School subjects ( Archived) (27)

Jul 29, 2022 4:49 AM CSTSchool subjects
suziecute
suziecutesuziecuteSalobreña, Andalusia, Spain4 Threads 4 Polls 40 Posts

School subjects(Vote Below)

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languages
9%
2 Votes
sciences
9%
2 Votes
Math subjects (algebra, geometry, accounting, trig, etc)
32%
7 Votes
study subjects (history of the world, of art, of music, etc)
14%
3 Votes
PE or heath
0%
0 Votes
Useful (working on a car, DIY, cooking)
5%
1 Votes
Social studies
5%
1 Votes
Other
27%
6 Votes
22 Total Votes
If you had to go back in time and do high school again - what subjects were the biggest waste of time, and what would you choose now (or again)

A 13 year old relative has to plot out the rest of her life in the next week. No pressure. roll eyes I know I would choose languages this time round, even though I hated the year I did in French and was rubbish. I should have chosen a foreign language and stuck with it, so that was my advice. Interested in yours.
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Jul 29, 2022 1:58 PM CST School subjects
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
I grew up in France and back then everyone had to study every subject like maths, science, geography, history, art, PE/athletics/sports, French language and grammar and literature, as well as at least 2 foreign languages, music, and technology. I went on to study Travel and Tourism for which the programme was almost identical apart from the fact maths was replaced by accountcy, technology was replaced by ticketing and other travelling agency running essentials. Art was replaced by 'history of the arts and architecture' and we also studied the impacy of tourism on the economy. Was a 3 year programme for about 7 to 8 hours a day! wow After which I attended Uni specialising in languages.

I would do the same again. I had such a backgound on so many subjects that no matter what I did later some knowledge I had picked up during those years would come in useful.

I later trained to be a teacher and later as an artist ...

I don't begrudge any of my 'learning' and even music which I found boring when we were learning solfeggio has come in handy to read the music sheets when I joined a choir in the last few years cool
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Jul 29, 2022 3:50 PM CST School subjects
I did maths chemistry and physics a-levels. Loved them allwine
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Jul 29, 2022 5:25 PM CST School subjects
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Recess and juggling
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Jul 29, 2022 8:33 PM CST School subjects
I excelled in selling cigarettes to everyone recess and lunch time. A lot of kids went hungry because of me conversing
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Jul 29, 2022 8:56 PM CST School subjects
Iyyov
IyyovIyyovPwetty Blue Planet, Washington USA3 Threads 253 Posts
Mostly it depends on where her skills lie, and what her interests are. Below are what I would consider a minimum for a generic Bachelor of Arts degree:

languages: I place heavy emphasis on this. Spanish, French, Italian, etc, are all good choices.

sciences: Again, without an understanding of science, she'll be clueless about most of the world. Here are the (minimum) basics that I advise: Chemistry, Physics, Electrical Theory, or Introductory Electronics Tech course.

Math subjects: Minimum is differential and Integral Calculus. If she wishes to be in Science/Engineering, then Differential Equations is the minimum.

study subjects (history of the world, of art, of music, etc): electives, can be useful
PE or heath: if she has any health issues, but this can be done independently
Useful (working on a car, DIY, cooking): One must know how an automobile works, but it is fairly simple, her father could teach her, or any adult that knows
Social studies: People emphasis this. I don't. If it is required by the college, then yes, or if she wishes to go into politics.....

Other: Computer science is absolutely essential nowadays, including keyboarding/typing skills. I touch-type, and I learned it in High-school, on a mechanical typewriter. There hasn't been a year, since I left High-School, that I didn't use a keyboard. Now it is daily, six days a week.

Hope this helps.

Shalom,
Iyyov
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Jul 30, 2022 1:58 AM CST School subjects
Tanzila
TanzilaTanzilaCity Of Joy, West Bengal India77 Threads 47 Polls 554 Posts
Though I'm not the ideal person to answer this question as a student , in my study days I used to ran away from studies always .. giggle

It's not because I don't like the subjects , but because I don't like the method or system of the schooling here ..

Anyway.. Coming to the point ..

I think the best option would be choosing the subjects which the student likes to study ..
It would be best if those subjects are practically useful in todays ground reality ..

But if such subject can not be found particularly , then I guess the next best option would be to pick a combination of subjects both from point of personal interest and utilisation in practical life ..

I wish the kid Best Of Luck .. thumbs up
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Jul 30, 2022 4:53 AM CST School subjects
suziecute
suziecutesuziecuteSalobreña, Andalusia Spain4 Threads 4 Polls 40 Posts
Selenite:

I don't begrudge any of my 'learning' and even music which I found boring when we were learning solfeggio has come in handy to read the music sheets when I joined a choir in the last few years
WOW! Good school!
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Jul 30, 2022 4:54 AM CST School subjects
suziecute
suziecutesuziecuteSalobreña, Andalusia Spain4 Threads 4 Polls 40 Posts
Coldheaven: I did maths chemistry and physics a-levels. Loved them all
She has to choose 6 in all and I don't think has your scientific mind, impressive haha
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Jul 30, 2022 4:54 AM CST School subjects
suziecute
suziecutesuziecuteSalobreña, Andalusia Spain4 Threads 4 Polls 40 Posts
Track16: I excelled in selling cigarettes to everyone recess and lunch time. A lot of kids went hungry because of me
You bad man laugh scold
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Jul 30, 2022 4:55 AM CST School subjects
suziecute
suziecutesuziecuteSalobreña, Andalusia Spain4 Threads 4 Polls 40 Posts
A well-thought-out answer and much appreciated handshake bouquet
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Jul 30, 2022 4:57 AM CST School subjects
suziecute
suziecutesuziecuteSalobreña, Andalusia Spain4 Threads 4 Polls 40 Posts
Iyyov: Mostly it depends on where her skills lie, and what her interests are. Below are what I would consider a minimum for a generic Bachelor of Arts degree:

Hope this helps.

Shalom,
Iyyov
Whoops above comment directed at you and thank you
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Jul 30, 2022 4:58 AM CST School subjects
suziecute
suziecutesuziecuteSalobreña, Andalusia Spain4 Threads 4 Polls 40 Posts
Tanzila:
But if such subject can not be found particularly , then I guess the next best option would be to pick a combination of subjects both from point of personal interest and utilisation in practical life ..

I wish the kid Best Of Luck ..
Not easy, haha, but thank you
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Jul 30, 2022 11:45 AM CST School subjects
Ten_of_cupss
Ten_of_cupssTen_of_cupssShumen, Bulgaria2 Threads 1,375 Posts
In our educational system students can not choose subjects.
They study everything from start to finish, which from 1st to 12 grade.
Chemistry, Maths, Biology, History, Languages, Psychology, Geography, Sports, IT, DIY and few others. That's from 1st grade to end of High school.
They can choose the type of school though, after 7th grade.
Like, Language high school, or High school of economics...Math and so on.
But they still study all subjects along with the extra hours of the main ones.
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Aug 5, 2022 5:48 PM CST School subjects
To help her with what she needs to take you'd need to determine what she wants to be.
I think that was about the age I told my daughter that if she didn't have a preference she was going to be a programmer because that was the thing I was most up on at the time. She decided she wanted to be a doctor, and did graduate from medical school. Then married one instead of becoming one.
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Sep 8, 2022 4:36 AM CST School subjects
8Dreamsonline today!
8Dreamsonline today!8DreamsNienburg/Weser, Lower Saxony Germany3 Threads 1 Polls 43 Posts
Philosophyprofessor
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Sep 8, 2022 5:33 AM CST School subjects
I studied. To become a brain surgeon. On woman's brains. After four years. Of seeing sheet. I became a road sweeper instead. grin grin grin. wave
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Sep 8, 2022 6:04 AM CST School subjects
BigJobby
BigJobbyBigJobbyHarlow, Essex, England UK98 Posts
I neffer wont too skool
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Sep 8, 2022 6:14 AM CST School subjects
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
I think there's a few on here who must have studied drama....conversing
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Sep 8, 2022 6:23 AM CST School subjects
Mesange1
Mesange1Mesange1Ici, Nouvelle-Aquitaine France1 Threads 447 Posts
Hey, naughty you ! I bet you were used ot be in the back of the classroom near the radiator or the furnace in winter laugh lips
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Sep 8, 2022 6:50 AM CST School subjects
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
I think the subjects that have always been lacking in the world are love in all of it's forms (unconditional included), communication and good stewardship of the earth. These things are sadly missing from the qualities of the human experience and even worse are largely missing in families. The majority of 'school' subjects are grossly overrated in comparison to what little, humans know about love, kindness, sharing.

I have always been curious why the powers that be do not teach this, much less parents with their own offspring.
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Sep 8, 2022 7:28 AM CST School subjects
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
BB_snickers: I think the subjects that have always been lacking in the world are love in all of it's forms (unconditional included), communication and good stewardship of the earth. These things are sadly missing from the qualities of the human experience and even worse are largely missing in families. The majority of 'school' subjects are grossly overrated in comparison to what little, humans know about love, kindness, sharing.

I have always been curious why the powers that be do not teach this, much less parents with their own offspring.
It most probably has something to do with the capitalist idea that the greater good is served by self-interest because selfishness is a much harder worker than benevolence - which in most people it is. Capitalism will always come up with the goods where benevolence tries to feed people with good intentions at best and virtue signalling at worst. The problem for benevolence will be if you can't do, teach, and it'll just be words lots and lots of sermons without any improvement to the general welfare. However, the problem with capitalism is that it only works as a system of checks and balances, only works when all the selfish people are relatively equal in power and therefore can only win by being the best. It fails where any one is in a position where you can't lose because that means you win without being the best.
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Sep 8, 2022 7:44 AM CST School subjects
OddTraveller
OddTravellerOddTravellerMontgomery, Alabama USA19 Threads 200 Posts
Probably the most useful course I ever took over the course of my lifetime was typing.
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Sep 8, 2022 7:51 AM CST School subjects
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
ChesneyChrist: It most probably has something to do with the capitalist idea that the greater good is served by self-interest because selfishness is a much harder worker than benevolence - which in most people it is. Capitalism will always come up with the goods where benevolence tries to feed people with good intentions at best and virtue signalling at worst. The problem for benevolence will be if you can't do, teach, and it'll just be words lots and lots of sermons without any improvement to the general welfare. However, the problem with capitalism is that it only works as a system of checks and balances, only works when all the selfish people are relatively equal in power and therefore can only win by being the best. It fails where any one is in a position where you can't lose because that means you win without being the best.
And also the materialism. Making it on merit has much to do with material things - I don't really like that baker but I do like his bread. It requires some objective standard like the best bread rather than who you like or dislike. Now is benevolence going to treat people equally like that? Not normally, no. Often it will decide that certain types are entitled to more help than others. The closest we actually come to equality is the sense of fair play - I don't like him but he's right, his bread is better.
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Sep 8, 2022 8:00 AM CST School subjects
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
ChesneyChrist: It most probably has something to do with the capitalist idea that the greater good is served by self-interest because selfishness is a much harder worker than benevolence - which in most people it is. Capitalism will always come up with the goods where benevolence tries to feed people with good intentions at best and virtue signalling at worst. The problem for benevolence will be if you can't do, teach, and it'll just be words lots and lots of sermons without any improvement to the general welfare. However, the problem with capitalism is that it only works as a system of checks and balances, only works when all the selfish people are relatively equal in power and therefore can only win by being the best. It fails where any one is in a position where you can't lose because that means you win without being the best.
I think that love would be the most useful balance, yet, despite it's dire need it is ignored as a solution, where self righteousness is indeed, idolized.

It is most assuredly power driven by power brokers and then the 'love' subjects are handed off to the 'church' as it were, where fear and selfishness are given full reign to condemn and marginalize the less deserving of mankind so the silver spoon inheritance is maintained within the group.

I think the very idea of competitiveness ruins any chance for love to get a foothold. There can't be a 'losing' side in order for any form of love to flourish. And why would the rich and powerful want that? They wouldn't. They drive wealth and 'value' as far away from any love as possible, because love wouldn't classify or seperate people the way that capitalism or any other present political system does.

I understand why the world is so lacking. I do not understand why so few have noticed the smoke and mirrors that keep the world at bay.
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Sep 8, 2022 8:02 AM CST School subjects
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
ChesneyChrist: And also the materialism. Making it on merit has much to do with material things - I don't really like that baker but I do like his bread. It requires some objective standard like the best bread rather than who you like or dislike. Now is benevolence going to treat people equally like that? Not normally, no. Often it will decide that certain types are entitled to more help than others. The closest we actually come to equality is the sense of fair play - I don't like him but he's right, his bread is better.
Now obviously there's the good Samaritan who would help anyone whoever they are but that is not how altruism normally works. Normally it's about playing favourites and capitalism helps to break down that nepotism and cronyism by appreciating that someone is right without having to like them. It's much easier to give a fair shake through capitalism it doesn't require a saint for it to be done.
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Sep 8, 2022 9:11 AM CST School subjects
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
ChesneyChrist: And also the materialism. Making it on merit has much to do with material things - I don't really like that baker but I do like his bread. It requires some objective standard like the best bread rather than who you like or dislike. Now is benevolence going to treat people equally like that? Not normally, no. Often it will decide that certain types are entitled to more help than others. The closest we actually come to equality is the sense of fair play - I don't like him but he's right, his bread is better.
You are speaking in terms of the same old same old that has pervaded society and filled it with notions of comparison and competitiveness. You were taught this as we all were. Both of these things denigrate, belittle and marginalize the human being to 'feel' unknowingly subservient' to those that hold 'higher' positions or who's marketing rules public opinion.

Neither is it about fair play. This idea allows for victimhood, one of the more destructive states of the human condition. It is, if love were considered, a sovereigness of equality that is not gender nor race, nor creed, etc specific. This is very hard to grasp by a society built on financial prowess rather than love.

Your mind has to open to consider things beyond what you were taught, to surrender old belief systems that tell you to remain stuck in the puddle created by selfish rulers.
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Sep 8, 2022 9:21 AM CST School subjects
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
ChesneyChrist: Now obviously there's the good Samaritan who would help anyone whoever they are but that is not how altruism normally works. Normally it's about playing favourites and capitalism helps to break down that nepotism and cronyism by appreciating that someone is right without having to like them. It's much easier to give a fair shake through capitalism it doesn't require a saint for it to be done.
This is the epitome of present day subservient thinking which is not really thinking at all. It is merely speaking as the mind was taught to, to behold anything but love as the successful idol, to find all manner of chaos in any thought that involves considering love as the solution. One does not look for solutions of love when one hasn't been taught to. One that is taught to compare against love will always, always find the wrongs in any idea of love so that it may remain stuck in it's old ways even when it suffers in doing so.

You cannot see good samaritans when you are not in that mind, yourself. It is as if you are trying to sail a ship on the land, since a sailor would not do this anymore than a good samaritan would look for evil to find goodness. Until one sees the truth of where they are, their ability to solve for love eludes them.
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