do you think...abortion is murder? (193)

Mar 28, 2022 5:21 PM CSTdo you think...abortion is murder?

do you think...abortion is murder?(Vote Below)

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a baby living and breathing inside a woman's womb...i consider to be a living beaning and how can abortion be anything but...the murder of an innocent human baby life? Vote nowwow
Mar 28, 2022 5:29 PM CST do you think...abortion is murder?
Circlip
CirclipCirclipNottingham, Nottinghamshire, England UK29 Threads 1,131 Posts
No, I don't.

Do I think abortion is any of your business. No, I don't.

Do I think you should be dabbling in matters that concern the rights of others, but not your own rights. Certainly not.
Mar 28, 2022 5:36 PM CST do you think...abortion is murder?
Circlip: No, I don't.

Do I think abortion is any of your business. No, I don't.

Do I think you should be dabbling in matters that concern the rights of others, but not your own rights. Certainly not.
i discuss what I want too...no amount of crying and complaining from you...will change thatpointing
Mar 28, 2022 5:44 PM CST do you think...abortion is murder?
Here's a question...what about the unborn babies rights? don't they matter? Don't they have a right to live a life? Good or bad? a living and breathing baby...should have rightssad flower
Mar 28, 2022 6:01 PM CST do you think...abortion is murder?
@ Lee.

What's a "beaning"? You "beaning" or being a man wouldn't even know the first thing regarding abortion. How could you? Have you ever been pregnant, carried or lost a baby? I think you're hitting below the belt on this subject Lee. Something that you know Nothing, Nada about. Are you trying to cause "Controversy"? Just so that you can sit back and watch people argue about it? I bet that if you made a woman pregnant, you would be the first one to run a bloody mile devil You can "Consider" all you want............
Mar 28, 2022 6:03 PM CST do you think...abortion is murder?
Circlip: No, I don't.

Do I think abortion is any of your business. No, I don't.

Do I think you should be dabbling in matters that concern the rights of others, but not your own rights. Certainly not.
He's just "Attention Seeking" and on a very sore subject. crying
Mar 28, 2022 6:05 PM CST do you think...abortion is murder?
Do you eat meat Lee?

Do you think that killing live already fully gestated born animals so that you can eat them is murder? dunno
Mar 28, 2022 6:14 PM CST do you think...abortion is murder?
Selenite: Do you eat meat Lee?

Do you think that killing live already fully gestated born animals so that you can eat them is murder?
are you saying aborted...human babies are being eatenconfused i heard their parts are being usedsad flower

are animals not breaded for food?
Unless you are a cannibal..how does your argument have any credibility confused
Mar 28, 2022 6:15 PM CST do you think...abortion is murder?
Miss_Cellaneous: He's just "Attention Seeking" and on a very sore subject.
what about the babies rightssad flower
Mar 28, 2022 6:21 PM CST do you think...abortion is murder?
LeeCharming: are you saying aborted...human babies are being eaten i heard their parts are being used

are animals not breaded for food?
Unless you are a cannibal..how does your argument have any credibility
You were talking about murder ... So was I ...

I think embryonic stem cells recovered from aborted babies are used to save sick people's lives ... don't think anybody eats them ...

Animals are sentient beings aware of their feelings and emotions. Being bread for food doesn't take away that fact. Many people consider killing animals for food murder.
Mar 28, 2022 6:34 PM CST do you think...abortion is murder?
A baby in a woman's womb is not breathing. The theological argument is that it is a potential human being and deserves protections as such. "Potential" is a very philosophical/religious term and doesn't belong in law.
I might agree that animals are sentient, but that only means that we should kill them painlessly not that we shouldn't eat meat.
Mar 28, 2022 6:35 PM CST do you think...abortion is murder?
Selenite: You were talking about murder ... So was I ...

I think embryonic stem cells recovered from aborted babies are used to save sick people's lives ... don't think anybody eats them ...

Animals are sentient beings aware of their feelings and emotions. Being bread for food doesn't take away that fact. Many people consider killing animals for food murder.
humans are supposed to have rights...but animals never really have had those rights and can't speak for themselves...you can't compare human rights with animal rights...cause you know you are losing that one hands downwow
Mar 28, 2022 6:41 PM CST do you think...abortion is murder?
LeeCharming: humans are supposed to have rights...but animals never really have had those rights and can't speak for themselves...you can't compare human rights with animal rights...cause you know you are losing that one hands down
Opinion and perception, a question of ...

You said it yourself, animals can't speak for themselves ...

Humans have rights. Yes they do. Would you say that all humans should have equal rights? Or do you think some humans have more right than others?
Mar 28, 2022 6:42 PM CST do you think...abortion is murder?
TTKSpectre: A baby in a woman's womb is not breathing. The theological argument is that it is a potential human being and deserves protections as such. "Potential" is a very philosophical/religious term and doesn't belong in law.
I might agree that animals are sentient, but that only means that we should kill them painlessly not that we shouldn't eat meat.
So what are you saying?
Mar 28, 2022 6:47 PM CST do you think...abortion is murder?
Selenite: Opinion and perception, a question of ...

You said it yourself, animals can't speak for themselves ...

Humans have rights. Yes they do. Would you say that all humans should have equal rights? Or do you think some humans have more right than others?
a every unborn babies right to live a life and an end to abortion...would make me smile and celebrate all the new born lifewow
Mar 28, 2022 6:52 PM CST do you think...abortion is murder?
LeeCharming: a every unborn babies right to live a life and an end to abortion...would make me smile and celebrate all the new born life
That wasn't what I asked ...

Another question ... Are you prepared to be a father to all the fatherless children who would be born from forced birth without adequate provision for the child? Because you can't "demand" something that you are not prepared to do something about to allow it to happen ...
Mar 28, 2022 6:54 PM CST do you think...abortion is murder?
Yes, abortion is murder, sin and crime, adult must must have to think about it before having a baby
Mar 28, 2022 6:54 PM CST do you think...abortion is murder?
Post-birth abortions imho are definitely murders.
Mar 28, 2022 6:59 PM CST do you think...abortion is murder?
ali110: Yes, abortion is murder, sin and crime, adult must must have to think about it before having a baby
What's the ratio of girls to boys born in your country Ali?
Mar 28, 2022 7:00 PM CST do you think...abortion is murder?
Selenite: That wasn't what I asked ...

Another question ... Are you prepared to be a father to all the fatherless children who would be born from forced birth without adequate provision for the child? Because you can't "demand" something that you are not prepared to do something about to allow it to happen ...
it's not my sperm impregnating women...so why would i play the father to children....who are not mine?
It all starts with practicing safe sex and planning to have a child when the time is right{family planning}...that's where education needs to be implemented mostly...but you must also remember many couples are looking to adopt...cause they can't have children of their own....so plenty of reason...for a unborn to be allowed to live a lifewow
Mar 28, 2022 7:01 PM CST do you think...abortion is murder?
ali110: Yes, abortion is murder, sin and crime, adult must must have to think about it before having a baby
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Mar 28, 2022 7:06 PM CST do you think...abortion is murder?
galrads: Post-birth abortions imho are definitely murders.
Would you adopt and bring up the baby after he/she was saved from post-birth abortion irrespective of his/her medical conditions and life expectancy? If that life you want to save is so important to you, are you prepared to do something about it to support their life? dunno
Mar 28, 2022 7:14 PM CST do you think...abortion is murder?
LeeCharming: it's not my sperm impregnating women...so why would i play the father to children....who are not mine?
It all starts with practicing safe sex and planning to have a child when the time is right{family planning}...that's where education needs to be implemented mostly...but you must also remember many couples are looking to adopt...cause they can't have children of their own....so plenty of reason...for a unborn to be allowed to live a life
In an ideal world it would be as you describe. Obviously the world is not ideal or the question would not arise.

What gives you the right to judge women who find themselves on the outside of your ideal world, (without a partner like you who would plan the birth of his child with his partner)?
Practising safe sex is a 2 persons job and no, the women should not be the only one responsible when something goes wrong. And so judging and forcing women to have babies, and for babies to be born under those conditions is hardly an act of love.

There will still always be children for adoption ...
Mar 28, 2022 7:20 PM CST do you think...abortion is murder?
Selenite: Would you adopt and bring up the baby after he/she was saved from post-birth abortion irrespective of his/her medical conditions and life expectancy? If that life you want to save is so important to you, are you prepared to do something about it to support their life?
What i decide to do or not do has no bearing on whether someone is murdered at any victim's age.
Mar 28, 2022 7:32 PM CST do you think...abortion is murder?
LeeCharming: what about the babies rights
What about them? dunno You tell me, seeing that you're so educated on this subject. What would you do Lee, if you had a one night stand and the woman became pregnant? If the women could transfer that baby into you and you had to carry it for 9 months, then give birth and then had to bring it up? What rights would the babies rights be then? I'm awaiting your "Intellectual, Intelligent" answer laugh
Mar 28, 2022 8:10 PM CST do you think...abortion is murder?
Selenite: In an ideal world it would be as you describe. Obviously the world is not ideal or the question would not arise.

What gives you the right to judge women who find themselves on the outside of your ideal world, (without a partner like you who would plan the birth of his child with his partner)?
Practising safe sex is a 2 persons job and no, the women should not be the only one responsible when something goes wrong. And so judging and forcing women to have babies, and for babies to be born under those conditions is hardly an act of love.

There will still always be children for adoption ...
There's no use trying to argue with men re abortion. They aren't women and they shouldn't even have a "say" regarding what women can do, full stop. Put the "ball" in "their" Court. Until Men can have babies, then shut the f*ck up. You don't know what the hell your'e talking about. End of..........How many female babies are "Murdered" when they have been born in other Countries? Because they just want males? Not an abortion, The murder of a female baby because it wasn't a Male crying
Mar 28, 2022 8:13 PM CST do you think...abortion is murder?
galrads: What i decide to do or not do has no bearing on whether someone is murdered at any victim's age.
Female babies are still "Murdered" in certain Asian Countries because they want Male Heirs. Don't you think that that's "Barbaric"? crying
Mar 28, 2022 8:47 PM CST do you think...abortion is murder?
Miss_Cellaneous: Female babies are still "Murdered" in certain Asian Countries because they want Male Heirs. Don't you think that that's "Barbaric"?
Yes, i do think thats barbaric. I would be surprised, no horrified if any thought differently. Why do you ask me?

I also think femicide and the increasing incidents of femicide happening around the world is insane too. Don't you think that is also Barbaric?
Mar 28, 2022 11:40 PM CST do you think...abortion is murder?
rohaan
rohaanrohaanCoos Bay, Oregon USA253 Threads 14,477 Posts
Selenite: In an ideal world it would be as you describe. Obviously the world is not ideal or the question would not arise.

What gives you the right to judge women who find themselves on the outside of your ideal world, (without a partner like you who would plan the birth of his child with his partner)?
Practising safe sex is a 2 persons job and no, the women should not be the only one responsible when something goes wrong. And so judging and forcing women to have babies, and for babies to be born under those conditions is hardly an act of love.

There will still always be children for adoption ...
I’ve never been on the fence about how I, personally, feel about this issue. However, I am adamantly against legislation preventing it. I believe there’s a great deal of merit in “timing”. (If you’re going to do it, get on with it. Within a few days…) Here’s something I’ve said before, and I want people to really understand the validity of it: Men don’t get pregnant. It is therefore exponentially inappropriate for a man, or, collectively, men, to get to decide for a woman what they will never have to consider themselves. That alone should be enough to stop the legislation, which is primarily orchestrated by men. ( It has been quoted that if men got pregnant, there would be no opposition to abortion. I fully, unequivocally believe this.) If thumpers want to impose their convictions on others, then what are we doing here (America) in the first place? And, last but not least, the fact that a woman is even pregnant is a medical privacy issue. It’s nobody’s business.
Mar 29, 2022 1:01 AM CST do you think...abortion is murder?
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Ivoryguyonline today!IvoryguyCape Town, Western Cape South Africa1 Threads 308 Posts
TTKSpectre: A baby in a woman's womb is not breathing. The theological argument is that it is a potential human being and deserves protections as such. "Potential" is a very philosophical/religious term and doesn't belong in law.
I might agree that animals are sentient, but that only means that we should kill them painlessly not that we shouldn't eat meat.
Although the baby in a woman's womb is not breathing the heartbeat can be detected from about 6 weeks and the baby can survive from about 24 weeks, at which point I think that abortion should no longer be an option.

The philosophical/religious argument should not be a consideration because, if a believer interprets the bible literally, as they do with Leviticus 20:13, then the bible is very clear that life begins at birth and that a foetus has no value.

I agree that animals are sentient but it's hard to explain that to an antelope as a lion takes it down. That's nature and 60 000 years of cave paintings all show hunting scenes but no salad scenes; humans were meant to be meat eaters. I believe in humane slaughter, as far as possible, and disagree with the added level of cruelty caused by halal/kosher slaughter.
Mar 29, 2022 1:23 AM CST do you think...abortion is murder?
Some would say my body my choice and i partially agree
but...
the same ``some`` will not recognise mandatory vaccines-or raping our mind with 5G waves ,falce science ,chemtrails ,genetically modified fruits ,vegetables ...soon we`ll have beef made in labs as my body my choice
Do we really have a choice on the grand scale??? Is our mind capable to make decision based on sound logic and experience or are we once again being programed???

Yes abortion is murder

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