i think that there better to gather because UK has a lot of power in the eu but if the Scot go it alone it will weaken there trading power of the UK which and as Ireland trading ally mean we will all get hit as well.
And it will take a number of years for the Scot to set up them self up when Ireland got independence we were very poor for more than 50 years the scot will take a hit and England as well meaning Ireland will be hit are income just like the other two if it ant broke don't fix it.
if i had a vote id vote no better gather and in my opin it all about power not with being better off with this that scot pm fella.
mjpd67: Sep 18th Will they retain sterling i wonder
if scotland was a small county and small population it won,t matter much but given the size and population they would need there there own money
when ireland got independent we had to set up are own currency unless the do a deal were they keep letting the uk to run the eccic but the Scot cant have that one of the think the Scot want to get rid of
Keeneye101: if scotland was a small county and small population it won,t matter much but given the size and population they would need there there own money
when ireland got independent we had to set up are own currency unless the do a deal were they keep letting the uk to run the eccic but the Scot cant have that one of the think the Scot want to get rid of
independence might come at a very high price time will tell
DazzleDazeOPa river bog hill road, Meath Ireland264 posts
mjpd67: independence might come at a very high price time will tell
Perhaps - but they will be free to choose the path to their own Celtic destiny not Anglo Saxon exploitation (as is the current status quo) ...and they're a nation of grit and innovation, so they'll do just fine methinks
DazzleDazeOPa river bog hill road, Meath Ireland264 posts
mjpd67: Sep 18th Will they retain sterling i wonder
they have their own £ ~ all they have to do is 'par' it's value to another currency (the US $ maybe because of oil revenues, perhaps the Chinese yuan- best alternative) - watch the share prices of Scottish company's soar if an aye- sterling will take a hit if Scotland leaves the UK and they opt out of monetary union...the real reason the brits want a no vote
Hopefully the Scottish people will vote for Independence in 15 days time, the opinion polls are narrowing although the Unionist side would still be favourites.
Pensioners seem to be the age group most opposed to Independence as they are worried about their pensions if Scotland votes YES.
DazzleDaze: Perhaps - but they will be free to choose the path to their own Celtic destiny not Anglo Saxon exploitation (as is the current status quo) ...and they're a nation of grit and innovation, so they'll do just fine methinks
Scotland has been polluted by Socialist dependency for the last 70-80 years, It may be close but I don't think the majority of Scots have the balls to vote for Independence.
It`s a yes absolutely, it`s about the freedom, they will decide if they want to be named Scotland, if they want to run their country, what currency they want to base their economy, and they`ll have to live with it
henonpause: Am there next week, had my vaccinations and all brought up to date
Be careful up in it big clean up with the homeless and junkies trying to brush the lower classes aside not a good thing for rich yanks to be looking at
mjpd67: Be careful up in it big clean up with the homeless and junkies trying to brush the lower classes aside not a good thing for rich yanks to be looking at
The polls suggest that the majority vote will be no to independence, but I would absolutely love a yes vote just to seriously piss off our Ulster scots, sash wearing brethren across the border.
DazzleDazeOPa river bog hill road, Meath Ireland264 posts
stanley8m: The polls suggest that the majority vote will be no to independence, but I would absolutely love a yes vote just to seriously piss off our Ulster scots, sash wearing brethren across the border.
stanley8m: The polls suggest that the majority vote will be no to independence, but I would absolutely love a yes vote just to seriously piss off our Ulster scots, sash wearing brethren across the border.
The 1916 Societies are an emerging political, cultural and historical movement in Ireland founded in 2009 to oppose the further running down of the republican struggle, with the specific remit of securing the legacy of those who gave their lives in the cause of Irish freedom and ensuring the preservation of the republican tradition on that basis. We are an Irish separatist movement who campaign for an all-Ireland referendum to resolve the partition of our country and its constitutional status and believe the Irish republic as declared in the 1916 Proclamation, later ratified in the 1918 General Election only to be usurped and partitioned by military force following a campaign of violence and repression by the occupying British government of the day, should be a sovereign independent state. We are committed to fostering and promoting Irish Unity in the belief that the Irish people have an inherent right to self-determination and that this basic right continues to be forcibly denied. Our strategy is to build support for an inclusive 32-County democratic plebiscite to determine the national aspirations of all the Irish people, free from external political interference and regardless of artificial lines of demarcation drawn by the British government in Ireland at the time of partition. Our movement, though relatively young, is already at an advanced stage and is the fastest growing of its kind in this country at present and has been for a considerable period of time. We are currently engaged in a wide range of work at the political, cultural and educational level and are already beginning to see dividends arise from our efforts. It is clear to us that an appetite for reunification does exist across this island and as the centenary of the 1916 Rising approaches we can only envisage this increasing in the period ahead. Ultimately our hope is that we can help channel the energies and will of the Irish people into and through a democratic process that can see those energies fulfil their potential and see the democratic will of the people realised in full.
What impact do you think a Yes vote would have on politics in NI o6c?
A ‘Yes’ vote for Scotland would likely introduce a fresh dynamic into Irish politics around the issue of partition and the British sovereign claim to the six-counties. That’s certainly what the minimal hope of the 1916 Societies would be. Beyond that we believe a Scottish secession from the Union can set in train a process leading ultimately to a British withdrawal from Ireland and Irish reunification. And no doubt Wales would likely follow suit. We could very well be witnessing the end of a long period in history whereby the London government has exercised its domineering power to effectively subjugate and control those countries adjoining and adjacent to the borders of England, to bring them under the remit of the Crown and prevent them from controlling their own sovereign affairs.
Phoenix: 1916 SOCIETIES ON UPCOMING SCOTTISH REFERENDUMWho are the 1916 Societies?
The 1916 Societies are an emerging political, cultural and historical movement in Ireland founded in 2009 to oppose the further running down of the republican struggle, with the specific remit of securing the legacy of those who gave their lives in the cause of Irish freedom and ensuring the preservation of the republican tradition on that basis. We are an Irish separatist movement who campaign for an all-Ireland referendum to resolve the partition of our country and its constitutional status and believe the Irish republic as declared in the 1916 Proclamation, later ratified in the 1918 General Election only to be usurped and partitioned by military force following a campaign of violence and repression by the occupying British government of the day, should be a sovereign independent state. We are committed to fostering and promoting Irish Unity in the belief that the Irish people have an inherent right to self-determination and that this basic right continues to be forcibly denied. Our strategy is to build support for an inclusive 32-County democratic plebiscite to determine the national aspirations of all the Irish people, free from external political interference and regardless of artificial lines of demarcation drawn by the British government in Ireland at the time of partition. Our movement, though relatively young, is already at an advanced stage and is the fastest growing of its kind in this country at present and has been for a considerable period of time. We are currently engaged in a wide range of work at the political, cultural and educational level and are already beginning to see dividends arise from our efforts. It is clear to us that an appetite for reunification does exist across this island and as the centenary of the 1916 Rising approaches we can only envisage this increasing in the period ahead. Ultimately our hope is that we can help channel the energies and will of the Irish people into and through a democratic process that can see those energies fulfil their potential and see the democratic will of the people realised in full.What impact do you think a Yes vote would have on politics in NI o6c?
A ‘Yes’ vote for Scotland would likely introduce a fresh dynamic into Irish politics around the issue of partition and the British sovereign claim to the six-counties. That’s certainly what the minimal hope of the 1916 Societies would be. Beyond that we believe a Scottish secession from the Union can set in train a process leading ultimately to a British withdrawal from Ireland and Irish reunification. And no doubt Wales would likely follow suit. We could very well be witnessing the end of a long period in history whereby the London government has exercised its domineering power to effectively subjugate and control those countries adjoining and adjacent to the borders of England, to bring them under the remit of the Crown and prevent them from controlling their own sovereign affairs.The rest of the article can be found here...
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