Is the idea of cognitive mediation correct that things in the world don’t cause emotions? (49)
Whenever I read this kind of thing I’m compelled to give a reminder that there are multiple beliefs regarding intangible ideals. “One man’s garbage is another man’s gold”, “One can travel to Mecca by camel or donkey or foot”. 
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Simplify, simplify: let’s get real—I am at the casino. I win a sizable jackpot. My emotions are ECSTATIC!!
(event dictates emotion). But, if I LOSE—I’m bummed. 
(event dictates emotion)
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rohaan: Simplify, simplify: let’s get real—I am at the casino. I win a sizable jackpot. My emotions are ECSTATIC!! (event dictates emotion). But, if I LOSE—I’m bummed. (event dictates emotion)
So you don't cognitively process the information of winning, or losing?You just experience the ecstasy and...umm...bummasy...with no conscious knowledge of having won, or lost?
That's impressive, Ro.
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rohaan: Simplify, simplify: let’s get real—I am at the casino. I win a sizable jackpot. My emotions are ECSTATIC!! (event dictates emotion). But, if I LOSE—I’m bummed. (event dictates emotion)
In my experience, everything is relative!!! … including what causes emotions of ecstasy or sadness or upset!! My most humbling and grounding lesson was when my daughter "battled with metal illness" for about 8 years...
I had a choice of allowing each set back, each incident, each time she was in ICU, each time she nearly died to totally wreck me, and there were many many opportunities over an 8 year period... that's a lot of days!!! OR
I could feel gratitude every single day because she was alive and that meant she could get better … Fortunately for both of us, I was guided to feeling gratitude every single day... until the day came that she started healing and she's now more "together" than some people I know!!
I think how we react emotionally is relative to so many factors that we can't compare between people
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rohaan: Simplify, simplify: let’s get real—I am at the casino. I win a sizable jackpot. My emotions are ECSTATIC!! (event dictates emotion). But, if I LOSE—I’m bummed. (event dictates emotion)
So the stories you tell yourself you take seriously or Do you value other people’s opinions more? 
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galrads: So the stories you tell yourself you take seriously or Do you value other people’s opinions more?
Zajonc argued that affect and cognition are processed independently and that affect has temporal priority over even basic cognitive processes. ... We agree with Bower's conception, and we extend it to suggest that cognitive processes are necessary for the processing, elicitation, and experience of emotions.------ This poll is Archived ------
Zajonc supposedly also made great fried chicken... unlike Bob.
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Selenite: In my experience, everything is relative!!! … including what causes emotions of ecstasy or sadness or upset!!
My most humbling and grounding lesson was when my daughter "battled with metal illness" for about 8 years...
I had a choice of allowing each set back, each incident, each time she was in ICU, each time she nearly died to totally wreck me, and there were many many opportunities over an 8 year period... that's a lot of days!!! OR
I could feel gratitude every single day because she was alive and that meant she could get better … Fortunately for both of us, I was guided to feeling gratitude every single day... until the day came that she started healing and she's now more "together" than some people I know!!
I think how we react emotionally is relative to so many factors that we can't compare between people
So, if you are driving along one day minding your own business and then suddenly someone cuta you off with their car... are you more likely to experience fear (omg, I could have been killed) or do you experience anger... road rage ? I’d like to know but you dont have to answer of course if it is too personal.My most humbling and grounding lesson was when my daughter "battled with metal illness" for about 8 years...
I had a choice of allowing each set back, each incident, each time she was in ICU, each time she nearly died to totally wreck me, and there were many many opportunities over an 8 year period... that's a lot of days!!! OR
I could feel gratitude every single day because she was alive and that meant she could get better … Fortunately for both of us, I was guided to feeling gratitude every single day... until the day came that she started healing and she's now more "together" than some people I know!!
I think how we react emotionally is relative to so many factors that we can't compare between people
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tomcatty: Zajonc argued that affect and cognition are processed independently and that affect has temporal priority over even basic cognitive processes. ... We agree with Bower's conception, and we extend it to suggest that cognitive processes are necessary for the processing, elicitation, and experience of emotions.
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Not entirely sure what 'cognitive meditation' is, or what you mean by "correct that things in the world don't cause emotions."
But in recent years many studies have looked in depth at meditation to determine what, if any are the benefits. All these studies, without exception have concluded meditation can give many benefits, both in body and mind. The evidence is now conclusive, meditation, providing its part of a daily routine does really work for people of all ages.
This is part of just a few studies into meditation....
"Can Meditation Impact Age-Related Cognitive Decline?
Considering how meditation focuses on the mind, it’s surprising how little scientific research has been done on the impact of meditation on the mind. That’s changed in recent years. Two studies in recent years have reviewed important research literature on meditation and cognitive function.
The first, published in the Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences, involved researchers from Massachusetts, Germany and The Netherlands. They reviewed the findings of 12 studies that investigated the impact of a variety of meditation techniques on brain function. These studies found meditation had preliminary positive effects on attention, executive function, memory, processing speed and general cognition.
While the 12 studies had small sample sizes, they show the potential for using meditation to combat cognitive decline. “We conclude that meditation interventions for older adults are feasible, and preliminary evidence suggests that meditation can offset age-related cognitive decline,” the researchers wrote.
A second study from the University of California – Los Angeles focused on reviewing recent research on the impact of meditation on brain function and structure. It reported that in searching for the biological mechanisms behind the benefits people experience with mediation, research has found meditation has the potential to alter neurotransmitters, brain activity and cognitive abilities.
“These findings not only imply a close link between meditation and brain structure, but also suggest possible modulating effects of meditation on age-related brain atrophy,” the UCLA study reported.
Also, researchers at Harvard University in 2011 found that mindfulness meditation can change the structure of the brain. After just eight weeks of meditation, patients’ brains showed increased cortical thickness in the hippocampus, the area of the brain associated with memory and learning, according to Forbes. Interesting, the patients also had a decrease in brain cell volume in the amygdala, which is associated with processing feelings of fear and anxiety."
But in recent years many studies have looked in depth at meditation to determine what, if any are the benefits. All these studies, without exception have concluded meditation can give many benefits, both in body and mind. The evidence is now conclusive, meditation, providing its part of a daily routine does really work for people of all ages.
This is part of just a few studies into meditation....
"Can Meditation Impact Age-Related Cognitive Decline?
Considering how meditation focuses on the mind, it’s surprising how little scientific research has been done on the impact of meditation on the mind. That’s changed in recent years. Two studies in recent years have reviewed important research literature on meditation and cognitive function.
The first, published in the Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences, involved researchers from Massachusetts, Germany and The Netherlands. They reviewed the findings of 12 studies that investigated the impact of a variety of meditation techniques on brain function. These studies found meditation had preliminary positive effects on attention, executive function, memory, processing speed and general cognition.
While the 12 studies had small sample sizes, they show the potential for using meditation to combat cognitive decline. “We conclude that meditation interventions for older adults are feasible, and preliminary evidence suggests that meditation can offset age-related cognitive decline,” the researchers wrote.
A second study from the University of California – Los Angeles focused on reviewing recent research on the impact of meditation on brain function and structure. It reported that in searching for the biological mechanisms behind the benefits people experience with mediation, research has found meditation has the potential to alter neurotransmitters, brain activity and cognitive abilities.
“These findings not only imply a close link between meditation and brain structure, but also suggest possible modulating effects of meditation on age-related brain atrophy,” the UCLA study reported.
Also, researchers at Harvard University in 2011 found that mindfulness meditation can change the structure of the brain. After just eight weeks of meditation, patients’ brains showed increased cortical thickness in the hippocampus, the area of the brain associated with memory and learning, according to Forbes. Interesting, the patients also had a decrease in brain cell volume in the amygdala, which is associated with processing feelings of fear and anxiety."
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bodleing2: Not entirely sure what 'cognitive meditation' is, or what you mean by "correct that things in the world don't cause emotions."
But in recent years many studies have looked in depth at meditation to determine what, if any are the benefits. All these studies, without exception have concluded meditation can give many benefits, both in body and mind. The evidence is now conclusive, meditation, providing its part of a daily routine does really work for people of all ages.
This is part of just a few studies into meditation....
"Can Meditation Impact Age-Related Cognitive Decline?
Considering how meditation focuses on the mind, it’s surprising how little scientific research has been done on the impact of meditation on the mind. That’s changed in recent years. Two studies in recent years have reviewed important research literature on meditation and cognitive function.
The first, published in the Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences, involved researchers from Massachusetts, Germany and The Netherlands. They reviewed the findings of 12 studies that investigated the impact of a variety of meditation techniques on brain function. These studies found meditation had preliminary positive effects on attention, executive function, memory, processing speed and general cognition.
While the 12 studies had small sample sizes, they show the potential for using meditation to combat cognitive decline. “We conclude that meditation interventions for older adults are feasible, and preliminary evidence suggests that meditation can offset age-related cognitive decline,” the researchers wrote.
A second study from the University of California – Los Angeles focused on reviewing recent research on the impact of meditation on brain function and structure. It reported that in searching for the biological mechanisms behind the benefits people experience with mediation, research has found meditation has the potential to alter neurotransmitters, brain activity and cognitive abilities.
“These findings not only imply a close link between meditation and brain structure, but also suggest possible modulating effects of meditation on age-related brain atrophy,” the UCLA study reported.
Also, researchers at Harvard University in 2011 found that mindfulness meditation can change the structure of the brain. After just eight weeks of meditation, patients’ brains showed increased cortical thickness in the hippocampus, the area of the brain associated with memory and learning, according to Forbes. Interesting, the patients also had a decrease in brain cell volume in the amygdala, which is associated with processing feelings of fear and anxiety."
Bodleing2.... mediation not meditation But in recent years many studies have looked in depth at meditation to determine what, if any are the benefits. All these studies, without exception have concluded meditation can give many benefits, both in body and mind. The evidence is now conclusive, meditation, providing its part of a daily routine does really work for people of all ages.
This is part of just a few studies into meditation....
"Can Meditation Impact Age-Related Cognitive Decline?
Considering how meditation focuses on the mind, it’s surprising how little scientific research has been done on the impact of meditation on the mind. That’s changed in recent years. Two studies in recent years have reviewed important research literature on meditation and cognitive function.
The first, published in the Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences, involved researchers from Massachusetts, Germany and The Netherlands. They reviewed the findings of 12 studies that investigated the impact of a variety of meditation techniques on brain function. These studies found meditation had preliminary positive effects on attention, executive function, memory, processing speed and general cognition.
While the 12 studies had small sample sizes, they show the potential for using meditation to combat cognitive decline. “We conclude that meditation interventions for older adults are feasible, and preliminary evidence suggests that meditation can offset age-related cognitive decline,” the researchers wrote.
A second study from the University of California – Los Angeles focused on reviewing recent research on the impact of meditation on brain function and structure. It reported that in searching for the biological mechanisms behind the benefits people experience with mediation, research has found meditation has the potential to alter neurotransmitters, brain activity and cognitive abilities.
“These findings not only imply a close link between meditation and brain structure, but also suggest possible modulating effects of meditation on age-related brain atrophy,” the UCLA study reported.
Also, researchers at Harvard University in 2011 found that mindfulness meditation can change the structure of the brain. After just eight weeks of meditation, patients’ brains showed increased cortical thickness in the hippocampus, the area of the brain associated with memory and learning, according to Forbes. Interesting, the patients also had a decrease in brain cell volume in the amygdala, which is associated with processing feelings of fear and anxiety."
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galrads: Nice, now what is wrong with bob’s young chickens ?
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Ok oops, did you ever reach that time in life when you realise it's time to get some reading glasses.
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tomcatty: who's bob???
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galrads: So, if you are driving along one day minding your own business and then suddenly someone cuta you off with their car... are you more likely to experience fear (omg, I could have been killed) or do you experience anger... road rage ? I’d like to know but you dont have to answer of course if it is too personal.
Not fear... I didn't get killed...Not anger … more likely extreme surprise at the recklessness of some ...
Gratitude because nothing happened … I'm a fairly calm driver and it would take someone doing something that would take us to the very brink of a catastrophe to unhinge me … like saved by a millisecond … then it would be shock …
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bodleing2: Ok oops, did you ever reach that time in life when you realise it's time to get some reading glasses.
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The theory of CM concludes in short that the mind creates an automatic assessment of any given situation, whether simple or complex done within the subconscious... assisting every person to assess based on their own understanding of the situation or what it can mean. Emotions, arousal, bias thoughts, etc., usually are all involved and why the results are different for each person. In profiling for example you learn how to be neutral, take information in as fast as possible, and only consider important factors and unusual trivial ones by placing yourself in the subject's mind. The less trained you are the more susceptible you are at accepting information whether it's true or not and also depends on if you want to believe what you were shown or heard. If you hear a scream you immediately get a physiological response, it results in a physical reaction ( increase in heart rate ) and stress hormones are produced where you either run being afraid or helping also depending on personal character and values. In daily life, I think you do things more out of habit or preferences and not because of mediation unless it's a new event where some thought is needed or if the situation can be dangerous.
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galrads: Yep ... and cataracts forced the situation.
What's a carrotact? 
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bodleing2: Ok oops, did you ever reach that time in life when you realise it's time to get some reading glasses.
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galrads: Yep ... and cataracts forced the situation.
My sister in law had cataracts and she got them fixed. She got laser eye surgery on the NHS and said her vision went back to 20/20.------ This poll is Archived ------
bodleing2: What's a carrotact?
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galrads: Something bugs bunny does?
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jac_the_gripper: So you don't cognitively process the information of winning, or losing?
You just experience the ecstasy and...umm...bummasy...with no conscious knowledge of having won, or lost?
That's impressive, Ro.
You just experience the ecstasy and...umm...bummasy...with no conscious knowledge of having won, or lost?
That's impressive, Ro.
hey, I just can’t keep up with you jac.. you are deep ( to me, anyway). I’m a simple man, jac. I don’t go much beyond gardening and puttering around the house..
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galrads: So the stories you tell yourself you take seriously or Do you value other people’s opinions more?
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bodleing2: What's a carrotact?
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I'm very placid till you go out of your way to be vindictive for the thrill of it..Call it what you will.
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Mercedes_00: I'm very placid till you go out of your way to be vindictive for the thrill of it..Call it what you will.
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rohaan: hey, I just can’t keep up with you jac.. you are deep ( to me, anyway). I’m a simple man, jac. I don’t go much beyond gardening and puttering around the house..
It's not that deep, Ro.You have an understanding of winning, or losing, right? That's to do with your thoughts (cognition). You know if you win you get something, if you lose you forfeit something.
You start with perceiving your win, or loss: your eyes see the number on the dice, the picture and number on a card.
You then cognitively process the information you perceive: those shapes and colours your eyes perceives are translated into meaning, such as a rolled die falling so six dots face up, or a card reading the Jack of Diamonds.
You then process that information in it's context: You needed to throw a six to win, or a Jack means too many points and you've lost. This again is all to do with what you see and what you think.
The context of winning, or losing is also to do with your thoughts: if you win you can go on holiday, if you lose you can't pay your bills.
All those thoughts might be unconscious, sub-conscious, or conscious, but it doesn't matter. Whether you are aware of them, or not, you have to process the information - I've thrown the die, I need a six to win, the die has landed with six dots facing up, I have won, I get a lot more money back than I put in, I can go on holiday...
Yippy!
The emotion you feel is not as a direct result of winning, it's a result of your thought processes about winning. Your cognitions mediate between the event and the way you feel.
Now say you are a billionaire, life is one long holiday and you win $500k. The money is a drop in the ocean, you don't need it, but the act of winning is a pleasure in itself. Compare that with having six hungry kids, no job, no money, an eviction order and then winning $500k. While both scenarios involve winning $500k, the resulting emotions (mediated by cognitions) will likely be different. The billionaire is unlikely to whoop, cheer and break down in tears, the family man/woman is unlikely to only feel the pleasure of winning.
It's not the winning of $500K which produces the emotion, it's what you think about about winning the $500K that produces the emotion.
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mediation
your driving along and someone cuts you off
The way we react to any given event is conditioned what we impute good/bad/or indifference. I think motivation has direct a impact upon outcomes. Engaging in road rage is hardly likely to produce positive outcomes.
Our motivation shapes outcomes a bit like tomato seed grows a tomato plant not an apple tree, positive thoughts have positive outcomes.
I shared a link on my facebook timeline this morning e.g.
"True peace cannot be achieved by force or by merely envoking the world „peace“. It can only be attained by training the mind and learning to cultivate inner peace. Peace is a a calm and gentle state of mind."
(the 17th Karmapa)
your driving along and someone cuts you off
The way we react to any given event is conditioned what we impute good/bad/or indifference. I think motivation has direct a impact upon outcomes. Engaging in road rage is hardly likely to produce positive outcomes.
Our motivation shapes outcomes a bit like tomato seed grows a tomato plant not an apple tree, positive thoughts have positive outcomes.
I shared a link on my facebook timeline this morning e.g.
"True peace cannot be achieved by force or by merely envoking the world „peace“. It can only be attained by training the mind and learning to cultivate inner peace. Peace is a a calm and gentle state of mind."
(the 17th Karmapa)
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If the OP's headline grammatically made any sense, I would attempt an answer.
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