Where we created by Religion or Evolution ( Archived) (353)

true Boban and i certainly dont have all the answers,
but i guess everything started with the big bang

probably...

so there is some kind of life ,somewhere

which was created somehow

One more time! There was a creation that evolved over a long time (humpteen zillion years, give or take a week). Lucifer and a third of the Angels were over this evolving creation....there were dinosaus, apes, manlike apes, One wheel that no one know what to do with yet.....etc.

Lucifer rebelled and all creation/evoled was destroyed and made a waste /desolation.

God renewed the Earth and Created Adams and that apple stealing woman Eve!(LOL)The animals ans plants were made AFTER THEIR KIND (Like or simular to those before Lucifer got the bighead.) But God said, Let us make man (a previous critter) in our image. So there was a jump from the manlike critter to mankind as we know him today........Then Eve henpecked Adam into eating that apple......men fell from paradise......Any self respecting monkey will tell you they are not to blame for them. (LOL)

There is no conflict between creation/evolution and these Holy rollers and scientist think they are soooooooooo smart. (LOL)

sorry rilly i dont buy into the religion thing at all theres no proof,
i respect your opinion though

evolution 101

observed instances of speciation

Each to thier own with all due respect. it is for each to find the path they choose. It is only my opinion as i have found for me and an answer to an asked question.....I push no one but will share to any.

People are called to different things in life.....each to thier own. But a doctor does not try to make a carpenter see the errors of his ways as to carpentry. If the carpenter asked a question of medicine our states a falsehood not knowing, the the doctor out of concern would give knowledge for consideration. But each to their own thinking and answers. But the doctor does not tell the carpenter he needs to use a tongue depressor to frame a window. Those who try to sway people with false things of any kind....I try to give knowledge to consider only....if attacked I reply and answer things harmful to others......But all can believe pickles are gold and it would not bother me for them informed believe.

many Christians force things and many non Christians force things while each blame war on each other while striking blows of hate. Foolish! Each to their own....if questions are asked reply as to your understanding.......then let them decide in peace not in battle!

Questions, questions !!

Why is there this abundance of chemistry coding and life forms living in this thin atmospheric coating of this planet and why are humans so massively superior intellectually and self aware ?

It's the biggest of questions of course, and only humans that are capable of asking it, but many don't. They blindly accept the ideas of the ancients who believed in magic and fairy stories to pacify and fill their inquisitive minds. Understandable then that groups of these like minded people formed, it is in general human nature to seek the security of a group and then remain loyal to it.
Other groups then formed, from those with a slightly varying story line to believe in. And to this day, these groups are content with expending their energy, money and whole allotted life span on battling out which story should be followed..... even taking it to the extreme of war and death.

What a disgusting waste of energy, time and money IMO.

Is this what their Gods want of them ?

Did he bless us with this superior brain, for all this ?

A brain capable of questioning even his own existance ?

Science on the other hand does question things, over and over again. Theories will come but will go when experimental evidence proves otherwise. I will continue to back this new religion with my time and energy in the quest for truth and evidence, which we may never find the answer to but worth a try IMO.

great thought provoking post RDM59

Simple! Evolution! to think otherwise is fanciful and in my opinion a fairy tale for people that can not grasp the idea that we are here by pure chance and luck and when we are gone! we are gone! some people need to believe in something more to deal with their fear of dying. If this brings those people comfort and eases their fear of not seeing loved one's again then good on them!. A lot of People cope by believing in things that make them feel better. I'm happy for them to do!

Yeh, I don't have a problem with people needing to believe in someting in order to cope and find comfort in their life. It is when they and their group can't openly accept the ideals of others and start picking fights, to the death over their differences. As I said, what a sad sad waste.

Its nice to see that you've resolved your belief issues but here's my two cents anyway. As an artist and creative I know what it is to take what would be considered nothing and making something beautiful for others to admire. I was partly responsible for creating my daughter. Now being an intelligent life form I like to create things, so I'm not in the least bit bothered that another intelligent life form might have thought it wonderful to create me from whatever he felt necessary to create me from whether a cell or a rib. Man creates things every day just look at the computer. Maybe being a creator myself gives me a different perspective on things than most. I don't seek to solve every mystery in the Universe, some mysteries are the spice to life. What I am sure of is that I am here, my daughter is here. I neither force my beliefs on others neither do I want their forced on me, believe what you want it your right, as for me I'm happy with the idea of a creator you can call him what you want.

with all respect this is a question that will get tempers flying . I respect you opinion on evolution . I personaly can not agree with it At one point man just appeared on this planet an older version but man. Now they say the average heigth for man in just the 1800"s was 5'5 for whatever reason gravity change or diet who knows . They said we came from monkey's but the monkey's are still in there primal state. Now (D N A) has proven that man came from one founding Mother they think from Africa. why does the
(D N A) not even faintly resemble Ape (D N A). Many are trying to float the bloon now that we were seaded here by space aliens.

i dont see why tempers would flair its a discussion thats all,

Being seeded by Aliens I personally think is less far fetched than the current religious ideas of how life came to be.

I think you should check your DNA story, for example I've read that a human has about 99% the same DNA as a mouse.

I will haft to check the Mouse thing I never looked at it but with everything I have checked Human D N A is unique. Great question I will research it .

But for us to create, we have a goal, we have a plan.
Was there a plan and control in the creation of the universe, or just random chemical chance and because of the vastness or infinity of it, all posibilities and physical forms must occur somewhere ?

Oh and I forgot to mention one more thing. I think the key to all this creation stuff lies within the creations themselves. Once again using the artist perspective, if I do a painting there is much that you can learn about me from observing it. The type of colours I used, the style, the subject matter, etc... each of these things tells you something about the person who created the work, their frame of mind, personality, etc.... Maybe you need to look less to the creator and more to the CREATION for your answers. Every artist leaves a stamp of themselves on their work - a fingerprint so to speak. Might not the same be true for humans. Just a thought.

Neither,to bad u lost ur faith. uote=kev147]Having read the origin of species i now firlmy believe in evolution and no longer believe in god whatsoever,
and actually i feel quite angry i was forced into being a catholic for years,
just wondering on your thoughts