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Dec 18, 2010 6:53 PM CSTAffordable health care plan of Obama supports less fortuned America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region, Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts

Affordable health care plan of Obama supports less fortuned America!(Vote Below)

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We who got the money deserve health care coverage
8
15%
Affordable health care coverage is a human right!
29
55%
We do not need those less fortuned any way!
5
9%
Republicans are messengers of God&Goodness !
11
21%
Total Votes
53
Christmas is coming and it is a pleasur to know that another Republican Evil plan to reject extention of unemployment benefits for America did not become reality and evne the president had to bite on the sour apple and working to gether with these Mean guys... still millions of americans will feel more secure and knowing now that they will be able to keep a home or having the possibility of feeding their families and paying their bills after christmas.

As you all know ladeis and getns... in my eyes having an afordable health care coverage is a certian Human Right and in a modern and rich super power where all human right declerations important for the whole planet are signed ... I beleive it is shame if health issues is still just another business and tousands og human beings dying each year because of the lack of a propper health care they can affrod.

What bothers all human right activists in America who care a bout ameican health care is Republicans again and again success to lie and forcing their lies becoming a certain beleif in too many americans minds! Politifact have announced that the lie of the Year will be what Republicnas want America to beleive regarding affordable health care plans of Obama administration :



Any thing or every thing these Republicans are claiming regarding a govermental health care taking over are big stincky lies and Republicans are abusing too many amerincans lack of interest for poilitics or many americans really being sick and tired of the economical situation of the country and then getting along with what ever SHI* these Republicans shoving in to their Ears!

The state of the reality regarding these reforms are far from the Fear mongering campain of Republicans, and the american government is trying to stop abuse of tax payers money because of the old system and beside insurence companies and health industry have been allowed to take too much money and absuing people who are ill and desperate, to make few share holders stincky rich and the money sent to Republican party of America mainly and keeping their Fear machine alive!

Health care is a Human Right and being rich or pooor does not matter and all can become impossibly ill and life can destroy all of sudden no matter being a Donald Trump or the hot dog guy on Manhattan! Human beings got the right to expect being taken cared of propperly if ill and of course affroding it they pay but if not a government have got the resposibility to make sure the inhabitants are as healthy as possible and a more healthy population means a better societey... and of course a lot more people employed so the wheels of economy can run more smoothly!

Republican party of America have faught against a fair and balanced health care coverage in America for years and these Mean people have made this fight of theirs as one of THE most important fights and now when they have got their STUPID Bush tax cuts extended they want more and are going to try their best repealing these reforms and their fight will as usual stay Dirty, full of lies, full of deceptions, involving any thing and every thing in it, they will use foregin blood money to gain in this one as well and they will even sell their momma to destroy these reforms... what I hope from here is most of America stands up and at least studying the lies of the GOP specially regarding these reforms.

There is a certain need for nerves being as Mean and careless as GOP is against the benefits of the USA but when having a lot money to support their Sick ideology, then their Mean ideology is still rather Easy to sell to too many naiv americans and even to some americans who actually Gain a lot because of these refomrs!


countinues...
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Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
part two...

Republicans beleive if receiving tax cuts and then making some charity stuff and giving a ten million dollers check to a hospitalto look good and to fool some naiv supporters... then every thing is just fine but still... people are DYING out there and not even one of these honorable ameircans loosing their lives because of being poor or unemployed and then out of coverage are any thing less than a Boehner or a Sarah Palin who got their asse* full of corrpution money and can afford what ever health care coverage they desire!

America is the land of free but America is absoloutely unequal and the rich beleive they are way better than the poor and keep taking human rights of their fellow country men a way, and it is certainly a bout time America stands behind her president who made the first very serious step toward more equality regarding health care coverage in America after years and years with out other major steps.

Time is hard and many of you are angry and disapointed but kicking the man who is already down is not honorable what so ever... there are people out there whose lives are terribly dammaged and are suffering because of illnesses easily treatable if the coverage is aviable for them!

Another thread in here... I look forward to your participation and even some folks trying to destroy my thread by hijacking it and acting as a real spoiled Kid that way... still I enjoy every single one of your posts and looking forward to read the discussions and trying my best to reply.

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Time for Affordable Health Care. Obama says, “My plan begins by covering every American. If you already have health insurance, the only thing that will change for you under this plan is that the amount of money you will spend on premiums will be less.…If you are one of 45 million Americans who don’t have health insurance, you will after this plan becomes law.”

Obama Says He’ll Improve Care, Lower Costs. Obama’s plans “include tackling medical inflation and spiraling health care costs, developing new mechanisms to extend portable, affordable coverage and reforming health care delivery so that it emphasizes prevention and efficiency.”

Obama Plans to Cover the Uninsured. Obama proposes to make a public health plan available nationwide for the uninsured, self-employed and small businesses, giving them access to benefits similar to those available to members of Congress. Key features would be guaranteed eligibility; affordable premiums, co-pays and deductibles; and quality care standards.

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Time for unity and time for more solidartiy in America! America,s children must beocme more equal regarding a propper health care and people,s amount of love and care for loved ones is not up to how much money one got but this love is a certain part of humanity!
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Dec 18, 2010 7:09 PM CST Affordable health care plan of Obama supports less fortuned America!
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
I wonder what Obamaarenot will compromise or has compromised on this one.laugh
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Dec 18, 2010 7:10 PM CST Affordable health care plan of Obama supports less fortuned America!
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
Ccincy: I wonder what Obamaarenot will compromise or has compromised on this one.



I meant Obamacarenot.laugh
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Dec 18, 2010 7:31 PM CST Affordable health care plan of Obama supports less fortuned America!
paws4
paws4paws4Peterborough, Ontario Canada88 Threads 9 Polls 771 Posts
Being Canadian and enjoying free health care makes me wonder why so many Americans are against it. I would not want a corporation (health ins., company) deciding whether I live or die, after paying them an exorbitant monthly fee.

Free enterprise is the American way, but when it comes to your health they should follow the lead of Canada, England, New Zealand, Belgium, France etc. The reason why Canadians outlive Americans by 4 years is universal health-care.
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Dec 18, 2010 7:35 PM CST Affordable health care plan of Obama supports less fortuned America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Yawn...we have been here and did this last summer. The American people rejected it in the mid term. It is being declared unconstitutional in our courts.
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Dec 18, 2010 7:39 PM CST Affordable health care plan of Obama supports less fortuned America!
katt1017
katt1017katt1017Southern, New Hampshire USA67 Threads 10 Polls 1,384 Posts
From what I have seen the Obama plan does more to help the health care and insurance industries than it does to help the poor.

That is SOP for the left though. They help their rich friends get richer and claim they are helping "the little guy".


We need that kind of help about as much as we need a knife in the back.
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Dec 18, 2010 7:52 PM CST Affordable health care plan of Obama supports less fortuned America!
katt1017
katt1017katt1017Southern, New Hampshire USA67 Threads 10 Polls 1,384 Posts
How about having the guts to post a poll that gives real alternatives for answers instead of agree with you or look like a bigot?
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Dec 18, 2010 8:30 PM CST Affordable health care plan of Obama supports less fortuned America!
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
Did my eyes decieve me or did Obama not already sign the tax bill which also included the unempolyment exstention benefits?confused

I recall seeing a piture of Obama sitting at a table holding a pen in his left hand signing something.
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Dec 19, 2010 4:28 AM CST Affordable health care plan of Obama supports less fortuned America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Dude is just tossing us back into the debate of this last summer. This is again bottom up and top down tactics of European liberals. To keep a fire lite under divisive issues that the country has decided.

They see political gain in rioting and in long term political up heavel in a country. The Constitution of the country....can be junked....because it is the stabilizing and forming document. Dude had little problem with ACORN's registering 1000s of illegal voters during the 2008 election.

Like President Obama, he see that as fair political tactic., Anything that works, can be done to better the cause. Including rioting and terrorism.

With a bottom up in the White House, this now is why the liberal left is pressing the Obama administration for more liberal policy making. They work out a compromise deal on the tax cuts, but to liberals is not enough.There was not enough wealth redistribution in it.So............
the crying and blah and moping

Since it the holiday season....my suggestion to Americans is....make a list of every elected politician that is complaining about the tax cuts.....and in the next election vote them out of office. I listened to DEM REP Winer on Huckabee last night.

He and Huckabee debated the tax cuts, Winer was so unhappy that the President could make a compromise of his values and principles like that that. It was a moral outrage that that the wealthy....who had earned their wealth....did not not share it via high taxes that REP Winer could earmark.

My grandfather had a saying for it.....he called it "legalizes stealing". What Winer and Dude forget individual in America are the wealth making sector. Not the Government. It is individuals taking a business and personal risk to make and acquire wealth that progress our society with new products and services.

They can call the Chamber of Commerce a corrupt organization, or pharamcutical company profitteering, or a health insurance company unethical for raising the rates. When it was the DEM and Obama that made the business environment that they function in.

Winer and the liberal then come along and say....we want ours....give us your hard earn profits....so we can give the poor and needy......and get re-elected....because we bought their vote with your taxes. So it is legalizes stealing. Just with allot of rheotric to cover up the crime.
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Dec 19, 2010 4:32 AM CST Affordable health care plan of Obama supports less fortuned America!
Medsummer
MedsummerMedsummerflopping around on the beach, Liguria Italy78 Threads 8 Polls 1,682 Posts
katt1017: How about having the guts to post a poll that gives real alternatives for answers instead of agree with you or look like a bigot?


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Dec 19, 2010 5:30 AM CST Affordable health care plan of Obama supports less fortuned America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
President Obama is now taking the 30% position....opps make that less.

Only 27% of American approve of Michelle Obama's 4.6b Healthy Hunger Free act. Meaning 77% are against. We don't even like the FED government in our food....much less in the Doctor office....the drug stores.......or our bed rooms. grin

What the bill did was give more lunch school funding and set basis standard for nutritional values and physical education standards. When said like that....it does not sound so bad.....so why are near 80% of the country against it?

Because the majority of the country ...feel that these standards should be set by the local school boards....and state governments and not the Fed government. Another example of big brother stepping on the toes of the little brothers.

AH so why locally? Because the country there is a vast difference in food taste. What works in SW USA and the in New England are very different. Sea food in New England is plentiful and fresh. Hispanic foods in the South west are the norm.

What the FED government is doing is to force all school lunch programs to be identical....in nutritional value. The poor kids will get only bread and water under the plan. Enriched bread and zero calorie water mind you.

So again.....the President and the country are at vastly different issue positions. A woman in Texas is saying...go ahead give my child a heated up taco for lunch. Add plenty of hot sauce. I give it to him at home. The woman in Maine is saying....make it a fish sandwhich with plenty of tartar sauce. I do it at home. Why should the schoool be different?

Anyways the Obama's and DEM ....because Nancy Pelosi was knee deep in this bill's creation....have stepped fully into the All American debate on healthy eating. I pity the poor school food service worker that gives the Obama's children anything different than the prescribed FED government bread and water luncheon meal.

They are in for a serious chasing by the First lady......grin
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Dec 19, 2010 6:50 AM CST Affordable health care plan of Obama supports less fortuned America!
leigh2154
leigh2154leigh2154Crossville, Tennessee USA5 Threads 6,408 Posts
Winer and the liberal then come along and say....we want ours....give us your hard earn profits....so we can give the poor and needy......and get re-elected....because we bought their vote with your taxes. So it is legalizes stealing. Just with allot of rheotric to cover up the crime.


Superb!!!!!!!!!thumbs up thumbs up
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Dec 19, 2010 6:52 AM CST Affordable health care plan of Obama supports less fortuned America!
leigh2154
leigh2154leigh2154Crossville, Tennessee USA5 Threads 6,408 Posts
Anyways the Obama's and DEM ....because Nancy Pelosi was knee deep in this bill's creation....have stepped fully into the All American debate on healthy eating. I pity the poor school food service worker that gives the Obama's children anything different than the prescribed FED government bread and water luncheon meal.

They are in for a serious chasing by the First lady......


Super superb !!!!!!thumbs up thumbs up thumbs up


YES WE CAN CANCAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!dancing dancing dancing dancing

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Dec 19, 2010 11:24 AM CST Affordable health care plan of Obama supports less fortuned America!
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
paws4: Being Canadian and enjoying free health care makes me wonder why so many Americans are against it. I would not want a corporation (health ins., company) deciding whether I live or die, after paying them an exorbitant monthly fee.

Free enterprise is the American way, but when it comes to your health they should follow the lead of Canada, England, New Zealand, Belgium, France etc. The reason why Canadians outlive Americans by 4 years is universal health-care.


Americans are stubborn and love an ice pick in the eye - just to save face ............dunno thumbs up thumbs up
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Dec 19, 2010 12:54 PM CST Affordable health care plan of Obama supports less fortuned America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
jvaski: Americans are stubborn and love an ice pick in the eye - just to save face ............


Juan, we just want to pay (taxes) the FED gov't to use the ice pick....
that would just add insult to injury....
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Dec 19, 2010 4:34 PM CST Affordable health care plan of Obama supports less fortuned America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Looks like the nuclear sanctions on Iran....have begun to hit home. Pres A just announced sever gov't cuts back.

Gas prices in Iran has increased by 400%. Gas has been according to many of the experts....Iran's achieles heel.Long lines of vehicles are at the pumps...expecting them soon to be without fuel.

President A sent the militia into the street to keep rioters from congregating. But no violence or rioting has been reported.

So?

My best discription here....this is like playing a game chicken with funnie cars that do 200 mph in 6 second on a mile track. For you that have not heard this unique American auto sports game is played like the following:

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Car A--------------------------><-----------------------------Car B

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Or just think Mad Max movies.

Why do I say that?

Well if Iran (and Iranians) thinks the the hardships are coming solely from the sanctions....they are going sponsor terrorism around the world.
Iranian Pres. A is hoping that the west will blink and give way here.
So he places the country into a austerity and forces the issue.

Simple point is if we are going to get UN inspectors into Iran...to inspect all its sites and programs.....we cannot blink. This is like the Cuban missile crisis....the one that blinks and wants out...loses.

But that Pres. A is expecting internal troubles with his austerity program....is a good start. Maybe he is starting to droop a eye lid.
Now if we can find a knock out punch...with out....violence and military operations.....then world is a safer place tomorrow.

I think the key here is getting Mousavi and his 1000 follower that are facing trials for the election rioting out of jail. If Pres. A releases them it is a important defeat and will place Mousavi into a solid position for a another election effort.

But if Pres. A holds them as chips and cards in the poker match....then it does not go well for us. If we see many new Islamic terrorist attack....which the western intell was saying was being hyped in online chatter for the holidays....then Iran is throwing some punches of it own in this face down.

Let us not blink...our kid's future security depends greatly on a nuclear safe Iran.
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Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Ccincy: I meant Obamacarenot.


Compromised a bout DADT? I really don,t know but I guess a lot repubeheads are going to be very angry now and Me likes this grin ''

Good to see you Cciny wave
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Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
katt1017: From what I have seen the Obama plan does more to help the health care and insurance industries than it does to help the poor.

That is SOP for the left though. They help their rich friends get richer and claim they are helping "the little guy".We need that kind of help about as much as we need a knife in the back.


And what have you seen exactly katt telling this? Your mad guys had it all and still around fifty million americans had no coverage what so ever and still 18000 ameircnas dide a year because of lack of a propper health care coverage because of the price! It is so easy keep talking Katt but what kind of increadible results the ideology of Republicanism got in order to make america more secure and a better country by making coverage for all a human right? what does your "hero" Brewer the Head of the STUPID is doing in Arizona now? Keep killing americnas and calling it heroism and real ameircan values right? Be "young" at least Katt... Care more and feel more! this rotten ideology of selfishness does not suit a free minded young person as ur self, and they are making a fool of you ... still dunno
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JAN_is
JAN_isJAN_isMurcia city centre, Murcia Spain109 Threads 3,849 Posts
The way I see it, from a simplistic point of view of course, is that most Europeans rarely complain about the wonderful health service we have, despite some of its failings, yet many Americans seem to be in constant dispute about their own and complain constantly.

I know which I prefer. If I get ill I´ll receive the best possible treatment. and here in Spain it really is the best, without having to pull out a credit card or proof of health insurance.
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Dec 19, 2010 5:58 PM CST Affordable health care plan of Obama supports less fortuned America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
katt1017: How about having the guts to post a poll that gives real alternatives for answers instead of agree with you or look like a bigot?
Polls here Polls there and so Freaking what Katt? those who oppose this do not have many ideas a bout what they are talking a bout any way so why shall I care? those docs on ur guys side and others from health field are so scared not being able to live in deep going luxury even their decisions and carelessness is killing ameircans ... so why shall any body care a bout forces of selfishness any way? To Hell with those shares and to Hell with huge health corporations are scared of loosing some money for now evne the same companies are going to make good money any way when all counts! Let them use regular knife and forks instead of silver ones... who gives a freaking Damn? tongue
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Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Dude is just tossing us back into the debate of this last summer. This is again bottom up and top down tactics of European liberals. To keep a fire lite under divisive issues that the country has decided.

They see political gain in rioting and in long term political up heavel in a country. The Constitution of the country....can be junked....because it is the stabilizing and forming document. Dude had little problem with ACORN's registering 1000s of illegal voters during the 2008 election.

Like President Obama, he see that as fair political tactic., Anything that works, can be done to better the cause. Including rioting and terrorism.

With a bottom up in the White House, this now is why the liberal left is pressing the Obama administration for more liberal policy making. They work out a compromise deal on the tax cuts, but to liberals is not enough.There was not enough wealth redistribution in it.So............
the and and

Since it the holiday season....my suggestion to Americans is....make a list of every elected politician that is complaining about the tax cuts.....and in the next election vote them out of office. I listened to DEM REP Winer on Huckabee last night.

He and Huckabee debated the tax cuts, Winer was so unhappy that the President could make a compromise of his values and principles like that that. It was a moral outrage that that the wealthy....who had earned their wealth....did not not share it via high taxes that REP Winer could earmark.

My grandfather had a saying for it.....he called it "legalizes stealing". What Winer and Dude forget individual in America are the wealth making sector. Not the Government. It is individuals taking a business and personal risk to make and acquire wealth that progress our society with new products and services.

They can call the Chamber of Commerce a corrupt organization, or pharamcutical company profitteering, or a health insurance company unethical for raising the rates. When it was the DEM and Obama that made the business environment that they function in.

Winer and the liberal then come along and say....we want ours....give us your hard earn profits....so we can give the poor and needy......and get re-elected....because we bought their vote with your taxes. So it is legalizes stealing. Just with allot of rheotric to cover up the crime.


Well... now your guys lost their stupid fight against repealing DADT ... you want to repeal affordable health care act and expect no opposition? Lol TT! Your guys are going to face major opposition a bout this one and are going to eat their shi* back, I asure you laugh

I am seeing a vision a bout some years form now when even Repube heads are going to swear universal health care to get elcted! the same exact thing happened all over Europe almost and in Canada as well and then stupid right winged liers had to lie even more to look firendly a bout Universal plans of "Commies" laugh

Anti Obama Founding fathers blah blah blah! My best suggestion is all repube heads just move to Arizona as told before and declering independent and just kill the poor over there and use body parts to repair the old fat conservative anti human folks you see? Arizona needs you and Brewer would be a perfect woman for you even TT... you can spin for her and enabling her create more civil unrest against benefits of America... alqueda loves her and jurking off when ever looking at her you see? banana laugh

Founding fathers would be ashamed a bout your guys conversing
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ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
JAN_is: The way I see it, from a simplistic point of view of course, is that most Europeans rarely complain about the wonderful health service we have, despite some of its failings, yet many Americans seem to be in constant dispute about their own and complain constantly.

I know which I prefer. If I get ill I´ll receive the best possible treatment. and here in Spain it really is the best, without having to pull out a credit card or proof of health insurance.


And when you sign over a greater percentage of your check to the Spanish gov't? Still happy and content?

All the Eureopean tax rates are higher than in the US. Maybe I should use the past tense there....were higher prior to Obamacare.

Jan, is really that hard for a person to write check monthly for a health insurance premium? It is only done 12 times a year.

Lastly, I would say this....locally they had woman on TV....she was low income....had no health coverage. So when she got a sever cancer, She faced destitution. Then she found local program at Arnold Palmers hospital for women....and the entire cancer cure cost was picked for her.

For many years and for 1000s, the US locals governments and charitable groups has done this with out the FED government intrusion or help.
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ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Well... now your guys lost their stupid fight against repealing DADT ... you want to repeal affordable health care act and expect no opposition? Lol TT! Your guys are going to face major opposition a bout this one and are going to eat their shi* back, I asure you

I am seeing a vision a bout some years form now when even Repube heads are going to swear universal health care to get elcted! the same exact thing happened all over Europe almost and in Canada as well and then stupid right winged liers had to lie even more to look firendly a bout Universal plans of "Commies"

Anti Obama Founding fathers blah blah blah! My best suggestion is all repube heads just move to Arizona as told before and declering independent and just kill the poor over there and use body parts to repair the old fat conservative anti human folks you see? Arizona needs you and Brewer would be a perfect woman for you even TT... you can spin for her and enabling her create more civil unrest against benefits of America... alqueda loves her and jurking off when ever looking at her you see?

Founding fathers would be ashamed a bout your guys


DADT was small battle, Dudester. Check the vote.....many REP voted for its repeal. You got pick your fights when you are the minority party.
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Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: A year now, we will be able to see a study to how many GAYS from this day have joined the military services. And compare that to the percentage of hetro have joined. It should be a interesting comparison.


You have lost it again! You have lost it again! You have lost it again ba ba ba ba baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa tongue laugh

The old war monger dude McCain should now become a real man and talking a bout what happened to him exaclty when young and inoncent amoung all those military guys in Panama and why he hates Gays this way because of his personal life story made him being this out of balance! Did they dood it to him and did he liked when they dood it or what? crying laugh

The man got a serious issue and it is dang sad he have never been taking care of THAT condition uh oh
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Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: President Obama is now taking the 30% position....opps make that less.

Only 27% of American approve of Michelle Obama's 4.6b Healthy Hunger Free act. Meaning 77% are against. We don't even like the FED government in our food....much less in the Doctor office....the drug stores.......or our bed rooms.

What the bill did was give more lunch school funding and set basis standard for nutritional values and physical education standards. When said like that....it does not sound so bad.....so why are near 80% of the country against it?

Because the majority of the country ...feel that these standards should be set by the local school boards....and state governments and not the Fed government. Another example of big brother stepping on the toes of the little brothers.

AH so why locally? Because the country there is a vast difference in food taste. What works in SW USA and the in New England are very different. Sea food in New England is plentiful and fresh. Hispanic foods in the South west are the norm.

What the FED government is doing is to force all school lunch programs to be identical....in nutritional value. The poor kids will get only bread and water under the plan. Enriched bread and zero calorie water mind you.

So again.....the President and the country are at vastly different issue positions. A woman in Texas is saying...go ahead give my child a heated up taco for lunch. Add plenty of hot sauce. I give it to him at home. The woman in Maine is saying....make it a fish sandwhich with plenty of tartar sauce. I do it at home. Why should the schoool be different?

Anyways the Obama's and DEM ....because Nancy Pelosi was knee deep in this bill's creation....have stepped fully into the All American debate on healthy eating. I pity the poor school food service worker that gives the Obama's children anything different than the prescribed FED government bread and water luncheon meal.

They are in for a serious chasing by the First lady......


Even your stupid Hero Rush Limbaugh lost a hundred pounds at least for gud sake! You wanna eat till exploding as a shi* bomb then go on! laugh

No matter what Obamas doing your stupid guys are against it so listening to your guys will be understood up to what those listening want to hear. blah blah
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JAN_is
JAN_isJAN_isMurcia city centre, Murcia Spain109 Threads 3,849 Posts
ttom500: And when you sign over a greater percentage of your check to the Spanish gov't? Still happy and content?

All the Eureopean tax rates are higher than in the US. Maybe I should use the past tense there....were higher prior to Obamacare.

Jan, is really that hard for a person to write check monthly for a health insurance premium? It is only done 12 times a year.

Lastly, I would say this....locally they had woman on TV....she was low income....had no health coverage. So when she got a sever cancer, She faced destitution. Then she found local program at Arnold Palmers hospital for women....and the entire cancer cure cost was picked for her.

For many years and for 1000s, the US locals governments and charitable groups has done this with out the FED government intrusion or help.


Ttom what I pay now in Spain and when I was a UK citizen is something I´m used to and quite happy to pay, and a drop in the ocean given the fact that regardless of any illness I may have in the future excellent treatment will be received and incur no further cost to me or my family.

The woman you mentioned was indeed very fortunate, many in America are not in so far as I can see. Chaeitable organisations cannot help everybody, and few people want to rely on charity nor should be obliged to.

You´re never going to comvince me otherwise, likewise I¨m not going to convince you. handshake
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ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
JAN_is: Ttom what I pay now in Spain and when I was a UK citizen is something I´m used to and quite happy to pay, and a drop in the ocean given the fact that regardless of any illness I may have in the future excellent treatment will be received and incur no further cost to me or my family.

The woman you mentioned was indeed very fortunate, many in America are not in so far as I can see. Chaeitable organisations cannot help everybody, and few people want to rely on charity nor should be obliged to.

You´re never going to comvince me otherwise, likewise I¨m not going to convince you.


Likely not. But is a nioe debate.....LOL.

But when you vacation is cut short....because you did have the funds to cover a longer stay.....remember you got free health insurance. laugh
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JAN_is
JAN_isJAN_isMurcia city centre, Murcia Spain109 Threads 3,849 Posts
ttom500: Likely not. But is a nioe debate.....LOL.

But when you vacation is cut short....because you did have the funds to cover a longer stay.....remember you got free health insurance.


laugh

Ah but I´m a resident of Spain now, and the beauty of being European is that we can have free medical treatment anywhere in Europe, regardless of how long we stay or whether resident. wave
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Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
leigh2154: Winer and the liberal then come along and say....we want ours....give us your hard earn profits....so we can give the poor and needy......and get re-elected....because we bought their vote with your taxes. So it is legalizes stealing. Just with allot of rheotric to cover up the crime.Superb!!!!!!!!!
Still on the dark side Leigh... pretty scarey in deed ... uh oh

Tell me some thing... did some body bite you on neck some time? I mean during a Republican shi* gathering behind the sceans? there is still hope for you even those Republican Wampires got you unfortunatily... go and find a wmpire hunter or an excosrsist and get rid of this bad carma around you thumbs up
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Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
jvaski: Americans are stubborn and love an ice pick in the eye - just to save face ............


Good to see you my friend cheers handshake
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