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Dec 19, 2022 10:38 AM CSTDo you think that she should be released?
Didi7
Didi7Didi7Central, Chaguanas, Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 39 Polls 1,342 Posts

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“I can’t remember a whole lot of stuff,” she said when a commissioner asked why she couldn’t articulate what she’d learned in prison programs. Her lawyer later pointed to a doctor’s report that documented some causes: Parkinson’s disease, early dementia, a neurocognitive disorder, chemotherapy and a head injury. Carter told the Guardian that it felt as if the board ignored her lawyer’s explanation of her disabilities: “It’s very hard to concentrate. I know in my mind what I want to say, but I can’t express it, it won’t come out. My mind just freezes and I can’t go forward.”

Despite Carter’s age, her rapidly deteriorating health and her repeated apologies for her memory loss, the commissioners denied her parole and admonished her for her inability to answer questions: “You’re manipulative … lacking in sincerity … You do continue to pose an unreasonable risk of danger to society.”

Carter, who grew up in Minnesota and Orange county, California, met her husband, Lynn Carter, at a bowling alley. She had various jobs until 1996 when at age 43, she was assaulted while working at a storage facility – struck in the head, knocked unconscious and hospitalized. She began to suffer memory loss from the trauma, her records show.

A year later, she and her husband took in Kenneth Boone, a distant relative. In July 1997, Boone and another man killed Lynn Carter; prosecutors alleged that Janet Carter helped plan the attack.

Carter testified that she had no part in the killing; her lawyers said she was drugged by Boone and unconscious when it happened, and that when she awoke, he threatened to kill her and her parents if she reported what happened. Boone admitted in his testimony that he’d been trying to rob Lynn and that Janet played no role. She has confessed to helping coverup the death under threat.

She was convicted of first-degree murder and sentenced to 26 years to life, her first criminal offense.

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Dec 19, 2022 10:45 AM CST Do you think that she should be released?
Are bidy64 and didy7 related ??
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Dec 19, 2022 11:03 AM CST Do you think that she should be released?
Tiger_Moth
Tiger_MothTiger_MothYeovil, Somerset, England UK23 Threads 2,833 Posts
Hi Didi

Just read about this murder on another website and not sure just what to believe as she apparently suffered a head trauma before this incident which had affected her. Was she involved in the murder or just involved in the cover up apparently under threat dunno

Head traumas can cause many problems in later life as has been apparent here in the U.K. with the onset of Parkinson's in many sports players of late.

Frankly I see no point in keeping her locked away as this puts pressure on the prison staff to care for her and I fail to see how she can be a danger to the public with these conditions. J.M.O.handshake
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Dec 19, 2022 11:16 AM CST Do you think that she should be released?
Didi7
Didi7Didi7Central, Chaguanas Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 39 Polls 1,342 Posts
Tiger_Moth: Hi Didi

Just read about this murder on another website and not sure just what to believe as she apparently suffered a head trauma before this incident which had affected her. Was she involved in the murder or just involved in the cover up apparently under threat

Head traumas can cause many problems in later life as has been apparent here in the U.K. with the onset of Parkinson's in many sports players of late.

Frankly I see no point in keeping her locked away as this puts pressure on the prison staff to care for her and I fail to see how she can be a danger to the public with these conditions. J.M.O.
Thanks for your comment TM. My thoughts are similar, but I don't why the authorities find it so easy to deny her.confused Perhaps I'm missing something...dunno
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Dec 19, 2022 11:17 AM CST Do you think that she should be released?
Didi7
Didi7Didi7Central, Chaguanas Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 39 Polls 1,342 Posts
michaelright: Are bidy64 and didy7 related ??
Huh?hmmm
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Dec 19, 2022 11:37 AM CST Do you think that she should be released?
Didi7
Didi7Didi7Central, Chaguanas Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 39 Polls 1,342 Posts
Part of the Article states that,

"The number of older Americans in prison has surged in recent decades, in part due to harsh sentencing laws. More than 203,000 people are now serving life sentences in the US, and 61,000 of them (30%) are 55 and older. Some experts estimate that by 2030, there could be 200,000 elderly dementia patients imprisoned in the US.

Roughly 11,700 people in California prisons are 60 years and older. They remain incarcerated despite widespread evidence that people “age out of crime” and that when lifers do get released, they rarely reoffend (some data suggests fewer than 1% commit a new crime against a person). More than one-third of people in California prisons are serving life sentences, one of the highest rates in the US."


Is it that the authorities feel, that is their diminished capacity, they may be a burden upon society? Hence their reason for denying these persons some freedom. dunno
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Dec 19, 2022 11:50 AM CST Do you think that she should be released?
I think she should be released to a nursing home.
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Dec 19, 2022 12:34 PM CST Do you think that she should be released?
Tiger_Moth
Tiger_MothTiger_MothYeovil, Somerset, England UK23 Threads 2,833 Posts
Didi7: Part of the Article states that,

"The number of older Americans in prison has surged in recent decades, in part due to harsh sentencing laws. More than 203,000 people are now serving life sentences in the US, and 61,000 of them (30%) are 55 and older. Some experts estimate that by 2030, there could be 200,000 elderly dementia patients imprisoned in the US.

Roughly 11,700 people in California prisons are 60 years and older. They remain incarcerated despite widespread evidence that people “age out of crime” and that when lifers do get released, they rarely reoffend (some data suggests fewer than 1% commit a new crime against a person). More than one-third of people in California prisons are serving life sentences, one of the highest rates in the US."


Is it that the authorities feel, that is their diminished capacity, they may be a burden upon society? Hence their reason for denying these persons some freedom.
Whether in or out of prison the society is still burdened surely. She would not be transferred to a Nursing Home as that would cost more money. I think she wants to be with family so I cannot see the problem .dunno
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Dec 19, 2022 1:12 PM CST Do you think that she should be released?
Youcannow
YoucannowYoucannowLondon, Essex, England UK96 Threads 3,523 Posts
She sounds unstable to me .
Keep her locked up for her own safety as well as the publics .
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Dec 19, 2022 1:19 PM CST Do you think that she should be released?
Didi7
Didi7Didi7Central, Chaguanas Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 39 Polls 1,342 Posts
Coldheaven: I think she should be released to a nursing home.
That's a good idea CHthumbs uphug
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Dec 19, 2022 1:22 PM CST Do you think that she should be released?
Didi7
Didi7Didi7Central, Chaguanas Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 39 Polls 1,342 Posts
Tiger_Moth: Whether in or out of prison the society is still burdened surely. She would not be transferred to a Nursing Home as that would cost more money. I think she wants to be with family so I cannot see the problem .
Good point about the cost of her being in a Nursing home, TM. And also, her sister is offering to take care of her, so that's probably best.hmmm
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Dec 19, 2022 1:22 PM CST Do you think that she should be released?
Tiger_Moth
Tiger_MothTiger_MothYeovil, Somerset, England UK23 Threads 2,833 Posts
Youcannow: She sounds unstable to me .
Keep her locked up for her own safety as well as the publics .
So you consider that someone who may possibly have Parkinson's is unstable and a danger to the public..dunno
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Dec 19, 2022 1:23 PM CST Do you think that she should be released?
Youcannow
YoucannowYoucannowLondon, Essex, England UK96 Threads 3,523 Posts
Tiger_Moth: So you consider that someone who may possibly have Parkinson's is unstable and a danger to the public..
I think she has other issues also .
People with Parkinson’s generally don’t murder people .
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Dec 19, 2022 1:25 PM CST Do you think that she should be released?
Didi7
Didi7Didi7Central, Chaguanas Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 39 Polls 1,342 Posts
Youcannow: She sounds unstable to me .
Keep her locked up for her own safety as well as the publics .
I disagree with keeping her "locked up"; she would be better off receiving personal care.
Her family would ensure that she remains "stable", and happy.
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Dec 19, 2022 1:26 PM CST Do you think that she should be released?
Youcannow
YoucannowYoucannowLondon, Essex, England UK96 Threads 3,523 Posts
Didi7: I disagree with keeping her "locked up"; she would be better off receiving personal care.
Her family would ensure that she remains "stable", and happy.
Are you sure about that ?
What do her family say on the matter ?
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Dec 19, 2022 1:27 PM CST Do you think that she should be released?
Tiger_Moth
Tiger_MothTiger_MothYeovil, Somerset, England UK23 Threads 2,833 Posts
Youcannow: I think she has other issues also .
People with Parkinson’s generally don’t murder people .
She says she didn't murder anyone ,the jury convicted her and how many times have we seen a jury proved wrong.

I'm not really sure what happened in this case John but from a medical point of view she really should get proper treatment. Parkinson's is a dreadful disease.
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Dec 19, 2022 1:40 PM CST Do you think that she should be released?
Youcannow
YoucannowYoucannowLondon, Essex, England UK96 Threads 3,523 Posts
Tiger_Moth: She says she didn't murder anyone ,the jury convicted her and how many times have we seen a jury proved wrong.

I'm not really sure what happened in this case John but from a medical point of view she really should get proper treatment. Parkinson's is a dreadful disease.
Well if she said she never murdered anyone, then she must be telling the truth .
Parkinson’s can be treated in prison .
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Dec 19, 2022 4:30 PM CST Do you think that she should be released?
Didi7
Didi7Didi7Central, Chaguanas Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 39 Polls 1,342 Posts
Youcannow: Are you sure about that ?
What do her family say on the matter ?
Dass, Carter’s sister, said she worries daily that her sister won’t make it out of prison alive. In recent years, both of their parents and one of their sisters have died. Carter never got to say goodbye. “I just want to be able to take care of her,” said Debra Dass, Carter’s sister. “I can never figure out why, with all her health problems, they think she’s a danger to society. She’s in a wheelchair and can barely take care of herself. She deserves to have a few good years.”

“Her drive to come home is strong,” said Lilli Paratore, her attorney with UnCommon Law. But she’s been in and out of the hospital and struggling to cope. Carter has a fourth hearing scheduled this Thursday, but contracted Covid two weeks prior, and at one point was so ill, Dass could barely understand what she was saying on the phone.

Dass said she remains proud of her sister’s ability to take care of the women around her in the prison, and when she’s been denied parole, Carter tries to remain positive and lean into her faith.
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Dec 21, 2022 2:03 PM CST Do you think that she should be released?
Iyyov
IyyovIyyovPwetty Blue Planet, Washington USA3 Threads 253 Posts
michaelright: Are bidy64 and didy7 related ??
64=2^7/2

So, maybe. ;)
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Dec 21, 2022 2:22 PM CST Do you think that she should be released?
CossackCat
CossackCatCossackCatSomewhere, Maryland USA492 Threads 45 Polls 9,137 Posts
Other
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She needs a new trial
This doesn't sound like Murder 1, to me.

Accomplice maybe
Victim maybe

Her age and health are separate issues
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Dec 21, 2022 4:55 PM CST Do you think that she should be released?
Didi7
Didi7Didi7Central, Chaguanas Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 39 Polls 1,342 Posts
Iyyov: 64=2^7/2

So, maybe. ;)
laugh
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Dec 21, 2022 4:59 PM CST Do you think that she should be released?
Didi7
Didi7Didi7Central, Chaguanas Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 39 Polls 1,342 Posts
CossackCat: Other
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She needs a new trial
This doesn't sound like Murder 1, to me.

Accomplice maybe
Victim maybe

Her age and health are separate issues
hmmm CCat, that might be the remedy, but only if she is willing to go through that again. Besides, there's much that she doesn't remember, so she wouldn't be able to 'defend' herself without a really good lawyer. And what about the cost for a really good lawyer?dunno
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Dec 22, 2022 5:39 AM CST Do you think that she should be released?
Didi7: Part of the Article states that,

"The number of older Americans in prison has surged in recent decades, in part due to harsh sentencing laws. More than 203,000 people are now serving life sentences in the US, and 61,000 of them (30%) are 55 and older. Some experts estimate that by 2030, there could be 200,000 elderly dementia patients imprisoned in the US.

Roughly 11,700 people in California prisons are 60 years and older. They remain incarcerated despite widespread evidence that people “age out of crime” and that when lifers do get released, they rarely reoffend (some data suggests fewer than 1% commit a new crime against a person). More than one-third of people in California prisons are serving life sentences, one of the highest rates in the US."


Is it that the authorities feel, that is their diminished capacity, they may be a burden upon society? Hence their reason for denying these persons some freedom.
The purpose of a prison sentence isn't to prevent a person from committing more crimes. It is punishment for crimes they have already committed. "Aging out of crime" isn't relevant as to why they are incarcerated.
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Dec 22, 2022 5:47 AM CST Do you think that she should be released?
Tiger_Moth
Tiger_MothTiger_MothYeovil, Somerset, England UK23 Threads 2,833 Posts
OddTraveller: The purpose of a prison sentence isn't to prevent a person from committing more crimes. It is punishment for crimes they have already committed. "Aging out of crime" isn't relevant as to why they are incarcerated.
This is not a case of age but a condition that requires medical assistance and constant monitoring. There just might have been a miscarriage of justice also.handshake
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Dec 22, 2022 9:54 AM CST Do you think that she should be released?
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
I don't know if anybody has seen the south park episode where Cartmen pretends to be disabled to compete in the special Olympics, and then loses. Well, that's what it would take for me to say she's faking it.

Not saying I'd let her go, I just wouldn't use a genuine illness to discredit her. But if they were using a genuine illness to discredit her then I start leaning towards miscarriage of justice. If there was a miscarriage of justice and they suspect she might be innocent, the system will conspire to disguise that she is. If she was released she'd most probably live longer and potentially garner more attention which would increase the authorities risk of being exposed
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Dec 22, 2022 11:38 AM CST Do you think that she should be released?
Didi7
Didi7Didi7Central, Chaguanas Trinidad and Tobago92 Threads 39 Polls 1,342 Posts
Tiger_Moth: This is not a case of age but a condition that requires medical assistance and constant monitoring. There just might have been a miscarriage of justice also.
I agree. It's situations like this that put a damper on my positivity, and make me think that rules and policies are only there to make the ones that 'wield' them look as though they're right. But they're aren't ALWAYS right!
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