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May 25, 2008 3:16 PM CST Assassination
roseofsharon
roseofsharonroseofsharonmanchester, Hampshire, England UK70 Threads 3 Polls 11,702 Posts
tinymac: I dont think so cos his days were already numbered anyway

nice try though


Well, he was a prominent figure and he was murdered.... that's the criteria, isn't it??!!
tongue
May 25, 2008 3:17 PM CST Assassination
Portiea
PortieaPortieaKonstanz, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany114 Threads 14 Polls 5,448 Posts
roseofsharon: Ahhh haa..... thought of another one.

Albeit an execution in effect, an assassination also? Mussolini..??

Captured at the end of WW2 and put to death, hung upside down (in Milan??), with his mistress, if I recall correctly (used to study political history but a long, long time ago) in a public display of his defeat and the end of his facism.

Probably one of the best things to ever happen to Italy (just now need to ban Lambrusco!!!).

Does that count??


Don't know if it 'counts' but it is an interesting observation....thumbs up
May 25, 2008 6:34 PM CST Assassination
mbcasey
mbcaseymbcaseyNorth Myrtle Beach, South Carolina USA78 Threads 7 Polls 21,350 Posts
I agree with Alison...Franz Ferdinand started a domino effect that ultimately led to the cold war. From WWI and the disasterous aftermath which led to the rise of Hitler and then the Iron Curtain.

Like it or not, history will show that the 20th century was the most progressive century in history and it started with Ferdinand's assassination. We have a hectic world today, but the 20th century changed the world for the better. JMO
May 25, 2008 8:54 PM CST Assassination
solitare
solitaresolitareBariloche, Rio Negro Argentina106 Threads 6,639 Posts
mbcasey: I agree with Alison...Franz Ferdinand started a domino effect that ultimately led to the cold war. From WWI and the disasterous aftermath which led to the rise of Hitler and then the Iron Curtain.

Like it or not, history will show that the 20th century was the most progressive century in history and it started with Ferdinand's assassination. We have a hectic world today, but the 20th century changed the world for the better. JMO



Absolutely. The assassination of Archduke Ferdinand was the pivotal moment that affected virtually every nation on Earth at that time as it directly led to the fist World War. Indeed it was a World War in many aspects from military conflicts, to entire social systems collapsing and new ones forming, along with new countries which is still on going and in several trace their evolution back to the effects of World War 1.
The assassination of Julius Caesar is but a trivial, localized matter for what became Italy.
His assassination merely postponed the inevitable which was already well under way, the changing of the Roman Republic to an Imperial power. Caesar would merely have had the position of Emperor sooner. The Senators and other Generals and Consuls that urged and pushed for Imperial status were not assassinated. They continued as before and got their Imperial Empire.
It is pure speculation that had he lived, Brittain, Ireland , Scotland and Wales would have been conquered. Given the numbers involved of all the natives, the 'generalship' of the Roman commanders and the internal politics at the time, it is very doubtful that would have happened, as many seem to forget, Brittain was being 'settled' by waves of invading Saxon tribes and Ingels from Germania. being pushed west from even more invasions from the east, the Gothic tribes. Had Caesar tried to cross the Rhine, the slaughter of the Roman Legions by the Germanic tribes would have begun sooner and therefore, may have, actually ended the Roman Empire all the sooner. Alaric would have have been too late to destroy it once and for all. Either way, our ancestors turned poor Italy into , really, what is tantamount to a third world country living only on it's great Imperial heritage of the past...and basically still does...same as Greece, same as Egypt, ancient India and so many more. IMO
All the others listed were localized tragedies of varying degrees with perhaps the exception if Gandhi who's philosophies of non violent confrontation had a profound effect on some, not many, but some who tried to follow in his path when confronting the State over issues of both human and civil rights against an entrenched fascist dictatorship masquerading as the old benevolent uncle or father figure. At least Mandela was allowed to live when he could have so easily been assassinated...
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