If you were set arrested and set free on bail from Iran, would you go back for trial? (40)
My answer is NO.
However, I would go to trial in Neutral Switzerland or Great Britain if Iran would say yes to that and bring the other two people to the trial there.
However, I would go to trial in Neutral Switzerland or Great Britain if Iran would say yes to that and bring the other two people to the trial there.
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Great Britain isn't neutral and Switzerland can't.Only The Hague could be a solution.
Medsummer: My answer is NO.
However, I would go to trial in Neutral Switzerland or Great Britain if Iran would say yes to that and bring the other two people to the trial there.
However, I would go to trial in Neutral Switzerland or Great Britain if Iran would say yes to that and bring the other two people to the trial there.
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disregard the obvious blaring grammatical error in the title! 
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Medsummer: My answer is NO.
However, I would go to trial in Neutral Switzerland or Great Britain if Iran would say yes to that and bring the other two people to the trial there.
However, I would go to trial in Neutral Switzerland or Great Britain if Iran would say yes to that and bring the other two people to the trial there.
I said no. However The going to Switzerland or GB won't happen. After all it's Iran's laws they supposedly broke not Switzerland's or GB. When you go to any country and break a law of theirs(even if accidentally) then you should expect to be punished in accordance with their laws.
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The 1999 Swiss Constitution declares the preservation of Switzerland's independence and welfare as the supreme objective of Swiss foreign policy. Below this overarching goal, the Constitution sets five specific foreign policy objectives:
further the peaceful coexistence of nations;
promote respect for human rights, democracy, and the rule of the law;
promote Swiss economic interests abroad;
alleviate need and poverty in the world;
promote preservation of natural resources.
These objectives reflect the Swiss moral obligation to undertake social, economic, and humanitarian activities that contribute to world peace and prosperity. This is manifested by Swiss bilateral and multilateral diplomatic activity, assistance to developing countries, and support for the extension of international law, particularly humanitarian law.
Traditionally, Switzerland has avoided alliances that might entail military, political, or direct economic action. Only in recent years have the Swiss broadened the scope of activities in which they feel able to participate without compromising their neutrality.
further the peaceful coexistence of nations;
promote respect for human rights, democracy, and the rule of the law;
promote Swiss economic interests abroad;
alleviate need and poverty in the world;
promote preservation of natural resources.
These objectives reflect the Swiss moral obligation to undertake social, economic, and humanitarian activities that contribute to world peace and prosperity. This is manifested by Swiss bilateral and multilateral diplomatic activity, assistance to developing countries, and support for the extension of international law, particularly humanitarian law.
Traditionally, Switzerland has avoided alliances that might entail military, political, or direct economic action. Only in recent years have the Swiss broadened the scope of activities in which they feel able to participate without compromising their neutrality.
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Medsummer: TEHRAN, Iran – Iran says it has summoned an American woman to return to the country and stand trial on Feb. 6 along with two other Americans who are still in custody. The three are accused of spying.
The Americans were arrested on July 31, 2009, after crossing the border from northern Iraq's scenic Kurdish region, where their families say they were vacationing and hiking.
Since her release on bail in September, Sarah Shourd has said they did not intentionally cross the unmarked border. She returned to the United States after 14 months in a Tehran jail.
Considering her boyfriend is still there in jail and if she does not go back his chances for freedom greatly diminish would you expect her to go back?
The Americans were arrested on July 31, 2009, after crossing the border from northern Iraq's scenic Kurdish region, where their families say they were vacationing and hiking.
Since her release on bail in September, Sarah Shourd has said they did not intentionally cross the unmarked border. She returned to the United States after 14 months in a Tehran jail.
Considering her boyfriend is still there in jail and if she does not go back his chances for freedom greatly diminish would you expect her to go back?
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If the same situation happened in the United States we would hook the family up with all kinds of social services, free healthcare and food stamps. If the kids were college age we would probably put them thru college for free. Iran really needs to loosen up!
Iran really needs to get a friggin grip.
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NO ! As in it would never ! happen can't see me going there on vacation any time soon
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no!
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Actractorguy: I said no. However The going to Switzerland or GB won't happen. After all it's Iran's laws they supposedly broke not Switzerland's or GB. When you go to any country and break a law of theirs(even if accidentally) then you should expect to be punished in accordance with their laws.
I understand what your saying. I also expect a fair trial as well which being American citizens in Iran gut instincts based on history make me doubt that would happen.
Just supposing Switzerland or Great Britain did agree to hold the trial there. I was not thinking of it being tried by Swiss or UK law since as you say it was not the laws of Switzerland or the UK that were broken. If by some way a court could be convened to be tried by Iranian law and Iran agreed to it, would you go to trial there and abide by the outcome as opposed to going back to Tehran where gut instincts say your not coming back after the trial?
After all...possession is 9/10th's of the law.
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Medsummer: I understand what your saying. I also expect a fair trial as well which being American citizens in Iran gut instincts based on history make me doubt that would happen.
Just supposing Switzerland or Great Britain did agree to hold the trial there. I was not thinking of it being tried by Swiss or UK law since as you say it was not the laws of Switzerland or the UK that were broken. If by some way a court could be convened to be tried by Iranian law and Iran agreed to it, would you go to trial there and abide by the outcome as opposed to going back to Tehran where gut instincts say your not coming back after the trial?
After all...possession is 9/10th's of the law.
Just supposing Switzerland or Great Britain did agree to hold the trial there. I was not thinking of it being tried by Swiss or UK law since as you say it was not the laws of Switzerland or the UK that were broken. If by some way a court could be convened to be tried by Iranian law and Iran agreed to it, would you go to trial there and abide by the outcome as opposed to going back to Tehran where gut instincts say your not coming back after the trial?
After all...possession is 9/10th's of the law.
Yep. But I highly doubt you would get a judge to abide by the laws of Iran.
After all how would it look say for instance that a Swiss Judge had to apply the death penalty as that is the possibly the only penalty in accordance with the law. Also look at it this way. If they were to find them not guilty the Iranian Government would say they didn't follow the law. It's a catch 22 in that instance.
Either outcome will infuriate either side of the debate.
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Actractorguy: Yep. But I highly doubt you would get a judge to abide by the laws of Iran.
After all how would it look say for instance that a Swiss Judge had to apply the death penalty as that is the possibly the only penalty in accordance with the law. Also look at it this way. If they were to find them not guilty the Iranian Government would say they didn't follow the law. It's a catch 22 in that instance.
Either outcome will infuriate either side of the debate.
After all how would it look say for instance that a Swiss Judge had to apply the death penalty as that is the possibly the only penalty in accordance with the law. Also look at it this way. If they were to find them not guilty the Iranian Government would say they didn't follow the law. It's a catch 22 in that instance.
Either outcome will infuriate either side of the debate.
How about an Iranian Judge, prosecutor and lawyers needed to try the case in an open court where the world could see Iranian justice at work? Not behind the smokescreen of politics.
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I have to get back to work so I cannot stay in the thread to discuss the fantasy options created by myself in regards to this.
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Medsummer: How about an Iranian Judge, prosecutor and lawyers needed to try the case in an open court where the world could see Iranian justice at work? Not behind the smokescreen of politics.
In Iran Maybe they could do that but I highly doubt it will happen. It's one great big quagmire. My gut suspicion says they get life but for the good if intent they release them after a few months. Just like North Korea did with that one American kid who crossed their border from china.
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Are they spies probably.You do not enter Iran as a tourist that way.The bail is an easy way out for Iran,isn't it?
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Medsummer: I understand what your saying. I also expect a fair trial as well which being American citizens in Iran gut instincts based on history make me doubt that would happen.
Just supposing Switzerland or Great Britain did agree to hold the trial there. I was not thinking of it being tried by Swiss or UK law since as you say it was not the laws of Switzerland or the UK that were broken. If by some way a court could be convened to be tried by Iranian law and Iran agreed to it, would you go to trial there and abide by the outcome as opposed to going back to Tehran where gut instincts say your not coming back after the trial?
After all...possession is 9/10th's of the law.
A Trial in Switzerland can only happen under Swiss Laws!Just supposing Switzerland or Great Britain did agree to hold the trial there. I was not thinking of it being tried by Swiss or UK law since as you say it was not the laws of Switzerland or the UK that were broken. If by some way a court could be convened to be tried by Iranian law and Iran agreed to it, would you go to trial there and abide by the outcome as opposed to going back to Tehran where gut instincts say your not coming back after the trial?
After all...possession is 9/10th's of the law.
As for going back!
I might be crazy,but I am far from stupid!
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Not only no...I would get back to the west and make so much fuss and noise it would be immposible to ignore. I would bleat all over the papers, rattle every politicians cage I could relentlessly, and take it to the internet. People forget, words are VERY powerful
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Medsummer: How about an Iranian Judge, prosecutor and lawyers needed to try the case in an open court where the world could see Iranian justice at work? Not behind the smokescreen of politics.
No Way!We'd vote out every Idiot even thinking of giving permission to such a Farce!
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Conrad73: No Way!
We'd vote out every Idiot even thinking of giving permission to such a Farce!
We'd vote out every Idiot even thinking of giving permission to such a Farce!
Of course not....
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(Playing Devils Advocate here)
Another way to look at it. How do we know for sure they were not spies? Is is just them saying they weren't?
IF they were CIA or some other Initialed organization they are trained to say they aren't and do it convincingly. Wouldn't be the first time that some young gunge ho people were recruited.
Another way to look at it. How do we know for sure they were not spies? Is is just them saying they weren't?
IF they were CIA or some other Initialed organization they are trained to say they aren't and do it convincingly. Wouldn't be the first time that some young gunge ho people were recruited.
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venusenvy: Not only no...I would get back to the west and make so much fuss and noise it would be immposible to ignore. I would bleat all over the papers, rattle every politicians cage I could relentlessly, and take it to the internet. People forget, words are VERY powerful
I think she would do her boyfriend, who is still in jail there, more good by using the media to publicize his situation and get people of influence to make a fuss about it. Why is she so silent?------ This poll is Archived ------
JeanMarlow: I think she would do her boyfriend, who is still in jail there, more good by using the media to publicize his situation and get people of influence to make a fuss about it. Why is she so silent?
Good question Jeany
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JeanMarlow: I think she would do her boyfriend, who is still in jail there, more good by using the media to publicize his situation and get people of influence to make a fuss about it. Why is she so silent?
It's already been in the media. Plus if you get the government to start interfering you'll have the nay-sayers pitching a bit*h about interfering in something that is none of there business. Again it's a catch 22. Damned if you do damned if you don't.
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Conrad73: A Trial in Switzerland can only happen under Swiss Laws!
As for going back!
I might be crazy,but I am far from stupid!
As for going back!
I might be crazy,but I am far from stupid!
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Iran is on the US 'Do not visit' list, so what the heck were they doing there in the first place - spying? 
If they have broken the law then they have to pay the price. Having said that, if I were her, I wouldn't go back - and that would apply to any country looking for me. I think they possibly were CIA agents and deserved to get caught.
If they have broken the law then they have to pay the price. Having said that, if I were her, I wouldn't go back - and that would apply to any country looking for me. I think they possibly were CIA agents and deserved to get caught.------ This poll is Archived ------
Medsummer: TEHRAN, Iran – Iran says it has summoned an American woman to return to the country and stand trial on Feb. 6 along with two other Americans who are still in custody. The three are accused of spying.
The Americans were arrested on July 31, 2009, after crossing the border from northern Iraq's scenic Kurdish region, where their families say they were vacationing and hiking.
Since her release on bail in September, Sarah Shourd has said they did not intentionally cross the unmarked border. She returned to the United States after 14 months in a Tehran jail.
Considering her boyfriend is still there in jail and if she does not go back his chances for freedom greatly diminish would you expect her to go back?
The Americans were arrested on July 31, 2009, after crossing the border from northern Iraq's scenic Kurdish region, where their families say they were vacationing and hiking.
Since her release on bail in September, Sarah Shourd has said they did not intentionally cross the unmarked border. She returned to the United States after 14 months in a Tehran jail.
Considering her boyfriend is still there in jail and if she does not go back his chances for freedom greatly diminish would you expect her to go back?
If u need a nice long holiday and not sure when ur coming back then be my guest and go back....
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R U FXXXXg mental
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No! A Million Times NO Friggin' Way!
Iran is not on my bucket list of vacations spots that I absolutely must visit before I die. Australia and New Zealand on the other hand.... definitely.
I agree that it does sound odd that the girl is remaining silent. Perhaps there's more to the story.
Iran is not on my bucket list of vacations spots that I absolutely must visit before I die. Australia and New Zealand on the other hand.... definitely.
I agree that it does sound odd that the girl is remaining silent. Perhaps there's more to the story.
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If it were me,I'd have to say:"I might be crazy,but I ain't STUPID"!
As for her Boyfriend,won't make any difference if she goes back or not!
Iran Government is famous for Hostage-Taking!
As for her Boyfriend,won't make any difference if she goes back or not!
Iran Government is famous for Hostage-Taking!
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Trealach01: Iran is on the US 'Do not visit' list, so what the heck were they doing there in the first place - spying? If they have broken the law then they have to pay the price. Having said that, if I were her, I wouldn't go back - and that would apply to any country looking for me. I think they possibly were CIA agents and deserved to get caught.
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If you were set arrested and set free on bail from Iran, would you go back for trial?(Vote Below)
The Americans were arrested on July 31, 2009, after crossing the border from northern Iraq's scenic Kurdish region, where their families say they were vacationing and hiking.
Since her release on bail in September, Sarah Shourd has said they did not intentionally cross the unmarked border. She returned to the United States after 14 months in a Tehran jail.
Considering her boyfriend is still there in jail and if she does not go back his chances for freedom greatly diminish would you expect her to go back?