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do you have faith in the irish health system ( Archived) (16)

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Dec 11, 2009 1:41 PM CSTdo you have faith in the irish health system
scarwolve
scarwolvescarwolvescarwolfs den, Carlow, Ireland313 Threads 18 Polls 3,060 Posts
scarwolveOPscarwolfs den, Carlow, Ireland3,060 posts

do you have faith in the irish health system(Vote Below)

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yes
8
15%
no
32
59%
no idea
14
26%
Total Votes
54
have a vote
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#1
Dec 11, 2009 1:44 PM CST do you have faith in the irish health system
sweetvelvet
sweetvelvetsweetvelvetdublin, Dublin Ireland37 Threads 1 Polls 6,258 Posts
sweetvelvetdublin, Dublin Ireland6,258 posts
nope ive been waiting 5 years in april to see a specialist frustrated ive now turned to trying the holistic approach instead
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#2
Dec 11, 2009 1:44 PM CST do you have faith in the irish health system
Keeneland
KeenelandKeenelandDublin, Ireland19 Threads 3 Polls 1,993 Posts
KeenelandDublin, Ireland1,993 posts
MARY HARNEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!very mad very mad frustrated frustrated
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#3
Dec 11, 2009 1:45 PM CST do you have faith in the irish health system
scarwolve
scarwolvescarwolvescarwolfs den, Carlow Ireland313 Threads 18 Polls 3,060 Posts
scarwolveOPscarwolfs den, Carlow Ireland3,060 posts
or health system is useless
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#4
Dec 11, 2009 1:48 PM CST do you have faith in the irish health system
nina200982
nina200982nina200982Kildare/London, Kildare Ireland14 Threads 528 Posts
nina200982Kildare/London, Kildare Ireland528 posts
Now when you say faith in health system who you talking about......goverment or actual docs.......????

Personally i think we have some of the best docs in the world..........Yeah we have a very overstreched and overworked system but think the docs and nurses are doing the best they can with the resources they have........
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#5
Dec 11, 2009 3:16 PM CST do you have faith in the irish health system
Partiro
PartiroPartiroNaas, Kildare Ireland14 Threads 4,515 Posts
PartiroNaas, Kildare Ireland4,515 posts
nina200982: Now when you say faith in health system who you talking about......goverment or actual docs.......????

Personally i think we have some of the best docs in the world..........Yeah we have a very overstreched and overworked system but think the docs and nurses are doing the best they can with the resources they have........
thumbs up Well said
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#6
Dec 11, 2009 3:35 PM CST do you have faith in the irish health system
DUBLINGUY1973
DUBLINGUY1973DUBLINGUY1973Dublin, Ireland43 Threads 4 Polls 4,692 Posts
DUBLINGUY1973Dublin, Ireland4,692 posts
nina200982: Now when you say faith in health system who you talking about......goverment or actual docs.......????

Personally i think we have some of the best docs in the world..........Yeah we have a very overstreched and overworked system but think the docs and nurses are doing the best they can with the resources they have........


I agree. I blame the government. You would say something if it was all because of the recession but it seems to me that the health system in Ireland was mis-managed even before the recession hit.
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#7
Dec 12, 2009 3:31 AM CST do you have faith in the irish health system
scriobhneoir
scriobhneoirscriobhneoirCork, Ireland85 Threads 2 Polls 3,276 Posts
scriobhneoirCork, Ireland3,276 posts
Lads and lassies,

Don't isolate Mary Harney in this. She is an independent now, FF could get rid of her if they wanted, they just want her to take all the blame. I have no time for Harney but it is the collective responsibility of the whole government. Not just her.
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#8
Dec 12, 2009 5:10 AM CST do you have faith in the irish health system
ladylumps
ladylumpsladylumpsDublin, Ireland105 Threads 4 Polls 9,454 Posts
ladylumpsDublin, Ireland9,454 posts
nina200982: Now when you say faith in health system who you talking about......goverment or actual docs.......????

Personally i think we have some of the best docs in the world..........Yeah we have a very overstreched and overworked system but think the docs and nurses are doing the best they can with the resources they have........


I agree the doctors, nurses and specialists are not the problem or any of the staff on the ground in the HSE its the paper pushers at the top that make all the stupid decisions.
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#9
Dec 12, 2009 5:38 AM CST do you have faith in the irish health system
Crazylegs
CrazylegsCrazylegsDublin, Ireland71 Threads 6,737 Posts
CrazylegsDublin, Ireland6,737 posts
scarwolve: have a vote



well the doctors and nurses are doing a wonderul job and they one of the most highly trained in Europe in this country but they are being put under awful pressure by the government and that mary harney one needs to be sacked plain and simple..


one of my closest friends is a nurse and she has been attacked and assaulted so many times by patients ad stabbed with needles from junkies.. its horrible to sit and listen to her stories and its not just her all the nurses get the same treatment from certain patients and they do a fantastic job and try help us.. i think that nurses and doc getting a cut in their money is terribl as they are saving lives and are doing a fab job at it too
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#10
Dec 12, 2009 6:02 AM CST do you have faith in the irish health system
Losty
LostyLostyDublin, Ireland138 Threads 2 Polls 3,089 Posts
LostyDublin, Ireland3,089 posts
ladylumps: I agree the doctors, nurses and specialists are not the problem or any of the staff on the ground in the HSE its the paper pushers at the top that make all the stupid decisions.


Seconded. The health system here is brilliant; the only problem is getting to it for your treatment. However, with our collective public servants's running the roost as they do, nothing gets done due to bureaucrats and pen pushing Sir Humphrey's and until there is a clear out in the middle ranks, it will not get any better. Swap desks for beds, that's what I say.
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#11
Dec 12, 2009 6:08 AM CST do you have faith in the irish health system
nina200982
nina200982nina200982Kildare/London, Kildare Ireland14 Threads 528 Posts
nina200982Kildare/London, Kildare Ireland528 posts
I attended a post mortem exam yesterday as part of my work placement.......totally bricking it as i thought i was going to end up on the floor but it was amazing.........its one thing to learn about it all in a book or from the tv but to see the body and its systems up front was just amazing....it gave me such a new found respect for doctors and the work they carry out........never again will i say "oh thats just a routine procedure".......nothing easy about it.........certainly not something your going to learn in general book from ebay....confused
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#12
Dec 12, 2009 8:32 AM CST do you have faith in the irish health system
scarwolve
scarwolvescarwolvescarwolfs den, Carlow Ireland313 Threads 18 Polls 3,060 Posts
scarwolveOPscarwolfs den, Carlow Ireland3,060 posts
* yes4 14%
* no18 62%
* no idea 7

seems the no vote wins.
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#13
Dec 12, 2009 8:52 AM CST do you have faith in the irish health system
Losty
LostyLostyDublin, Ireland138 Threads 2 Polls 3,089 Posts
LostyDublin, Ireland3,089 posts
Keeneland: She has been left in the position because nobody wants the health job as the HSE is in such a state.


From my sources in the know, Harney was offered the Foreign Affairs Portfolio in 2007 and refused it, wishing only to take on Health.
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#14
Dec 12, 2009 8:52 AM CST do you have faith in the irish health system
Godsgift
GodsgiftGodsgiftEnnis, Clare Ireland251 Threads 13 Polls 10,040 Posts
GodsgiftEnnis, Clare Ireland10,040 posts
nina200982: I attended a post mortem exam yesterday as part of my work placement.......totally bricking it as i thought i was going to end up on the floor but it was amazing.........its one thing to learn about it all in a book or from the tv but to see the body and its systems up front was just amazing....it gave me such a new found respect for doctors and the work they carry out........never again will i say "oh thats just a routine procedure".......nothing easy about it.........certainly not something your going to learn in general book from ebay....



Jaysus, you look fine for someone who's just had a post mortem!laugh

I can understand the thinking about a single management structure is the HSE. Why have a different set of accountants, managers, HR etc for every board.

However, they put this in place and kept the old structure intact leaving us just with an extra level of burocracy.

I have been in hospital for operations twice in the last 10 years and more recently for my diabetes. The frontline staff I must say are second to none. I watched nurses working understaffed wards continuously for 11 hours at a time never stopping between and I was astonished.

So I have nothing but praise for the dedication of the medical and surgical staff and the lower level admin who make it all happen.

And I do concur, that Mary Harney seems to be an absolute disaster. One of the problems with PR sadly is that people like her achieve power with no mandate. But I would guess that nobody else wants the job.
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#15
Dec 17, 2009 8:12 AM CST do you have faith in the irish health system
wildmildcoffee
wildmildcoffeewildmildcoffeedublin, Dublin Ireland1 Posts
wildmildcoffeedublin, Dublin Ireland1 posts
laugh frustrated frustrated frustrated
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#16
Dec 17, 2009 9:52 AM CST do you have faith in the irish health system
Colm1982
Colm1982Colm1982Dublin, Ireland4 Threads 353 Posts
Colm1982Dublin, Ireland353 posts
DUBLINGUY1973: I agree. I blame the government. You would say something if it was all because of the recession but it seems to me that the health system in Ireland was mis-managed even before the recession hit.


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