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Feb 14, 2020 12:12 PM CSTShould Paternity Tests…be mandatory?
LeeCharming
LeeCharmingLeeCharmingCardiff, South Glamorgan, Wales, UK450 Threads 199 Polls 6,128 Posts

Should Paternity Tests…be mandatory?(Vote Below)

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Yes
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59%
No
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41%
Total Votes
27

Stats show...that 1 in 3 men...are not the biological father...of the children he pays for.
Vote and discuss
Feb 14, 2020 12:21 PM CST Should Paternity Tests…be mandatory?
I voted Yes,
Feb 14, 2020 12:25 PM CST Should Paternity Tests…be mandatory?
LeeCharming
LeeCharmingLeeCharmingCardiff, South Glamorgan, Wales UK450 Threads 199 Polls 6,128 Posts
How many poor men have...had to pay for children...that are their own and may never know the truththumbs down It's just another thing to add to the massive list...of bad behaviour of so many womenthumbs down Women could be so much better and it's so disappointing...to see...what kind of evil activities...women have been getting upto...do they have any love at all...in their hearts for men...or is it all about using a men...for money and treating men like crapsigh barf thumbs down
Feb 14, 2020 12:35 PM CST Should Paternity Tests…be mandatory?
ChesneyChristonline today!
ChesneyChristonline today!ChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,306 Posts
They should be standard considering the technology is there now. In a few years there’ll be an app that tells you who the real father is.
Feb 14, 2020 12:36 PM CST Should Paternity Tests…be mandatory?
An Irish comedian,Brendan Grace, explained the difference beyween faith & knowledge.


"The woman has knowledge & the man has faith"
Feb 14, 2020 12:43 PM CST Should Paternity Tests…be mandatory?
pKrema
pKremapKremaAt home, Shumen Bulgaria7 Threads 6,046 Posts
jimgi: An Irish comedian,Brendan Grace, explained the difference beyween faith & knowledge.


"The woman has knowledge & the man has faith"
It often happens when women lack knowledge...about who the father is... uh oh
Feb 14, 2020 12:46 PM CST Should Paternity Tests…be mandatory?
pKrema
pKremapKremaAt home, Shumen Bulgaria7 Threads 6,046 Posts
The money spent on someone else's kid is the least unfair thing in this case...
Feb 14, 2020 12:54 PM CST Should Paternity Tests…be mandatory?
LeeCharming
LeeCharmingLeeCharmingCardiff, South Glamorgan, Wales UK450 Threads 199 Polls 6,128 Posts
How many poor men have...had to pay for children...that are "not" their own and may never know the truth. It's just another thing to add to the massive list...of bad behaviour of so many women. Women could be so much better and it's so disappointing...to see...what kind of evil activities...women have been getting upto...do they have any love at all...in their hearts for men...or is it all about using a men...for money and treating men like crap

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Feb 14, 2020 12:55 PM CST Should Paternity Tests…be mandatory?
secretagent09
secretagent09secretagent09Jersey Girl In, North Carolina USA188 Threads 3 Polls 7,143 Posts
pKrema: The money spent on someone else's kid is the least unfair thing in this case...
It's not "unfair" if you are showing kindness to a child regardless of who the father is.

It is a child who had nothing to do with the decision of bringing him into the world.

If you dated a man who had children and he won the child in a custody case but he isn't sure that
it was his semen that made that child, would you stop dating that man until you knew for sure
that he is the biological father?
Feb 14, 2020 12:58 PM CST Should Paternity Tests…be mandatory?
LeeCharming
LeeCharmingLeeCharmingCardiff, South Glamorgan, Wales UK450 Threads 199 Polls 6,128 Posts
pKrema: It often happens when women lack knowledge...about who the father is...
a test would reveal the truthwow
Feb 14, 2020 1:01 PM CST Should Paternity Tests…be mandatory?
pKrema
pKremapKremaAt home, Shumen Bulgaria7 Threads 6,046 Posts
It's not "unfair" if you are showing kindness to a child regardless of who the father is.

It is a child who had nothing to do with the decision of bringing him into the world.

If you dated a man who had children and he won the child in a custody case but he isn't sure that
it was his semen that made that child, would you stop dating that man until you knew for sure
that he is the biological father?


What was meant in my post is that the man has the right to know if he is not the father and let to decide what to do, if he wants to be father of the child or not...
The father of my son actually was married to a woman who just had a baby and he adopted the child...
Feb 14, 2020 1:08 PM CST Should Paternity Tests…be mandatory?
secretagent09
secretagent09secretagent09Jersey Girl In, North Carolina USA188 Threads 3 Polls 7,143 Posts
pKrema:


What was meant in my post is that the man has the right to know if he is not the father and let to decide what to do, if he wants to be father of the child or not...
The father of my son actually was married to a woman who just had a baby and he adopted the child...
That might be what you meant but it's not what you said.

You made it straightforward by saying it's unfair to provide for a child
that isn't blood of the man you are seeing. (paraphrased)

I agree that a man has the right to know if his child is really his child.

However, in the meantime, legalities should be set aside when it comes
to the welfare of a child.

That's just my American opinion
Feb 14, 2020 1:15 PM CST Should Paternity Tests…be mandatory?
pKrema
pKremapKremaAt home, Shumen Bulgaria7 Threads 6,046 Posts
secretagent09: That might be what you meant but it's not what you said.

You made it straightforward by saying it's unfair to provide for a child
that isn't blood of the man you are seeing. (paraphrased)

I agree that a man has the right to know if his child is really his child.

However, in the meantime, legalities should be set aside when it comes
to the welfare of a child.

That's just my American opinion
Actually I said that paying for the child is the least unfair thing here, because man's trust has been betrayed and his freedom of choice has been walked over... when a man is made to believe it's his child when it's not...
I believe it was clear enough the way I said it...

And that's my opinion as a woman...
Feb 14, 2020 1:28 PM CST Should Paternity Tests…be mandatory?
secretagent09
secretagent09secretagent09Jersey Girl In, North Carolina USA188 Threads 3 Polls 7,143 Posts
pKrema: Actually I said that paying for the child is the least unfair thing here, because man's trust has been betrayed and his freedom of choice has been walked over... when a man is made to believe it's his child when it's not...
I believe it was clear enough the way I said it...

And that's my opinion as a woman...
Post #6 you said..... "The money spent on someone else's kid is the least unfair thing in this case..."

I think you are mixing apples with the oranges.
The thread title is about paternity, not about a man's trust in the woman he had a shag with

"freedom of choice" No, no no. He did have the freedom to make the choice/decision to bed down a woman. If he didn't take the responsibility to wear a condom then apparently trusting the woman wasn't a concern of his.

The man cannot truly believe that she is on birth control therefore he has to wear a condom. If he doesn't and a child is born he has no idea if that child is truly his. If he wants a relationship with that particular woman than a paternity test should be done.

The thread is about paternity tests but indirectly it is also about the child who is born from two people who didn't give a rat's azz about him/her when he was a fetus.

Different countries/continents put different values on children.

Some people value children more than legalities. handshake
Feb 14, 2020 1:29 PM CST Should Paternity Tests…be mandatory?
I would refuse: if my spouse doesn't trust me, he is free to go.
Feb 14, 2020 1:35 PM CST Should Paternity Tests…be mandatory?
LeeCharming
LeeCharmingLeeCharmingCardiff, South Glamorgan, Wales UK450 Threads 199 Polls 6,128 Posts
Tulefell: I would refuse: if my spouse doesn't trust me, he is free to go.
Refusing...would mean you have something to hide...but offering would be the best option and prove...how much you should or should not be trustedwow
Feb 14, 2020 1:36 PM CST Should Paternity Tests…be mandatory?
Tulefell: I would refuse: if my spouse doesn't trust me, he is free to go.
See, the point is , if its mandatory, it means its a obligatory by law and thats actually the core , if it would be a good or bad decreed
Feb 14, 2020 1:39 PM CST Should Paternity Tests…be mandatory?
pKrema
pKremapKremaAt home, Shumen Bulgaria7 Threads 6,046 Posts
secretagent09: Post #6 you said..... "The money spent on someone else's kid is the least unfair thing in this case..."

I think you are mixing apples with the oranges.
The thread title is about paternity, not about a man's trust in the woman he had a shag with

"freedom of choice" No, no no. He did have the freedom to make the choice/decision to bed down a woman. If he didn't take the responsibility to wear a condom then apparently trusting the woman wasn't a concern of his.

The man cannot truly believe that she is on birth control therefore he has to wear a condom. If he doesn't and a child is born he has no idea if that child is truly his. If he wants a relationship with that particular woman than a paternity test should be done.

The thread is about paternity tests but indirectly it is also about the child who is born from two people who didn't give a rat's azz about him/her when he was a fetus.

Different countries/continents put different values on children.

Some people value children more than legalities.
I think you just went too far on reading in your own way a simple sentence I posted...
Countries? Different values?
What on Earth are you talking about?
No oranges or apples under a pear tree...
Feb 14, 2020 1:43 PM CST Should Paternity Tests…be mandatory?
Dedovix: See, the point is , if its mandatory, it means its a obligatory by law and thats actually the core , if it would be a good or bad decreed
Stasi?
Feb 14, 2020 1:43 PM CST Should Paternity Tests…be mandatory?
Ocee102
Ocee102Ocee102unknown, Michigan USA9 Threads 2,088 Posts
Tulefell: I would refuse: if my spouse doesn't trust me, he is free to go.
Body autonomy gives you that right for as long the baby in in your body.

Once the baby is born you don't have the right to refuse, as nothing is being done to you.


The man you claim to be the father has the right by your claim that he is the father to take the baby to the doctor and have them tested.
Feb 14, 2020 1:47 PM CST Should Paternity Tests…be mandatory?
secretagent09
secretagent09secretagent09Jersey Girl In, North Carolina USA188 Threads 3 Polls 7,143 Posts
pKrema: I think you just went too far on reading in your own way a simple sentence I posted...
Countries? Different values?
What on Earth are you talking about?
No oranges or apples under a pear tree...
I didn't go "too far" in reading your first sentence. When someone writes an opinion I take it that it is their own personal opinion.

Your opinion is that it's unfair for a man to shell out money for a child that might not be his own.

I understand that but if you had continued your sentence with some sort of compassion for the child I would have respected your opinion.

I understand that is a little too deep for you.

Don't worry about it. The OP has the answer mumbling
Feb 14, 2020 1:50 PM CST Should Paternity Tests…be mandatory?
LeeCharming
LeeCharmingLeeCharmingCardiff, South Glamorgan, Wales UK450 Threads 199 Polls 6,128 Posts
secretagent09: I didn't go "too far" in reading your first sentence. When someone writes an opinion I take it that it is their own personal opinion.

Your opinion is that it's unfair for a man to shell out money for a child that might not be his own.

I understand that but if you had continued your sentence with some sort of compassion for the child I would have respected your opinion.

I understand that is a little too deep for you.

Don't worry about it. The OP has the answer
Maybe you can't accept...that another woman...won't agree with you and you think all women should agree by defaultroll eyes
Feb 14, 2020 1:51 PM CST Should Paternity Tests…be mandatory?
Tulefell: Stasi?
good point ,but we already have mandatory vaccination tho vaccines are not a cure - which means you are deliberate infecting a healthy human with some viruses to create immunity- killing natural immunity , based on assumptions -``you may catch a virus ``

Its mandatory to know the owner of a car or house during a transaction , its mandatory to have a bunch of numbers in your birth certificate - unique identification number -
long story short - some laws are good, some are bad- in this particular case -a mandatory Paternity Tests seems as step in the right direction
Feb 14, 2020 1:52 PM CST Should Paternity Tests…be mandatory?
pKrema
pKremapKremaAt home, Shumen Bulgaria7 Threads 6,046 Posts
secretagent09: I didn't go "too far" in reading your first sentence. When someone writes an opinion I take it that it is their own personal opinion.

Your opinion is that it's unfair for a man to shell out money for a child that might not be his own.

I understand that but if you had continued your sentence with some sort of compassion for the child I would have respected your opinion.

I understand that is a little too deep for you.

Don't worry about it. The OP has the answer
I said that spending money on a kid that's not his is the LEAST UNFAIR thing in this case...
Because there are obviously more important things ...
It's not about the child, it's about the right of a man to know if the child is his or not...
As I mother I would never lie about such thing and that's why this question doesn't stand in my way at all...
Jesus, I might not be perfect in English but, come on...
Feb 14, 2020 1:55 PM CST Should Paternity Tests…be mandatory?
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 1,972 Posts
Great idea!
Paternity test for all the men who walk out on their pregnant girlfriends/partners especially! Make them contribute to their children's upbringing!
applause

I can see a new wave of men being very careful who they 'shag' without protection! applause

Bring it on!
Feb 14, 2020 1:58 PM CST Should Paternity Tests…be mandatory?
LeeCharming
LeeCharmingLeeCharmingCardiff, South Glamorgan, Wales UK450 Threads 199 Polls 6,128 Posts
Selenite: Great idea!
Paternity test for all the men who walk out on their pregnant girlfriends/partners especially! Make them contribute to their children's upbringing!


I can see a new wave of men being very careful who they 'shag' without protection!

Bring it on!
Nope it's about stopping...women from paternity fraud...but someone like you is bound to twist it and try to put the blame on men...when women have to give consent for a child to be tested and if they refuse... man can't do a dam thingthumbs down
Feb 14, 2020 2:01 PM CST Should Paternity Tests…be mandatory?
Ocee102: Body autonomy gives you that right for as long the baby in in your body.

Once the baby is born you don't have the right to refuse, as nothing is being done to you.


The man you claim to be the father has the right by your claim that he is the father to take the baby to the doctor and have them tested.
I won't make any such claims.
Feb 14, 2020 2:09 PM CST Should Paternity Tests…be mandatory?
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 1,972 Posts
LeeCharming: Nope it's about stopping...women from paternity fraud...but someone like you is bound to twist it and try to put the blame on men...when women have to give consent for a child to be tested and if they refuse... man can't do a dam thing
It goes both ways Lee! If men can demand paternity tests so can women! The world doesn't exist just in your vision whether you like it or not....
I'm not twisting anything. I don't need to. What I describe is a fact.

It would be interesting to compare % of highest incidence. Men bringing children who aren't theird unbeknown to them OR men walking away from their responsibility once the mother of their child gets pregnant...
dunno
Feb 14, 2020 2:13 PM CST Should Paternity Tests…be mandatory?
Saorstat
SaorstatSaorstatLongford, Ireland6 Threads 513 Posts
As ever it seems the kids who loose?
Feb 14, 2020 2:18 PM CST Should Paternity Tests…be mandatory?
Palmfrond
PalmfrondPalmfrondEaston, Pennsylvania USA6 Threads 1 Polls 316 Posts
Lee, why do you post an issue that will never be of your concern?
Feb 14, 2020 2:27 PM CST Should Paternity Tests…be mandatory?
Ocee102
Ocee102Ocee102unknown, Michigan USA9 Threads 2,088 Posts
Selenite: It goes both ways Lee! If men can demand paternity tests so can women! The world doesn't exist just in your vision whether you like it or not....
I'm not twisting anything. I don't need to. What I describe is a fact.

It would be interesting to compare % of highest incidence. Men bringing children who aren't theird unbeknown to them OR men walking away from their responsibility once the mother of their child gets pregnant...
I'm not sure if it's a good thing or not, but a dna data base of sorts is already forming.

When people voluntarily do dna genealogy tests they're not just sharing their dna information, they are sharing large chunks of their extended family's dna information.

I've read about dna tested not being an exact mach for someone in the data base but being a familial match and an investigator being able to indentify the person from that.

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