did you see the forward going around that showes the driver of the limosine shooting a pistol over his right shoulder with his left hand in slow moion .and you can see the flash and the ;recoil thats when akennedy was akilleda
BlainX: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mouUUWpEec0&feature=related100% a Hoax
Ah yeah...and if it was, don't you think the Russians (ex-Soviet Union) would have blown the whistle? After all, they had their Luna spacecraft there looking to land as well so they would have been tracking both spacecraft.
I don't care. I just remember how we felt when it happened and where. Ireland, Co Mayo, my mother's home town, in the kitchen listening to it on the radio in the kitchen with some other relatives.
gemery: Ah yeah...and if it was, don't you think the Russians (ex-Soviet Union) would have blown the whistle? After all, they had their Luna spacecraft there looking to land as well so they would have been tracking both spacecraft.
geo
Didn't the Russians shoot up Monkey Russian cosmonauts?
BlainX: Didn't the Russians shoot up Monkey Russian cosmonauts?
Yes, of course. And dogs. The USA launched fruit flies in the 40's. France and Argentina have sent monkeys as well. The Russians did it to experiment and see the biological effects of space travel in space. But they were not called cosmonauts. Monkeys were used as late as 1996. Sending animals into space has been a very common practice, even today.
But what has that got to do with landing on the moon other than the fact the knowledge obtained was useful in going there knowing the effects?
aspen12OPportage la prarie, Manitoba Canada528 posts
KHD100: I don't care. I just remember how we felt when it happened and where. Ireland, Co Mayo, my mother's home town, in the kitchen listening to it on the radio in the kitchen with some other relatives.
EXCITING BUT WAS IT A HOAX.DID YOU EVER WONDER WHY WE DONT GO BACK AND BUILD HUGE DOM AND LIVE THERE CREATE LIFE THERE.WE DONT LIVE IN A FANTSY WORLD.WE SPEND TRILLIONS THERE WHAT ABOUT FEEDING PEOPLE
aspen12: EXCITING BUT WAS IT A HOAX.DID YOU EVER WONDER WHY WE DONT GO BACK AND BUILD HUGE DOM AND LIVE THERE CREATE LIFE THERE.WE DONT LIVE IN A FANTSY WORLD.WE SPEND TRILLIONS THERE WHAT ABOUT FEEDING PEOPLE
I have no idea where this idea of a hoax came up, but it is really dumb. Why don't we go back there? What is the point? There is nothing there and it costs a lot of money to go there and the logistics are just too much at the moment.
If it was a hoax, the Russians would have loved to let the world know, as it would have been a major propaganda coup for them to prove the US didn't land there. It was not just a US event, it was a world event that involved tracking stations, observatories and scientists from around the world. In addition, the rocks that were brought back would not have fooled geologists on earth and I think every University in the world has gotten an opportunity to studied them.
Mythbusters busted all the evidence put forth that it was a hoax. Spacecraft from around the world have photographed the landing sites, backyard astronomers can see the landing halos. The Japanese have photographed Apollo 15 landing site.
aspen12: EXCITING BUT WAS IT A HOAX.DID YOU EVER WONDER WHY WE DONT GO BACK AND BUILD HUGE DOM AND LIVE THERE CREATE LIFE THERE.WE DONT LIVE IN A FANTSY WORLD.WE SPEND TRILLIONS THERE WHAT ABOUT FEEDING PEOPLE
KHD100: I don't care. I just remember how we felt when it happened and where. Ireland, Co Mayo, my mother's home town, in the kitchen listening to it on the radio in the kitchen with some other relatives.
I stated that "I don't care" (if it was a hoax or not)...We were visiting from Canada, and I remember being with family in Ireland listening on the radio (they had no T.V.)... my great aunt still cooked on the fireplace, and how everyone was sitting and standing around the kitchen table listening to the "Walking on the Moon" event.
Don't give me crap for what is going on in the world when what I posted had to do with a great memory I had about many relatives, (many who have passed on)
In a fantasy world, we can feed all the people, look after the poor, and there would be peace and no more war. Don't start shoving some moral garbage at me because every country is guilty of spending money on things that do not feed the poor.
Turn your caps off. yell at someone that deserves it.
aspen12OPportage la prarie, Manitoba Canada528 posts
KHD100: I stated that "I don't care" (if it was a hoax or not)...We were visiting from Canada, and I remember being with family in Ireland listening on the radio (they had no T.V.)... my great aunt still cooked on the fireplace, and how everyone was sitting and standing around the kitchen table listening to the "Walking on the Moon" event.
Don't give me crap for what is going on in the world when what I posted had to do with a great memory I had about many relatives, (many who have passed on)
In a fantasy world, we can feed all the people, look after the poor, and there would be peace and no more war. Don't start shoving some moral garbage at me because every country is guilty of spending money on things that do not feed the poor.
Turn your caps off. yell at someone that deserves it.
I LIKE YELLING GOOD FOR THE VOCALS YES IT COST BILLIONS IF COSTS ARE TO THE MOON WHAT ABOUT MARS
WHO CARES ABOUT YOUR MEMORY YOUR JUST ONE PERSON HOW ABOUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO FOOD OR PLACE TO SLEEP AH BUT YOUR MEMORIES
KHD100: I don't care. I just remember how we felt when it happened and where. Ireland, Co Mayo, my mother's home town, in the kitchen listening to it on the radio in the kitchen with some other relatives.
I bet you didn't realise that the TWO Scientists who headed up the Lunar programe - were Irish Scientists so who put a man on the moon? WE DID!!! Now try and get an American to admit that.
Trealach01: I bet you didn't realise that the TWO Scientists who headed up the Lunar programe - were Irish Scientists so who put a man on the moon? WE DID!!! Now try and get an American to admit that.
And after the Canadian Avro Arrow program was shut down, most of those engineers went to NASA and were very heavily involved in designing the Lunar Module and Command Module.
So it was a joint venture there laddie, the Canucks and the Irish!
Trealach01: I bet you didn't realise that the TWO Scientists who headed up the Lunar programe - were Irish Scientists so who put a man on the moon? WE DID!!! Now try and get an American to admit that.
But none of it would have been possible without Werner Von Braun who should have stood trial and been hanged for war crimes. But of course...the Irish connection! You shielded them!
aspen12OPportage la prarie, Manitoba Canada528 posts
gemery: I have no idea where this idea of a hoax came up, but it is really dumb. Why don't we go back there? What is the point? There is nothing there and it costs a lot of money to go there and the logistics are just too much at the moment.
If it was a hoax, the Russians would have loved to let the world know, as it would have been a major propaganda coup for them to prove the US didn't land there. It was not just a US event, it was a world event that involved tracking stations, observatories and scientists from around the world. In addition, the rocks that were brought back would not have fooled geologists on earth and I think every University in the world has gotten an opportunity to studied them.
Mythbusters busted all the evidence put forth that it was a hoax. Spacecraft from around the world have photographed the landing sites, backyard astronomers can see the landing halos. The Japanese have photographed Apollo 15 landing site.
Aspen, first I don't appreciate being called a liar. Second, the onus is not on me to prove anything. The onus is on you to prove otherwise and the evidence is not there to support it.
AlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
gemery: Aspen, first I don't appreciate being called a liar. Second, the onus is not on me to prove anything. The onus is on you to prove otherwise and the evidence is not there to support it.
geo
Don't sweat the lightweight, he calls everybody a liar and when you provide proof he says you go on and on too much. Go figure.
Anyhow, the logic of a conspiracy is that it would take over four hundred thousand people (as that was the population of NASA for that decade) all remaining silent on this issue, a virtual impossibility or, as James Longuski, Professor of Aeronautics and Astronautics Engineering at Purdue University says, to create the sets, stories, faked proof and pay off the conspirators would have been double the cost and time of the actual moon landings.
As for proof, there are photographs of the lunar landing sites taken by independent sources such as the Ukraine and Britain and, the Japanese actually had an orbiter take high resolution pictures of the areas showing that the topography was exactly the same as depicted in the late sixties and early seventies landings- an impossibility for NASA to replicate at that time.
The rocks brought back are definite proof that something picked them up from the moon and brought them back to earth as they are genuine rocks from the moon as their composition is unlike the earths in iron content however, exactly like the earths otherwise which is not in keeping with iron rich meteorites. Furthermore, MythBusters did a rather detailed show which addresses the hoax proponents main arguments here;
aspen12OPportage la prarie, Manitoba Canada528 posts
Albertaghost: Don't sweat the lightweight, he calls everybody a liar and when you provide proof he says you go on and on too much. Go figure.
Anyhow, the logic of a conspiracy is that it would take over four hundred thousand people (as that was the population of NASA for that decade) all remaining silent on this issue, a virtual impossibility or, as James Longuski, Professor of Aeronautics and Astronautics Engineering at Purdue University says, to create the sets, stories, faked proof and pay off the conspirators would have been double the cost and time of the actual moon landings.
As for proof, there are photographs of the lunar landing sites taken by independent sources such as the Ukraine and Britain and, the Japanese actually had an orbiter take high resolution pictures of the areas showing that the topography was exactly the same as depicted in the late sixties and early seventies landings- an impossibility for NASA to replicate at that time.
The rocks brought back are definite proof that something picked them up from the moon and brought them back to earth as they are genuine rocks from the moon as their composition is unlike the earths in iron content however, exactly like the earths otherwise which is not in keeping with iron rich meteorites. Furthermore, MythBusters did a rather detailed show which addresses the hoax proponents main arguments here;
aspen12OPportage la prarie, Manitoba Canada528 posts
gemery: Aspen, first I don't appreciate being called a liar. Second, the onus is not on me to prove anything. The onus is on you to prove otherwise and the evidence is not there to support it.
geo
OF COURSE I CANT PROVE IT AND SECONDLY I DIDNT SAY YOU WERE A LIAR NOT MY STYLE
Albertaghost: Don't sweat the lightweight, he calls everybody a liar and when you provide proof he says you go on and on too much. Go figure.
Anyhow, the logic of a conspiracy is that it would take over four hundred thousand people (as that was the population of NASA for that decade) all remaining silent on this issue, a virtual impossibility or, as James Longuski, Professor of Aeronautics and Astronautics Engineering at Purdue University says, to create the sets, stories, faked proof and pay off the conspirators would have been double the cost and time of the actual moon landings.
As for proof, there are photographs of the lunar landing sites taken by independent sources such as the Ukraine and Britain and, the Japanese actually had an orbiter take high resolution pictures of the areas showing that the topography was exactly the same as depicted in the late sixties and early seventies landings- an impossibility for NASA to replicate at that time.
The rocks brought back are definite proof that something picked them up from the moon and brought them back to earth as they are genuine rocks from the moon as their composition is unlike the earths in iron content however, exactly like the earths otherwise which is not in keeping with iron rich meteorites. Furthermore, MythBusters did a rather detailed show which addresses the hoax proponents main arguments here;
Yes, I did point out almost all this already. Strange how people just can't grasp it or the magnitude of the event. As I have said, it was not just a US event, but a world event.
The other point is that it was so closely watched by the Russians who would have loved to have blown the whistle. They were trying very hard to land a man on the moon before the Americans and they lost. That was the very reason the Russians gave up on the idea. The Russians actually have photo's taken of the Command Module and the Lunar Module making it's descent. I have seen the photo's in the St Petersburg Museum and that is St Pete Russia.
Oh well, I still remember that day. What an incredible day it was.
aspen12OPportage la prarie, Manitoba Canada528 posts
Albertaghost: Don't sweat the lightweight, he calls everybody a liar and when you provide proof he says you go on and on too much. Go figure.
Anyhow, the logic of a conspiracy is that it would take over four hundred thousand people (as that was the population of NASA for that decade) all remaining silent on this issue, a virtual impossibility or, as James Longuski, Professor of Aeronautics and Astronautics Engineering at Purdue University says, to create the sets, stories, faked proof and pay off the conspirators would have been double the cost and time of the actual moon landings.
As for proof, there are photographs of the lunar landing sites taken by independent sources such as the Ukraine and Britain and, the Japanese actually had an orbiter take high resolution pictures of the areas showing that the topography was exactly the same as depicted in the late sixties and early seventies landings- an impossibility for NASA to replicate at that time.
The rocks brought back are definite proof that something picked them up from the moon and brought them back to earth as they are genuine rocks from the moon as their composition is unlike the earths in iron content however, exactly like the earths otherwise which is not in keeping with iron rich meteorites. Furthermore, MythBusters did a rather detailed show which addresses the hoax proponents main arguments here;
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aspen12OPportage la prarie, Manitoba Canada528 posts
gemery: Yes, I did point out almost all this already. Strange how people just can't grasp it or the magnitude of the event. As I have said, it was not just a US event, but a world event.
The other point is that it was so closely watched by the Russians who would have loved to have blown the whistle. They were trying very hard to land a man on the moon before the Americans and they lost. That was the very reason the Russians gave up on the idea. The Russians actually have photo's taken of the Command Module and the Lunar Module making it's descent. I have seen the photo's in the St Petersburg Museum and that is St Pete Russia.
Oh well, I still remember that day. What an incredible day it was.
geo
iF WE DID GO TO THE MOON HOW MANY YEARS AGO WHICH I BELEIVE HAVENT DONE.WHY HAVENT THEY SET UP A BASE THERE TAKEN BETTER PHOTGRAPS IF BASE WAS THERE WOULD IT NOT EASIER TO GO TO MARS ESPECIALLY FUEL PLANTED SOME LIGHTS WE CAN SEE BACK AT EARTH.I BELEIVE ITS JUST ANOTHER SCAM TO GET MONEY BIG MONEY AND IF THEY WERE THERE 30 SOME YEARS AGO WITH ALL THE TECKNOLOGY NOW IT SHOULD BE A BREESE
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