It appears that Bin Laden wasn't armed indeed and even so good a bullet in his head...I'm not saying the guy was a saint nor am I saying he was right in any of his deeds, but a fair trial is everyone's right even if it's the world's most wanted terrorist the person we're talking about, if the US or any country for that matter starts executing people at their sheer will the world will sucumb to anarchy.
It appears that Bin Laden wasn't armed indeed and even so he got a bullet in his head...I'm not saying the guy was a saint nor am I saying he was right in any of his deeds, but a fair trial is everyone's right even if it's the world's most wanted terrorist the person we're talking about, if the US or any country for that matter starts executing people at their sheer will the world will sucumb to anarchy.
That's just stupid, those were US military forces, if he wasn't armed by then there was no way he could have scaped then managed to get a gun and then gone back to shoot everyone. He could have easily been taken into custody without any unnecessary violence.
artienp: It appears that Bin Laden wasn't armed indeed and even so good a bullet in his head...I'm not saying the guy was a saint nor am I saying he was right in any of his deeds, but a fair trial is everyone's right even if it's the world's most wanted terrorist the person we're talking about, if the US or any country for that matter starts executing people at their sheer will the world will sucumb to anarchy.
Yea? What about the thousands that lost their lives, because of him? Did they get a trial of sorts...nah. Osama got exactly what he deserved.
artienp: That's just stupid, those were US military forces, if he wasn't armed by then there was no way he could have scaped then managed to get a gun and then gone back to shoot everyone. He could have easily been taken into custody without any unnecessary violence.
Who says he wasn't armed? And at what point did they become aware of whether he was armed or not? Taken into Custody for WHAT? Ever been in a situation where Firearms were involved?
TheresMyFriend: Yea? What about the thousands that lost their lives, because of him? Did they get a trial of sorts...nah. Osama got exactly what he deserved.
-JOHN-
The thousands of lives lost on 911 didn't get a fair trial, they were however victims of a ruthless terrorist act. Should GOVERNMENTS act like the terrorists who did that and start killing people by sheer will without any kind of legal procedure? Things gotta happen by the book , justice must be blind.
artienp: That's just stupid, those were US military forces, if he wasn't armed by then there was no way he could have scaped then managed to get a gun and then gone back to shoot everyone. He could have easily been taken into custody without any unnecessary violence.
artienp: The thousands of lives lost on 911 didn't get a fair trial, they were however victims of a ruthless terrorist act. Should GOVERNMENTS act like the terrorists who did that and start killing people by sheer will without any kind of legal procedure? Things gotta happen by the book , justice must be blind.
What friggin' Book? The Police Academy Training Manual?
artienp: The thousands of lives lost on 911 didn't get a fair trial, they were however victims of a ruthless terrorist act. Should GOVERNMENTS act like the terrorists who did that and start killing people by sheer will without any kind of legal procedure? Things gotta happen by the book , justice must be blind.
By the way , I only said the victims of 911 didn't get a fair trial to follow your reasoning, they didn't deserve one of course because they didn't do anything on the first place they should be alive and harmless to this day.
Conrad73: What friggin' Book? The Police Academy Training Manual?
So you find it ok to shoot an unnarmed person instead of giving them a fair trial? It goes against the 6th amendment of the USA (the government that executed bin laden) and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (something that should be valid everywhere)
artienp: So you find it ok to shoot an unnarmed person instead of giving them a fair trial? It goes against the 6th amendment of the USA (the government that executed bin laden) and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (something that should be valid everywhere)
Whoa! How does the United States Constitution extend to a Saudi Enemy Combatant in a Foreign Country? Besides,the Manual states,if in doubt,Shoot! This is the Military,Not the Police,if you know the difference! If they wanted him alive,they could have sent in the FBI,NOT the SEALS!
artienp: So you find it ok to shoot an unnarmed person instead of giving them a fair trial? It goes against the 6th amendment of the USA (the government that executed bin laden) and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (something that should be valid everywhere)
But it's OK for Osama to massacre "unarmed 911 victims" without a trial? What does that go against? Huh?
artienp: So you find it ok to shoot an unnarmed person instead of giving them a fair trial? It goes against the 6th amendment of the USA (the government that executed bin laden) and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (something that should be valid everywhere)
The Human Rights that Piece of Trash extended to those Kenyans,the Sailors on the Cole,and to those People in Shanksville,in the WTC-Towers and in the Pentagon? You're talking uninformed my man!
Trealach01: What do you expect from a bunch of gun-slinging idiots? I'm just waiting for Bin Laden to pop up in some remote mountain and send them a Video "Hey y'all ya missed me DORKS "
Sure glad some of your Irish Compatriots have more sense than you have shown over the months! Hate the US much,do you? Jealous as Hell,hmm?
I find it really annoying that you cant add your somewhat dunderheaded comments on one of the many existing threads on this subject already running. Trolling for attention much?
TheresMyFriend: But it's OK for Osama to massacre "unarmed 911 victims" without a trial? What does that go against? Huh?
-JOHN-
This sets a precedent. This is not about Osama himself, it's about the fact that if the USA does that to him it can do that to anyone without any standards.Besides, everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty, so even though the USA has spent close to 10 years claiming Osama was the master mind behind 911, Osama should have to right to his day in court (as should anyone else accused of anything).
Conrad73: The Human Rights that Piece of Trash extended to those Kenyans,the Sailors on the Cole,and to those People in Shanksville,in the WTC-Towers and in the Pentagon? You're talking uninformed my man!
He was tried by the world found guilty and executed. Hes dead
How much blood did he have on his hands. He was a man of much hatred for the democracies most of us on this forum live in. He ordered the killing of Men women children no matter what faith or none and gorified in it. A man that wanted to cause a clash of civilisation for his warped view of Islam, that did that great religion no help in the west.
He deserved to die and im against the death penalty might sound hypocritical but who cares.
i hope he is being tortured in his own form of hell, he deserved to die
venusenvy: I find it really annoying that you cant add your somewhat dunderheaded comments on one of the many existing threads on this subject already running. Trolling for attention much?
You'll have to appologize me for not finding my own comments dunderheaded and also for not quite seeing the connecting between my profile picture and the forementioned comments.
artienp: This sets a precedent. This is not about Osama himself, it's about the fact that if the USA does that to him it can do that to anyone without any standards.Besides, everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty, so even though the USA has spent close to 10 years claiming Osama was the master mind behind 911, Osama should have to right to his day in court (as should anyone else accused of anything).
Where have you been...NOTICE:Osama Admitted To The Crime & Took Credit For It!
so law site: An unlawful combatant or unprivileged combatant/belligerent is a civilian who directly engages in armed conflict in violation of International Humanitarian Law (IHL) and may be detained or prosecuted under the domestic law of the detaining state for such action. Article 4 A. Prisoners of war, in the sense of the present Convention, are persons belonging to one of the following categories, who have fallen into the power of the enemy:
1. Members of the armed forces of a Party to the conflict as well as members of militias or volunteer corps forming part of such armed forces. 2. Members of other militias and members of other volunteer corps, including those of organized resistance movements, belonging to a Party to the conflict and operating in or outside their own territory, even if this territory is occupied, provided that such militias or volunteer corps, including such organized resistance movements, fulfill the following conditions: (a) That of being commanded by a person responsible for his subordinates; (b) That of having a fixed distinctive sign recognizable at a distance; (c) That of carrying arms openly; (d) That of conducting their operations in accordance with the laws and customs of war. 3. Members of regular armed forces who profess allegiance to a government or an authority not recognized by the Detaining Power. 4. Persons who accompany the armed forces without actually being members thereof, such as civilian members of military aircraft crews, war correspondents, supply contractors, members of labour units or of services responsible for the welfare of the armed forces, provided that they have received authorization from the armed forces which they accompany, who shall provide them for that purpose with an identity card similar to the annexed model. 5. Members of crews [of civil ships and aircraft], who do not benefit by more favourable treatment under any other provisions of international law. 6. Inhabitants of a non-occupied territory, who on the approach of the enemy spontaneously take up arms to resist the invading forces, without having had time to form themselves into regular armed units, provided they carry arms openly and respect the laws and customs of war. B. The following shall likewise be treated as prisoners of war under the present Convention: 1. Persons belonging, or having belonged, to the armed forces of the occupied country... ... Article 5 ... Should any doubt arise as to whether persons, having committed a belligerent act and having fallen into the hands of the enemy, belong to any of the categories enumerated in Article 4, such persons shall enjoy the protection of the present Convention until such time as their status has been determined by a competent tribunal. genaralyy US use An unlawful combatant for killing terrorism so even without court they can kill them read 1942 Quirin case and On 30 July 2002, the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia ruled in Rasul v. Bush, that it did not have jurisdiction because Guantanamo Bay Naval Base is not a sovereign territory of the United States. This decision was appealed to the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, which upheld the decision, (along with a related case in March 2003 — see Al-Odah v. United States). Rasul v. Bush was appealed to the United States Supreme Court on 2 September 2003.
Tomcats2: He was tried by the world found guilty and executed. Hes dead
How much blood did he have on his hands. He was a man of much hatred for the democracies most of us on this forum live in. He ordered the killing of Men women children no matter what faith or none and gorified in it. A man that wanted to cause a clash of civilisation for his warped view of Islam, that did that great religion no help in the west.
He deserved to die and im against the death penalty might sound hypocritical but who cares.
i hope he is being tortured in his own form of hell, he deserved to die
I also think Osama deserved to die, just not that way. States should not lower themselves to the point of shooting unarmed people without any kind of previous legal procedure.
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