There's an irony to asking whether betrayal should be forgiven in what is like a holding pen for 58 year old fascist taxi drivers, or an entire room full of shopping centre security guards. But what I would argue is that the unforgiving are no guarantee against being taking advantage of. I think they just pretend the baddy isn't one or that the bad thing didn't happen. These people suspicious of everyone they meet will do remarkably the opposite when it's convenient.
Forgiveness makes you move on with a piece of mind. It's kind of selfish act, it brings a sense of being bigger than life. You forgive another person something you might have caused yourself, as is the case quite often. Forgiveness is when you forgive yourself for forgiving someone else.
And I explain hell hath no fury like a woman scorned in the same way. Those who avoid doing the bad thing because they never had the chance, never had the opportunity, are those who will not forgive someone who did the bad thing when the chance arises.
Essentially male forgiveness comes from a philosophy of action. You don't see weak and harmless as the same thing. Just because someone is powerless does not make them an angel this is a left wing belief to say that children will be more moral than their parents because children don't have the power to do things. Or to assume Russia will be better than America, more moral than America, because until recently Russia was too weak to do anything - therefore harmless because it was powerless. It's the leftiness which assumes that the powerless remain harmless when they become powerful. It's the lefty belief that the opposition, the underdog, the child and the woman are by definition more moral than what they replace.
Give the war in Ukraine as an example. I've some rather upsetting news which is that what goes on in the warzone is closer to the truth than the peace which is a lie. In a warzone you find out the men who are not rapists and under the security state you'll never know. In safespace it all congeals into a safe average where you'll never know the good from the bad.
Which will be why the greatest generation were able to forgive the Germans after the war where today's people who don't know they were born try to prosecute a 100 year old man. The sheltered cannot even imagine what they themselves might be capable of, the sheltered prosecute the 100 year old man because of the wrongheaded certainty that they would have joined the French resistance. The actual members of the french resistance more forgiving of the Germans than those who think they would have joined the French resistance because they've no idea what really hard is.
Anyway the point is that if you experience murder and torture your response to the things is not necessarily what you thought it would be. You might actually be less guarded than the people who grew up in safespace. More forgiving than people who don't know what being harmed is.
We find the same with the working class. They're not more likely to forgive you, more likely to accept you, and more likely to tell you the truth because they've never had it so good. No it's the opposite. The tolerance of you comes from what they themselves have endured. The people who endure nothing will consider not wearing a mask a betrayal and will brutalise those who scarcely caused harm.
Particularly men in the working class because that's society's short straw. Not only working class but male - the most likely to die in a ditch. Women in the working class are more of a Karen because they're not really working class, they're the species-carrying class they still get protection and priority as the mothership hence the Karens.
Actually I'm really glad that they've come up with a name for how a sheltered life leads to taking liberties and having absolutely no mercy, and it's Karen. And Karen isn't a girl it's specifically identifying the mother and her sense of punitive entitlement.
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