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Apr 17, 2009 10:11 PM CSTShould Texas seced from the Union if the US Federal Goverment continues with what its been doing?
jaynimble
jaynimblejaynimblehampton, Virginia, USA25 Threads 7 Polls 237 Posts

Should Texas seced from the Union if the US Federal Goverment continues with what its been doing?(Vote Below)

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Yes
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No
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33%
IDK
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9%
Chuck Norris for president of Texas!! Yes hes
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already considered running
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Total Votes
64
Befroe entering the Union Texas was a free Country for ten years and reserves the right to secede the union if it feels necessary. Should they?
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Apr 17, 2009 10:16 PM CST Should Texas seced from the Union if the US Federal Goverment continues with what its been doing?
adamisk
adamiskadamiskraleigh, Mississippi USA34 Threads 4 Polls 1,325 Posts
sure why not ? i don't think the government would allow that now that i think about it .
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Apr 17, 2009 10:17 PM CST Should Texas seced from the Union if the US Federal Goverment continues with what its been doing?
Shedman01
Shedman01Shedman01Gonzales, Texas USA16 Threads 2 Polls 1,029 Posts
Since when is Texas part of the Union?

devil
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Apr 17, 2009 10:19 PM CST Should Texas seced from the Union if the US Federal Goverment continues with what its been doing?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
Hell with texas...I want indiana to leave the union laugh
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Apr 17, 2009 10:22 PM CST Should Texas seced from the Union if the US Federal Goverment continues with what its been doing?
lrrh77
lrrh77lrrh77college station, Texas USA5 Threads 1,451 Posts
I'm so glad you posted this. I was just saying that Texans should really start thinking about thier right to pull out from the Union. I'm sure that would create a huge rippliing effect through out the rest of the united states though.
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Apr 17, 2009 10:27 PM CST Should Texas seced from the Union if the US Federal Goverment continues with what its been doing?
jaynimble
jaynimblejaynimblehampton, Virginia USA25 Threads 7 Polls 237 Posts
It would send a real message if texas did. As far as the federal goverment not allowing texas to. The federal goverment would not use military power. Texas has a well equiped national guard and would have thousand if not tens of thousands of volunteers in militias!!!
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Apr 17, 2009 10:29 PM CST Should Texas seced from the Union if the US Federal Goverment continues with what its been doing?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
jaynimble: It would send a real message if texas did. As far as the federal goverment not allowing texas to. The federal goverment would not use military power. Texas has a well equiped national guard and would have thousand if not tens of thousands of volunteers in militias!!!


Hell, my fervent wish is that California, New York and Vermont would leave the union. Then you guys could stay. rolling on the floor laughing
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Apr 17, 2009 10:30 PM CST Should Texas seced from the Union if the US Federal Goverment continues with what its been doing?
jaynimble: It would send a real message if texas did. As far as the federal goverment not allowing texas to. The federal goverment would not use military power. Texas has a well equiped national guard and would have thousand if not tens of thousands of volunteers in militias!!!
then do something about the border they can't protect them with the govt what would they do on their owndunno
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Apr 17, 2009 10:35 PM CST Should Texas seced from the Union if the US Federal Goverment continues with what its been doing?
Da10th
Da10thDa10thThree Springs, Pennsylvania USA17 Threads 2,744 Posts
jaynimble: It would send a real message if texas did. As far as the federal goverment not allowing texas to. The federal goverment would not use military power. Texas has a well equiped national guard and would have thousand if not tens of thousands of volunteers in militias!!!



Their national guard wouldn't have any equipment had it not been given to them by the federal government.


Does this mean that Texas would take responsibility for their part of the border problem? Doubtful since they have yet to do so w/ their oh so powerful national guard.

As much noise as the Texas governor is making about succession, I bet he is still accepting stimulus money as are Texans in general.

The day Texas as a whole stands up and rejects every penny of that stimulus is the day I would support that state to succeed, because then & only then would they proove they are willing to stand on their own.
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Apr 17, 2009 10:36 PM CST Should Texas seced from the Union if the US Federal Goverment continues with what its been doing?
adamisk
adamiskadamiskraleigh, Mississippi USA34 Threads 4 Polls 1,325 Posts
jaynimble: It would send a real message if texas did. As far as the federal goverment not allowing texas to. The federal goverment would not use military power. Texas has a well equiped national guard and would have thousand if not tens of thousands of volunteers in militias!!!




important people come up missing too and also i bet the government officials that we don't know about can be very convincing . but straight out in the open military force would never be used .
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Apr 17, 2009 10:37 PM CST Should Texas seced from the Union if the US Federal Goverment continues with what its been doing?
jaynimble
jaynimblejaynimblehampton, Virginia USA25 Threads 7 Polls 237 Posts
Da10th: Their national guard wouldn't have any equipment had it not been given to them by the federal government.Does this mean that Texas would take responsibility for their part of the border problem? Doubtful since they have yet to do so w/ their oh so powerful national guard.

As much noise as the Texas governor is making about succession, I bet he is still accepting stimulus money as are Texans in general.

The day Texas as a whole stands up and rejects every penny of that stimulus is the day I would support that state to succeed, because then & only then would they proove they are willing to stand on their own.


Texas has rejected all 555 million in stimulus money they were offered.
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Apr 17, 2009 10:38 PM CST Should Texas seced from the Union if the US Federal Goverment continues with what its been doing?
Da10th
Da10thDa10thThree Springs, Pennsylvania USA17 Threads 2,744 Posts
jaynimble: Texas has rejected all 555 million in stimulus money they were offered.
Their citizens have not and are accepting the tax cuts.
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Apr 17, 2009 10:39 PM CST Should Texas seced from the Union if the US Federal Goverment continues with what its been doing?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
caspatch: then do something about the border they can't protect them with the govt what would they do on their own



of course if 30% of Texas salaries and wages weren't going to the feds...they'd have the money to protect the border.

On the other hand, providing for a national defense is supposed to be the sole purpose of a federal government.
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Apr 17, 2009 10:40 PM CST Should Texas seced from the Union if the US Federal Goverment continues with what its been doing?
Da10th
Da10thDa10thThree Springs, Pennsylvania USA17 Threads 2,744 Posts
Not to mention the billions that Texas recieves from the feds via the Dept. Transportation, Law Enforcement, etc
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Apr 17, 2009 10:41 PM CST Should Texas seced from the Union if the US Federal Goverment continues with what its been doing?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
Take comfort that Obama's stimulus package is costing your children and grand children $144,000 per person. And you thought Bush was bad.doh
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Apr 17, 2009 10:42 PM CST Should Texas seced from the Union if the US Federal Goverment continues with what its been doing?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
Da10th: Not to mention the billions that Texas recieves from the feds via the Dept. Transportation, Law Enforcement, etc


red herring...
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Apr 17, 2009 10:42 PM CST Should Texas seced from the Union if the US Federal Goverment continues with what its been doing?
jaynimble
jaynimblejaynimblehampton, Virginia USA25 Threads 7 Polls 237 Posts
Well texas would recieve more money because less would be going to the Feds so. Either way they can still pay for it.
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Apr 17, 2009 10:44 PM CST Should Texas seced from the Union if the US Federal Goverment continues with what its been doing?
Da10th
Da10thDa10thThree Springs, Pennsylvania USA17 Threads 2,744 Posts
jaynimble: Well texas would recieve more money because less would be going to the Feds so. Either way they can still pay for it.




Just because less would be going to the Feds doesn't mean more would be going to Texas.

What is Texas going to do? Raise taxes? Isn't that kind of contradictory to do? If people wanted the higher taxes, they would have stayed in the Union in the first place.
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Apr 17, 2009 10:45 PM CST Should Texas seced from the Union if the US Federal Goverment continues with what its been doing?
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Look at it like this......just President Obama way of being President Lincoln like. President Lincoln had a crisis of Southern State Seceding. President Obama needs a succession crisis as well.

Let us face it...unless President Obama successfully faces every imagined crisis a President can face...he cannot not be numero uno
on the great Presidential list.
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Apr 17, 2009 10:45 PM CST Should Texas seced from the Union if the US Federal Goverment continues with what its been doing?
Da10th
Da10thDa10thThree Springs, Pennsylvania USA17 Threads 2,744 Posts
Indyfella: red herring...
Just the feds way to keep control over the states.
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Apr 17, 2009 10:45 PM CST Should Texas seced from the Union if the US Federal Goverment continues with what its been doing?
lrrh77
lrrh77lrrh77college station, Texas USA5 Threads 1,451 Posts
Da10th: Their national guard wouldn't have any equipment had it not been given to them by the federal government.Does this mean that Texas would take responsibility for their part of the border problem? Doubtful since they have yet to do so w/ their oh so powerful national guard.

As much noise as the Texas governor is making about succession, I bet he is still accepting stimulus money as are Texans in general.

The day Texas as a whole stands up and rejects every penny of that stimulus is the day I would support that state to succeed, because then & only then would they proove they are willing to stand on their own.


Texas State Troopers do rotations to help the military out on the border patrol. And Jay is correct about Texas not accepting O BAMA's payout that comes with too many strings. You should really do your homework before you go wagging that tongue.

We could also start protecting the border the way it should be protected...alot of the problem there is all the government rules and regulations they have to follow before our guys can open fire or send them back across the border.

Are you forgetting that you're talking about a state that is all for killing people...we're the home of sparky. You think Texans won't be able to handle their own??? There's a reason terrorists don't target Texas!!!!

Texas has always reserved the right to pull out and become its own country. Texas has all of its own resources. It's not as far fetched as some think it is.
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Apr 17, 2009 10:46 PM CST Should Texas seced from the Union if the US Federal Goverment continues with what its been doing?
jaynimble
jaynimblejaynimblehampton, Virginia USA25 Threads 7 Polls 237 Posts
Da10th: Just because less would be going to the Feds doesn't mean more would be going to Texas.

What is Texas going to do? Raise taxes? Isn't that kind of contradictory to do? If people wanted the higher taxes, they would have stayed in the Union in the first place.


You just don't get it.
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Apr 17, 2009 10:48 PM CST Should Texas seced from the Union if the US Federal Goverment continues with what its been doing?
Da10th
Da10thDa10thThree Springs, Pennsylvania USA17 Threads 2,744 Posts
lrrh77:

Are you forgetting that you're talking about a state that is all for killing people...we're the home of sparky. You think Texans won't be able to handle their own??? There's a reason terrorists don't target Texas!!!!

Texas has always reserved the right to pull out and become its own country. Texas has all of its own resources. It's not as far fetched as some think it is.




What are they going to target? The Dallas Cowboys?

As far as it being far fetched, its not nearly as magical of an idea either as some think it is.
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Apr 17, 2009 10:48 PM CST Should Texas seced from the Union if the US Federal Goverment continues with what its been doing?
lrrh77
lrrh77lrrh77college station, Texas USA5 Threads 1,451 Posts
Da10th: Not to mention the billions that Texas recieves from the feds via the Dept. Transportation, Law Enforcement, etc


Of course we'll take it while in the union....all the more to have on hand for when we pull out. doh
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Apr 17, 2009 10:48 PM CST Should Texas seced from the Union if the US Federal Goverment continues with what its been doing?
Da10th
Da10thDa10thThree Springs, Pennsylvania USA17 Threads 2,744 Posts
jaynimble: You just don't get it.
Is this the basis of your argument?
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Apr 17, 2009 10:50 PM CST Should Texas seced from the Union if the US Federal Goverment continues with what its been doing?
jaynimble
jaynimblejaynimblehampton, Virginia USA25 Threads 7 Polls 237 Posts
Texas will be fine financially. They hava alot of natural resources and a very expensive one too! OIL and they also have the Dalas Cowboys cheerleads!! Thats got to count for something. lol
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Apr 17, 2009 10:50 PM CST Should Texas seced from the Union if the US Federal Goverment continues with what its been doing?
lrrh77
lrrh77lrrh77college station, Texas USA5 Threads 1,451 Posts
Da10th: What are they going to target? The Dallas Cowboys?

As far as it being far fetched, its not nearly as magical of an idea either as some think it is.


Nah they would target stupid people....after all can't fix stupid!!!


If you're any indication of the state of Pennsylvania maybe well start there.

In all seriousness I was talking about that mexican border that you seem so threatened by and very stupidly stated that Texas does nothing to help.
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Apr 17, 2009 10:51 PM CST Should Texas seced from the Union if the US Federal Goverment continues with what its been doing?
jaynimble
jaynimblejaynimblehampton, Virginia USA25 Threads 7 Polls 237 Posts
Da10th: Is this the basis of your argument?


It not a basis for my argument, its my way of saying you don't understand the basic concepts of what i am arguing and it isn't worth it if you can't even understand that.
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Apr 17, 2009 10:51 PM CST Should Texas seced from the Union if the US Federal Goverment continues with what its been doing?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
lrrh77: Texas State Troopers do rotations to help the military out on the border patrol. And Jay is correct about Texas not accepting O BAMA's payout that comes with too many strings. You should really do your homework before you go wagging that tongue.

We could also start protecting the border the way it should be protected...alot of the problem there is all the government rules and regulations they have to follow before our guys can open fire or send them back across the border.

Are you forgetting that you're talking about a state that is all for killing people...we're the home of sparky. You think Texans won't be able to handle their own??? There's a reason terrorists don't target Texas!!!!

Texas has always reserved the right to pull out and become its own country. Texas has all of its own resources. It's not as far fetched as some think it is.



The only problem I see is that the US map would look really funny. laugh
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Apr 17, 2009 10:52 PM CST Should Texas seced from the Union if the US Federal Goverment continues with what its been doing?
Da10th
Da10thDa10thThree Springs, Pennsylvania USA17 Threads 2,744 Posts
jaynimble: It not a basis for my argument, its my way of saying you don't understand the basic concepts of what i am arguing and it isn't worth it if you can't even understand that.
You have yet to make a point.
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Apr 17, 2009 10:52 PM CST Should Texas seced from the Union if the US Federal Goverment continues with what its been doing?
lrrh77
lrrh77lrrh77college station, Texas USA5 Threads 1,451 Posts
Indyfella: The only problem I see is that the US map would look really funny.


I agree. I love your posts by the way..Indy. cheering
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