Should everyone trade in their internal combustion engines for All Electric Vehicles? (24)

Jun 28, 2022 11:04 AM CSTShould everyone trade in their internal combustion engines for All Electric Vehicles?

Should everyone trade in their internal combustion engines for All Electric Vehicles?(Vote Below)

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Yes, who cares if we blow up our electric grids doing so
16%
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No, save the planet and its natural resources instead
32%
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Other
53%
10 Votes
19 Total Votes
Anyways imho our habitat on planet earth is not at risk by climate change.


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Jun 28, 2022 11:30 AM CST Should everyone trade in their internal combustion engines for All Electric Vehicles?
Draegoneer
DraegoneerDraegoneerPrudenville, Michigan USA1 Threads 1,790 Posts
i think it's been noted that our reliable energy sources are being choked and killed to push all of these other unstable and less reliable sources.

i fail to see how more time wasted, highly toxic, and less than efficient, energy sources are saving the planet. all that "stuff" will still have to be replaced and disposed of at some point sooner or later. it will take at least twice as much to come close to the energy we can have now and still won't be as reliable.

if they can ever get anything right in their "models", one degree or so sure as hell isn't worth what they're pushing now.
Jun 28, 2022 11:41 AM CST Should everyone trade in their internal combustion engines for All Electric Vehicles?
Draegoneer: i think it's been noted that our reliable energy sources are being choked and killed to push all of these other unstable and less reliable sources.

i fail to see how more time wasted, highly toxic, and less than efficient, energy sources are saving the planet. all that "stuff" will still have to be replaced and disposed of at some point sooner or later. it will take at least twice as much to come close to the energy we can have now and still won't be as reliable.

if they can ever get anything right in their "models", one degree or so sure as hell isn't worth what they're pushing now.
Disregarding a 24 inch radiation thermometer which can measure temperature to the thousands of a degree centigrade, today a laboratory NIST Traceable® thermometer may state the range as -50ºC to +70 ºC and will have an accuracy of ± 1 ºC.

Now, the point here is that this plus or minus 1 degree C accuracy was not possible before when a lot of the comparison temperature data was collected and used to predict global warming.
Jun 28, 2022 12:11 PM CST Should everyone trade in their internal combustion engines for All Electric Vehicles?
where will you get all those rare Earth metals and other Strategic Materials from to build them?rolling on the floor laughing
Jun 28, 2022 12:21 PM CST Should everyone trade in their internal combustion engines for All Electric Vehicles?
Conrad73: where will you get all those rare Earth metals and other Strategic Materials from to build them?
And where do you get all the el from. I'll tell you: from gas/oil/coal.
Jun 28, 2022 12:23 PM CST Should everyone trade in their internal combustion engines for All Electric Vehicles?
IF they did the sensible thing and established
plenty of new nuclear reactors all over town to go with it
then I'd thumb it up.
Jun 28, 2022 12:24 PM CST Should everyone trade in their internal combustion engines for All Electric Vehicles?
Jun 28, 2022 12:40 PM CST Should everyone trade in their internal combustion engines for All Electric Vehicles?
buying all electric cars is a hypocritic way of thinking ppl are helping the planet. the electric car has alot more wiring. alot more batteries and cause more damage if they catch fire or a battery is busted open.
Jun 28, 2022 12:46 PM CST Should everyone trade in their internal combustion engines for All Electric Vehicles?
lonelytiger68: buying all electric cars is a hypocritic way of thinking ppl are helping the planet. the electric car has alot more wiring. alot more batteries and cause more damage if they catch fire or a battery is busted open.
Right, and the battery can only hold x number of cycles..... like a cellphone batts it will have to be retired long before the vihecle. Recycle the battery will be vital then especeially considering Conrads argument. How far has the recycle business come? Any takers on that?

I can tell you folk, here in Norwegica we are a "rolling" lab for this. Half all cars here sold new are electrical.
Cos we have water power hydra -
Time will show but maaan in a country like Germany that already depend on Russian gas.... forgetaboutit...
Jun 28, 2022 1:32 PM CST Should everyone trade in their internal combustion engines for All Electric Vehicles?
bodleing2online today!
bodleing2online today!bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK81 Threads 6,704 Posts
Try pulling a trailer or caravan with an electric car and see what that does to the distance you can travel on one charge. Caravaning is very popular in the uk but people with caravans are beginning to wish they had never bought an electric car, a caravan, or both. To make matters worse there are virtually no charging points that allow space for a car hooked up to a caravan.
Some things are just not properly thought through it seems.

I'm sticking with my ebike though...yay
Jun 28, 2022 1:37 PM CST Should everyone trade in their internal combustion engines for All Electric Vehicles?
You may have to unhook it yea.

Capacity is getting better, provided you have a fat wallet.
Jun 28, 2022 1:39 PM CST Should everyone trade in their internal combustion engines for All Electric Vehicles?
lonelytiger68: buying all electric cars is a hypocritic way of thinking ppl are helping the planet. the electric car has alot more wiring. alot more batteries and cause more damage if they catch fire or a battery is busted open.
Spontaneous combustion is common for some EVs left rotting in the sun in some boneyard. Responders have dug holes and filled them with water and then dragged the burning e vehicles into them.
Jun 28, 2022 1:49 PM CST Should everyone trade in their internal combustion engines for All Electric Vehicles?
bodleing2online today!
bodleing2online today!bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK81 Threads 6,704 Posts
Grandsiozzie: You may have to unhook it yea.

Capacity is getting better, provided you have a fat wallet.
Most m/way services have a one way charging road layout. The only way you could unhook and legally return to collect the caravan would be to leave the services, drive to the next exit, then back along the m/way in the opposite direction to the next junction then drive back to the services. By which time you will have used up precious energy that you will need to tow your caravan to the next services for a repeat performance.laugh
Jun 28, 2022 2:33 PM CST Should everyone trade in their internal combustion engines for All Electric Vehicles?
bodleing2: Most m/way services have a one way charging road layout. The only way you could unhook and legally return to collect the caravan would be to leave the services, drive to the next exit, then back along the m/way in the opposite direction to the next junction then drive back to the services. By which time you will have used up precious energy that you will need to tow your caravan to the next services for a repeat performance.
I am curious, has the UK gone total Electric rail or is it still Diesel Electric rail in some places.
Jun 28, 2022 2:48 PM CST Should everyone trade in their internal combustion engines for All Electric Vehicles?
bodleing2online today!
bodleing2online today!bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK81 Threads 6,704 Posts
galrads: I am curious, has the UK gone total Electric rail or is it still Diesel Electric rail in some places.
In some areas almost all rail traffic is electric.

"By 2020, 54% of the network will be electrified with electric trains accounting for 75% of all rail traffic."
Jun 28, 2022 2:49 PM CST Should everyone trade in their internal combustion engines for All Electric Vehicles?
Of course. Just run out and buy that new car for 50-60K. And pay that electric bill. The Tesla is really money saving cause you can use it as a grill too. Plus give firefighters practice putting out a fire that keeps re-igniting, even 24 hours later. Gives work too to third world folks who can enjoy the heat digging out the minerals. And make China richer since they just happen to have most of what electric cars use.
No worries about the grid. hmmm...tho...Hoover Dam may cease to generate due to Lake Mead drying up. But, hey..those firefighters only use 800,000 gallons of water to put out those electric car fires. And oops..shouldnt have parked in the garage. Or near that house.
Jun 28, 2022 2:56 PM CST Should everyone trade in their internal combustion engines for All Electric Vehicles?
Marmalade55
Marmalade55Marmalade55Rothercastersly, South Yorkshire, England UK5 Threads 206 Posts
Grandsiozzie: IF they did the sensible thing and established
plenty of new nuclear reactors all over town to go with it
then I'd thumb it up.
How come you know what the sensible thing is, and they don't? I'm not sure you are someone I would go to for the "sensible thing". drinking
Jun 29, 2022 5:31 AM CST Should everyone trade in their internal combustion engines for All Electric Vehicles?
ChesneyChristonline today!
ChesneyChristonline today!ChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK11,196 Posts
Not yet there's isn't enough nuclear and renewables or enough energy storage. It's definitely the future but it is not the immediate future. A lot of it makes more sense for living in space and think of all that was wasted in energy efficient light bulbs before the led came along just obviously better. The timing is everything
Jun 29, 2022 5:32 AM CST Should everyone trade in their internal combustion engines for All Electric Vehicles?
ChesneyChristonline today!
ChesneyChristonline today!ChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK11,196 Posts
ChesneyChrist: Not yet there's isn't enough nuclear and renewables or enough energy storage. It's definitely the future but it is not the immediate future. A lot of it makes more sense for living in space and think of all that was wasted in energy efficient light bulbs before the led came along just obviously better. The timing is everything
And I say came along, I mean became affordable. We have to give these things time
Jun 30, 2022 4:14 PM CST Should everyone trade in their internal combustion engines for All Electric Vehicles?
According to the EVangelists, Magic Unicorns will provide all the power we need to charge those vehicles. No word as to whether or not the electric grid can take the added load however. Maybe they forgot to mention we'll each have our own Magic Unicorn which will live on the excess CO2 in the atmosphere and excrete oxygen to save the planet. No word on who will pay to install the charger, wiring, etc. either. But I'm sure they'll be a plan involving "free stuff" any day now.
Jun 30, 2022 4:24 PM CST Should everyone trade in their internal combustion engines for All Electric Vehicles?
funtocome: According to the EVangelists, Magic Unicorns will provide all the power we need to charge those vehicles. No word as to whether or not the electric grid can take the added load however. Maybe they forgot to mention we'll each have our own Magic Unicorn which will live on the excess CO2 in the atmosphere and excrete oxygen to save the planet. No word on who will pay to install the charger, wiring, etc. either. But I'm sure they'll be a plan involving "free stuff" any day now.
I am a tree hugger. The world should be planting more trees as well as going with alternative energy sources in good time. The sky is not falling like fear-monger climate change theorists.

Trees generate oxygen, prevent erasion and provide homes for animals and insects. You can count on trees for the air you breathe.

Jun 30, 2022 4:30 PM CST Should everyone trade in their internal combustion engines for All Electric Vehicles?
Conrad73: where will you get all those rare Earth metals and other Strategic Materials from to build them?
Ukraine has a lot of untapped sources funny enough .
Jun 30, 2022 4:32 PM CST Should everyone trade in their internal combustion engines for All Electric Vehicles?
funtocome: According to the EVangelists, Magic Unicorns will provide all the power we need to charge those vehicles. No word as to whether or not the electric grid can take the added load however. Maybe they forgot to mention we'll each have our own Magic Unicorn which will live on the excess CO2 in the atmosphere and excrete oxygen to save the planet. No word on who will pay to install the charger, wiring, etc. either. But I'm sure they'll be a plan involving "free stuff" any day now.
Trees are climate control!

Jun 30, 2022 4:35 PM CST Should everyone trade in their internal combustion engines for All Electric Vehicles?
Deforestation sucks. We need more passive protestors to save the trees.

Jun 30, 2022 4:47 PM CST Should everyone trade in their internal combustion engines for All Electric Vehicles?
Hug a tree today!

I rest my case here on climate control... if a tree

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