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May 8, 2011 9:34 AM CSTUnilateral Bin Laden Operation
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California, USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts

Unilateral Bin Laden Operation(Vote Below)

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The USA was entitled to kill Bin Laden anywhere
29
35%
The USA probably had Pakistan's permission
3
4%
Pakistan didn't know Bin Laden was there
1
1%
Pakistan did know Bin Laden was there
8
10%
The USA was bold to unilaterally make the kill
6
7%
The USA illegally invaded Pakistan for a kill
16
19%
Terrorists should be killed by any means anywhere
17
20%
Killing a terrorist is more important than policy
4
5%
Total Votes
84
Certainly Bin Laden's death seems like a great step towards eliminating major terrorist organization globally - but at what cost ?
Was it right that the USA secretly and unilaterally conducted a secret mission without permission of Pakistan.
Is the USA exempt from following the rules of foreign invasion for it's priorities and missions ?
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May 8, 2011 9:56 AM CST Unilateral Bin Laden Operation
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
jvaski: Certainly Bin Laden's death seems like a great step towards eliminating major terrorist organization globally - but at what cost ?


Millions of Muslims are pissed and not just in the middle east. All I can say is don't go to Chicago. Guess who now owns what was the Sears Tower?

In response to:
Was it right that the USA secretly and unilaterally conducted a secret mission without permission of Pakistan.


Mission, yes. Kill him no. They say they shot his wife in the leg. Immobilizing bin laden would have done the job. And put him on trial. A right everyone is supposed to have. Unless of course the PTB decide otherwise, as they did.

In response to:
Is the USA exempt from following the rules of foreign invasion for it's priorities and missions ?


Diplomatic immunity at it's finest. Can you say above the law. hmmm
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May 8, 2011 10:04 AM CST Unilateral Bin Laden Operation
Paldi5
Paldi5Paldi5unknown, Pennsylvania USA13 Threads 2,376 Posts
Well it's hypocritical to say it, but Osama was an exception to the rule. He is not a head of a sovereign state which makes it easier to assassinate him I suppose. It would have been poetic to put him in a plane without a parachute and then the seals bail out.

The problem now is the precedent that's been set. Palestine better get their state soon or their leadership is in mortal danger.
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May 8, 2011 10:07 AM CST Unilateral Bin Laden Operation
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
Paldi5: Well it's hypocritical to say it, but Osama was an exception to the rule. He is not a head of a sovereign state which makes it easier to assassinate him I suppose. It would have been poetic to put him in a plane without a parachute and then the seals bail out.

The problem now is the precedent that's been set. Palestine better get their state soon or their leadership is in mortal danger.


Which exception are you on about P?

Even Saddam got his day in court, as have every other so called terrorist who blew something up and was caught for allegedly doing so. wine
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May 8, 2011 10:12 AM CST Unilateral Bin Laden Operation
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Bin Laden is still alive. He's touring the U.S.A.
wave
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May 8, 2011 10:15 AM CST Unilateral Bin Laden Operation
Paldi5
Paldi5Paldi5unknown, Pennsylvania USA13 Threads 2,376 Posts
BB_snickers: Which exception are you on about P?

Even Saddam got his day in court, as have every other so called terrorist who blew something up and was caught for allegedly doing so.


Leaving him alive and trying him would have caused many innocent deaths as his people tried to free him. I would expect terror attacks, kidnappings and such goings on and the trial would take years.
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May 8, 2011 10:16 AM CST Unilateral Bin Laden Operation
Paldi5
Paldi5Paldi5unknown, Pennsylvania USA13 Threads 2,376 Posts
galrads: Bin Laden is still alive. He's touring the U.S.A.


Right, he's been spotted at the local 9-11... oh it's called 7-11 here.
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May 8, 2011 10:27 AM CST Unilateral Bin Laden Operation
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
Paldi5: Leaving him alive and trying him would have caused many innocent deaths as his people tried to free him. I would expect terror attacks, kidnappings and such goings on and the trial would take years.


How long it takes would be a moot point if one believes we are all subject to the same law.

And his people freeing him or even trying, would be conjecture me thinks. And that too, would be moot in the eyes of law and right to trial (innocent until proven guilty) as well.

And what innocent deaths are we talking about here. The thousands upon thousands of US, Canadian, Brit, Australian, Muslim men and women who lost their lives already? Or the one's who will lose their lives when revenge takes hold.

The PTB wants 'war' and 'tension' in perpetuity. They have never wanted peace at any cost. That's just a flag they wave to justify the tyranny and loss of life.

cheers If it walks like a duck....
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May 8, 2011 10:30 AM CST Unilateral Bin Laden Operation
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
You mean there are rules that countries have to follow before one country attacks another.
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May 8, 2011 10:33 AM CST Unilateral Bin Laden Operation
llisita777
llisita777llisita777chicago, Illinois USA74 Posts
HE HAVE WHAT HE DESERVE,HE DONT NEED @ DAY IN COURT,I GIVE THE USA PRESIDENT @ BIG --10 YESSSS---banana dancing peace applause
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May 8, 2011 10:33 AM CST Unilateral Bin Laden Operation
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
Ccincy: You mean there are rules that countries have to follow before one country attacks another.


Stop being sensible. scold It could get you elected. laugh
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May 8, 2011 10:36 AM CST Unilateral Bin Laden Operation
Would have liked to see his Face,when he saw what he got as his 72 Voigins!rolling on the floor laughing
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May 8, 2011 10:37 AM CST Unilateral Bin Laden Operation
NCC1968
NCC1968NCC1968Van Nuys, California USA3 Threads 3 Polls 839 Posts
If a man kills in your house and runs to another house do you want the police to stop at the door and ask permission to go get him?....esp when the the owners of the house or not capable of doing anything about it.

Once inside if the police are in danger should they defend themselves to complete the task?

Lotta talkin heads..empty heads......people that neither know the facts nor have ever been in a "hot" situation.
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May 8, 2011 10:39 AM CST Unilateral Bin Laden Operation
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
Conrad73: Would have liked to see his Face,when he saw what he got as his 72 Voigins!




I wonder how long they stay virgins. confused Or do they just keep replacing them once they've been boinked. Or is it like a cat with nine lives thing? cats meow
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May 8, 2011 10:40 AM CST Unilateral Bin Laden Operation
BB_snickers: How long it takes would be a moot point if one believes we are all subject to the same law.

And his people freeing him or even trying, would be conjecture me thinks. And that too, would be moot in the eyes of law and right to trial (innocent until proven guilty) as well.

And what innocent deaths are we talking about here. The thousands upon thousands of US, Canadian, Brit, Australian, Muslim men and women who lost their lives already? Or the one's who will lose their lives when revenge takes hold.

The PTB wants 'war' and 'tension' in perpetuity. They have never wanted peace at any cost. That's just a flag they wave to justify the tyranny and loss of life.

If it walks like a duck....
You squash Ungeziefer!
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May 8, 2011 10:41 AM CST Unilateral Bin Laden Operation
TrueBlue1986
TrueBlue1986TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
jvaski: Certainly Bin Laden's death seems like a great step towards eliminating major terrorist organization globally - but at what cost ?
Was it right that the USA secretly and unilaterally conducted a secret mission without permission of Pakistan.
Is the USA exempt from following the rules of foreign invasion for it's priorities and missions ?


Permission from Pakistan? Pakistan is bordering on becoming a failed state, it is obvious that their president can't keep order within his own ranks and it is also obvious that the people in Pakistan, to a large degree, do not like the West - contrary to the infantile noise and make-believe of Western Liberals.

It's very logical to conclude that informing the Pakistani authorities of the operation would be as good as informing Osama himself.

They did the right thing, and hopefully now we can pull out of Afghanistan sooner.thumbs up
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May 8, 2011 10:42 AM CST Unilateral Bin Laden Operation
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
BB_snickers: Stop being sensible. It could get you elected.



I know I'm bad.laugh
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May 8, 2011 10:43 AM CST Unilateral Bin Laden Operation
Never find him with this Disguise!

Embedded image from another site
uh oh
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May 8, 2011 10:43 AM CST Unilateral Bin Laden Operation
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
The intended question posed was - Does the USA have the right to blast into another country with a secret mission without the permission of that country ? dunno
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May 8, 2011 10:44 AM CST Unilateral Bin Laden Operation
Dadude62
Dadude62Dadude62Elkton, Maryland USA1,120 Posts
Paldi5: Well it's hypocritical to say it, but Osama was an exception to the rule. He is not a head of a sovereign state which makes it easier to assassinate him I suppose. It would have been poetic to put him in a plane without a parachute and then the seals bail out.

The problem now is the precedent that's been set. Palestine better get their state soon or their leadership is in mortal danger.


Headed towards the Sears tower in Chicago perhaps?
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May 8, 2011 10:45 AM CST Unilateral Bin Laden Operation
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
TrueBlue1986: Permission from Pakistan? Pakistan is bordering on becoming a failed state, it is obvious that their president can't keep order within his own ranks and it is also obvious that the people in Pakistan, to a large degree, do not like the West - contrary to the infantile noise and make-believe of Western Liberals.

It's very logical to conclude that informing the Pakistani authorities of the operation would be as good as informing Osama himself.

They did the right thing, and hopefully now we can pull out of Afghanistan sooner.


Ok, then what if another country blasted into your UK at nite for their own ajenda to kill someone ? How would you react ?
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May 8, 2011 10:48 AM CST Unilateral Bin Laden Operation
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
Conrad73: You squash Ungeziefer!


And who decides who is crap or not? When 'above the law' becomes the law, we'll all be killed without trial cos even you would be the target of someone who thinks you're crap. (not me cos I think you're crap I can live with giggle)


I'm surprised with your NWO thought process. laugh Well maybe not.


detective
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May 8, 2011 10:49 AM CST Unilateral Bin Laden Operation
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
jvaski: The intended question posed was - Does the USA have the right to blast into another country with a secret mission without the permission of that country ?


Weren't they already there? A technicality (UN?) but the right is implied yes?
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May 8, 2011 10:55 AM CST Unilateral Bin Laden Operation
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
jvaski: Certainly Bin Laden's death seems like a great step towards eliminating major terrorist organization globally - but at what cost ?
Was it right that the USA secretly and unilaterally conducted a secret mission without permission of Pakistan.
Is the USA exempt from following the rules of foreign invasion for it's priorities and missions ?

I very much doubt in all the "news" that we are hearing about Bin Laden and his death

Was he a good guy??? Hell no !!! Look what he`s done to the entire Muslim World, brought hate and shame on them

Now, what exactly is it that we are doing... we support dictatorship and people who manipulate us ...
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May 8, 2011 10:55 AM CST Unilateral Bin Laden Operation
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
BB_snickers: Weren't they already there? A technicality (UN?) but the right is implied yes?


No one really seems to know if Pakistan knew we were going in for a kill that nite, or if they truly knew Osama was there.

Don't get me wrong .....inside I said "YES" ! thumbs up beer when I heard Osama was killed.
But, my concern is how we're viewed by others for for a unilateral operation in another country. Arrogance ? dunno
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May 8, 2011 11:00 AM CST Unilateral Bin Laden Operation
BB_snickers: And who decides who is crap or not? When 'above the law' becomes the law, we'll all be killed without trial cos even you would be the target of someone who thinks you're crap. (not me cos I think you're crap I can live with ) I'm surprised with your NWO thought process. Well maybe not.
rolling on the floor laughing devil
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May 8, 2011 11:00 AM CST Unilateral Bin Laden Operation
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
Boban1: I very much doubt in all the "news" that we are hearing about Bin Laden and his death

Was he a good guy??? Hell no !!! Look what he`s done to the entire Muslim World, brought hate and shame on them

Now, what exactly is it that we are doing... we support dictatorship and people who manipulate us ...


I have no doubts that Osama deserved to die.....
But by what means ? Is anyone pursuing terrorists allowed their own rights or means to attack them ? Or is it just the USA ?
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May 8, 2011 11:02 AM CST Unilateral Bin Laden Operation
deroderidder
deroderidderderoderidderzwijndrecht, Antwerpen Belgium7 Threads 303 Posts
finally they tracked obama downcheering

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May 8, 2011 11:03 AM CST Unilateral Bin Laden Operation
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
Imagine how bad this mission would have looked had it failed....and how much criticism Obama and the US would have taken ..........
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May 8, 2011 11:12 AM CST Unilateral Bin Laden Operation
Dadude62
Dadude62Dadude62Elkton, Maryland USA1,120 Posts
jvaski: Certainly Bin Laden's death seems like a great step towards eliminating major terrorist organization globally - but at what cost ?
Was it right that the USA secretly and unilaterally conducted a secret mission without permission of Pakistan.
Is the USA exempt from following the rules of foreign invasion for it's priorities and missions ?


This man attacked and killed innocent American citizens, he would have happily killed you and me. I take it personal. He wanted to kill me. There was very little outrage in the Muslim world, they danced and ate candy in their streets, as did I when I saw the news of osama's demise.
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May 8, 2011 11:14 AM CST Unilateral Bin Laden Operation
NCC1968
NCC1968NCC1968Van Nuys, California USA3 Threads 3 Polls 839 Posts
Both the US and PAK are members of the UN. If two people are walking down the street and one sees a threat that the second does not see and handles it then who would complain? PAK didn't know (they said so) about OBL and we did...we did our part to help out a friend.

This BS about rights and sovereignty is nuts.......the guy was a confessed criminal hiding in a UM members state and he could have had a trial if he gave up.

Now maybe PAK will get on the ball and those that still thought that they are safe and can't be found............NOTlaugh
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