BP = dumb? ( Archived) (28)

May 15, 2010 4:53 AM CSTBP = dumb?
ahso47
ahso47ahso47Chur, Grisons, Switzerland6 Threads 3 Polls 20 Posts

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As it took BP ~ 4 weeks to find out that the simplest way is to suck out the oil, how would you rate that?
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May 15, 2010 5:40 AM CST BP = dumb?
Tulefel
TulefelTulefelGöteborg, Vastra Gotaland Sweden24 Threads 1 Polls 2,848 Posts
ahso47: As it took BP ~ 4 weeks to find out that the simplest way is to suck out the oil, how would you rate that?


Why didn’t you tell them the easiest way 4 weeks ago?

To know how to reduce damage of this scale and not tell – I’d rate it as evil.
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May 15, 2010 6:54 AM CST BP = dumb?
Englishman55
Englishman55Englishman55Salisbury, Wiltshire, England UK31 Threads 2 Polls 6,405 Posts
ahso47: As it took BP ~ 4 weeks to find out that the simplest way is to suck out the oil, how would you rate that?

What makes you think it took them 4 weeks to figure it out.

It's possible they already knew the solution, but it took 4 weeks to get the machinery/systems in place to undertake such a task. !

Large oil companies do not need such disasters as it blackens their name, costs them millions and affects their future business, so I do not think they would have spent 4 weeks "sitting on their hands".

They would have been doing everything possible to put things in place to stop this disaster, even working 24/7 for 4 weeks to get the right hardware in place, even if it had to be manufactured.

It's also possible that the hardware was already available, just not in the same place. Could have taken them 4 weeks to get it on site. dunno

What I do know is that your statement is only an assumption, not backed up be facts. doh and so easy for you to make.
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May 15, 2010 6:58 AM CST BP = dumb?
hathor
hathorhathorAltstetten/Stettbach, Zurich Switzerland10 Threads 3 Polls 214 Posts
I don't think so.

This platform was operated by a contractor.
It's still unknown who or what caused this accident.
Maybe it was sabotage or a terror attack, who knows.

I am sure they are doing everything possible they can think of to solve the problem and protect the environment from further damage.

A working solutions hasn't been found yet.
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May 15, 2010 1:03 PM CST BP = dumb?
Lillym
LillymLillymSliema, Majjistral Malta33 Threads 3,391 Posts
I don't think BP are dumb, not at all. The company has been operating for years and I am sure they are doing their utomost to find a solution. Not a nice situation, let's hope that a solution is found soon.
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May 15, 2010 1:55 PM CST BP = dumb?
BlainX
BlainXBlainXmansfield, Ohio USA205 Threads 188 Polls 1,424 Posts
Government Interference causes delay in actions...stuck

BP =Black Gold/oil= Car's, trucks, motorcycles moving forward.
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May 29, 2010 2:52 AM CST BP = dumb?
theduke1980
theduke1980theduke1980Brighton, East Sussex, England UK51 Threads 2 Polls 590 Posts
BP cant be dumb, they are the biggest drilling company in the world, but they do keep dumb americans moving!!!
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May 29, 2010 3:16 AM CST BP = dumb?
theduke1980: BP cant be dumb, they are the biggest drilling company in the world, but they do keep dumb americans moving!!!
And all the THICK Englishmen!laugh
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May 29, 2010 3:25 AM CST BP = dumb?
theduke1980
theduke1980theduke1980Brighton, East Sussex, England UK51 Threads 2 Polls 590 Posts
Conrad73: And all the THICK Englishmen!
rolling on the floor laughing laugh
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May 29, 2010 3:52 AM CST BP = dumb?
Englishman55
Englishman55Englishman55Salisbury, Wiltshire, England UK31 Threads 2 Polls 6,405 Posts
Conrad73: And all the THICK Englishmen!

And what about the "thin" ones...... we like to keep moving too
cool
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May 29, 2010 3:52 AM CST BP = dumb?
CASA157
CASA157CASA157foggia, Apulia Italy11 Posts
YES, BP DUMB.
BP HAS DONE NOTHIG TO PREVENT THE SPREADING OF OIL IN THE GULF,
AND SHOULD BE HELD RESPONSABLE FOR THAT.
THE OIL COMES OUT OF THE GUSHER AT A TREMENDOUS SPEED, BP FAILED TO SEAL IT WITH THE SPECIAL CHAMBER THAT HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED, ALSO BECAUSE OF THE DIFFICULTIES TO OPERATE AT 1500 METERS UNDER THE SURFACE. WHAT THEY COULD HAVE DONE IS CONTROL THE SPREADING OF THE OIL IN THE GULF BY SIMPLY PLACING SOMETHING LIKE HUGE SOCK AT A SMALLER DEPTH LIKE 1000 METERS OPERATING CONDITION MORE
FAVORABLE. IN THIS MANNER THE OIL BEFORE STARTS TO SPREAD WOULD FLOW IN THE SOCK LIKE CONDUIT DIRECTING THE OIL TO THE SURFACE
WHERE CAN EASELY PUMPED ONTO TANKERS.
MEANTIME A MORE SUITABLE SOLUTION COULD HAVE BEEN FOUND AND AT THE SAME TIME A REDUCED NATURAL DISASTER THAT IS DESTROYING MARINE AND LAND LIFE. CLEAN UP WILL INVOLVE YEARS AHEAD, TO RESTORE ORIGINAL STATE OF THE ENVIROMENT IT IS GOING TO BE HARD.
NEGLIGENCE...........
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May 29, 2010 4:30 AM CST BP = dumb?
Englishman55: And what about the "thin" ones...... we like to keep moving too
They are mostly walking,or they would be Thick too!laugh
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May 29, 2010 4:32 AM CST BP = dumb?
CASA157: YES, BP DUMB.
BP HAS DONE NOTHIG TO PREVENT THE SPREADING OF OIL IN THE GULF,
AND SHOULD BE HELD RESPONSABLE FOR THAT.
THE OIL COMES OUT OF THE GUSHER AT A TREMENDOUS SPEED, BP FAILED TO SEAL IT WITH THE SPECIAL CHAMBER THAT HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED, ALSO BECAUSE OF THE DIFFICULTIES TO OPERATE AT 1500 METERS UNDER THE SURFACE. WHAT THEY COULD HAVE DONE IS CONTROL THE SPREADING OF THE OIL IN THE GULF BY SIMPLY PLACING SOMETHING LIKE HUGE SOCK AT A SMALLER DEPTH LIKE 1000 METERS OPERATING CONDITION MORE
FAVORABLE. IN THIS MANNER THE OIL BEFORE STARTS TO SPREAD WOULD FLOW IN THE SOCK LIKE CONDUIT DIRECTING THE OIL TO THE SURFACE
WHERE CAN EASELY PUMPED ONTO TANKERS.
MEANTIME A MORE SUITABLE SOLUTION COULD HAVE BEEN FOUND AND AT THE SAME TIME A REDUCED NATURAL DISASTER THAT IS DESTROYING MARINE AND LAND LIFE. CLEAN UP WILL INVOLVE YEARS AHEAD, TO RESTORE ORIGINAL STATE OF THE ENVIROMENT IT IS GOING TO BE HARD.
NEGLIGENCE...........
JHC,another Oil-Expert!With a stuck CAPSLOCK at that!laugh
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May 31, 2010 3:36 AM CST BP = dumb?
ahso47
ahso47ahso47Chur, Grisons Switzerland6 Threads 3 Polls 20 Posts
Such managers should be imprisonned! professor
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May 31, 2010 8:16 AM CST BP = dumb?
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
ahso47: Such managers should be imprisonned!
thumbs up .. AND all their assets impounded by government ... AND they never get parole ... AND whatever else terrible thing anyone can think of for them .......

So now ..... every little creature living in that area is going to become extinct?

I wonder what the extra-terrestrials are gonna do about all this oil and other muck being spewed all over the earth?transport shock ... all in the name of "transport" and "technology"!

Oh, and, Shell are busy drilling up in Alaska ... hahahaaaaaa..... and the Polar Bears are eating each other cause they got no more food ........drinking
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May 31, 2010 9:08 AM CST BP = dumb?
smoky: .. AND all their assets impounded by government ... AND they never get parole ... AND whatever else terrible thing anyone can think of for them .......

So now ..... every little creature living in that area is going to become extinct?

I wonder what the extra-terrestrials are gonna do about all this oil and other muck being spewed all over the earth? ... all in the name of "transport" and "technology"!

Oh, and, Shell are busy drilling up in Alaska ... hahahaaaaaa..... and the Polar Bears are eating each other cause they got no more food ........
Probably dump more muck!
Can't have the Cake and eat it too.
My Keyboard and other Things would look exceedingly stupid without Oilderived Plastic.
Murphy was just extremely busy in the Gulf.
Whatever could have gone wrong did!frustrated uh oh mumbling
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May 31, 2010 9:46 AM CST BP = dumb?
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
Conrad73: Probably dump more muck!
Can't have the Cake and eat it too.
My Keyboard and other Things would look exceedingly stupid without Oilderived Plastic.
Murphy was just extremely busy in the Gulf.
Whatever could have gone wrong did!


Well, darl, think about it ........

.... without plastic, we would all be SO happy and content....

We would not know about the Tsunamis and Earthquakes and Volcanos in other lands! We would only know what is taking place around us ....... cause we could only hear the drum signals! .....while we eat local food off Banana Leaves with our fingers ... dressed in our personally woven clothes .....munching with out last two teeth (heaven is: that the last two teeth are opposing ones! hahaa) ...... and when "our end time comes" we get dumped out in the hills/forest to feed the animals, instead of having plastic tubes shoved down our throats and being hooked up to machines and fed pharmaceuticals ........

Wonder what the price of a nice sized cave will be?drinking
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May 31, 2010 10:20 AM CST BP = dumb?
gussi
gussigussiVilters-Wangs, St Gallen Switzerland12 Threads 2 Polls 4,032 Posts
Conrad73: And all the THICK Englishmen!


hence the name British Petroleum

rolling on the floor laughing
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May 31, 2010 10:41 AM CST BP = dumb?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
BP = dumb?


No, Anybody who doesn't realize this is just another scam disaster to push the globalist agenda = dumb.
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May 31, 2010 10:49 AM CST BP = dumb?
smoky: Well, darl, think about it ........

.... without plastic, we would all be SO happy and content....

We would not know about the Tsunamis and Earthquakes and Volcanos in other lands! We would only know what is taking place around us ....... cause we could only hear the drum signals! .....while we eat local food off Banana Leaves with our fingers ... dressed in our personally woven clothes .....munching with out last two teeth (heaven is: that the last two teeth are opposing ones! hahaa) ...... and when "our end time comes" we get dumped out in the hills/forest to feed the animals, instead of having plastic tubes shoved down our throats and being hooked up to machines and fed pharmaceuticals ........

Wonder what the price of a nice sized cave will be?
Lets hope those Last Two are Opposing Ones!rolling on the floor laughing
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May 31, 2010 2:43 PM CST BP = dumb?
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
Conrad73: Lets hope those Last Two are Opposing Ones!
JA! If the last two teeth you own dont meet, then you REALLY got problems! Time to ship out!
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May 31, 2010 4:07 PM CST BP = dumb?
smoky: JA! If the last two teeth you own dont meet, then you REALLY got problems! Time to ship out!
Or just GUM IT!rolling on the floor laughing
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Jun 5, 2010 3:59 AM CST BP = dumb?
ahso47
ahso47ahso47Chur, Grisons Switzerland6 Threads 3 Polls 20 Posts
I'd stick the head of any BP manager into the oil on the beach, so that they learn to feel like a Pelican.
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Jun 7, 2010 8:47 AM CST BP = dumb?
Bardawulf
BardawulfBardawulfin NRW, Nordrhein-Westfalen Germany20 Posts
ahso47: I'd stick the head of any BP manager into the oil on the beach, so that they learn to feel like a Pelican.


Hah! I bet, they wouldn't mind much of that, since they got used to stick their heads into each others asses. laugh
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Jun 7, 2010 11:27 AM CST BP = dumb?
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
The most pathetic part of this whole parcel is that it all seems to boil down to MONEY. They just pay their billion dollar fines - stuff the environment.

Those marshes are never going to recover - think of the millions of tiny indigenous insects and worms being destroyed, not just the birdlife.
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Jun 7, 2010 8:32 PM CST BP = dumb?
Bardawulf
BardawulfBardawulfin NRW, Nordrhein-Westfalen Germany20 Posts
Yep, sadly.

If you imagine that only 1 drop of oil contaminates about 500 to 1,000 litres of water, then u soon will imagine, how serious that already is.

Just don't want to imagine to what that might lead in near future. Even if that water is no drinking water, it's gonna destroy much more than 'many' animals and aquatic plants.
Maybe whole genera...


And just figure what's going to happen to all those states at the coast, which will be reached by the oil - now, in the summer time! Tourism will be much less in those regions, for sure.

Would BP have to pay for that lack of (expected)income, what - in usual circumstances - would have been earned (compared to past years profit for example)? If they had to, they wouldn't be able to pay all that, anyway.
So, that'll be another financial problem the affected states had to deal with, in addition to the high costs to cleanse everything.
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Jun 10, 2010 4:07 PM CST BP = dumb?
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixSarkoville, Ile-de-France France110 Threads 32 Polls 2,591 Posts
smoky: Oh how funny!..... Like I said ... MONEY MONEY MONEY. Aint gonna be much use to have a big fat roll of money when there`s NO food to buy with it ..... or just plain NO food.



Thats what GM foods is about...maybe one day Big Mama, kicks us mere mortals in to touch. How are we to survive? And with green backs you can invest in GM foods and make more money (and giving employment)...

Anyhow BP didn't plan it and the big O is making a mountain out of a mole hill..
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Jun 11, 2010 9:33 AM CST BP = dumb?
Bardawulf
BardawulfBardawulfin NRW, Nordrhein-Westfalen Germany20 Posts
Phoenix: And what about when big mama nature unleases her forces against us mere mortals??? The volcano in Iceland is doing more damage..The earth quake in Haiti...


Hm, u might be right at first thought, but...

The outbreak of the volcano and even the earthquake have natural causes and have ever been part of those regions - differing in periods (how long it takes, till it happens again) and in their intensity.
But that oil-'crisis' was a cause of human failure. Oil, naturally, was never meant to reach the surface. So, if it wouldn't be pumped up, something like that could never (or hardly ever) happen.
And: It would take lotsa decades until all nature (influenced by the oil) has recovered(without human help). Maybe now, the damage, which was dealt in those catastrophes, seems to be much more than that of the oil, but those actions ended - the oil is still there and deals damage to nature.



Phoenix: In the future (not to near distant)...Hurricane season starts and that help break up the oil spill quicker than you think.


How should that work?
I'd say, the oil would rather get dispersed even more that way...



Phoenix: But the are doing everything possible to fix it ASAP..and they are paying fisher men 1,200 greenbacks A DAY for loss of earning's...And the fishermans take home pay was no more than 1,000 PER MONTH...



Ahhh, LOL!
Sorry, but u did't really read that article, did u?


First of all, it's very obvious that the article is yellow press. Already the beginning sounds like taken from a bad criminal story:

"High winds and rain squalls buffet me as I walk along the beach on the remote Louisiana barrier island which is on the front line of the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico."

That's nothing I'd call serious!



To go on with your statement about the 1,200 Dollars payment:

"Ma’am, I hate to say anything good about BP,’ I was told by a fisherman who asked not to be identified, because he is collecting $1,200 a day by the company to skim oil."

Hah!
"paying fisher men 1,200 greenbacks A DAY for loss of earning"

They make em work and clear the oil for a price (I'd bet!) professional companies with special(adequate) equipment wouldn't do at all.
Anyway, the payment is not "for loss of earnings"!


And that: "fishermans take home pay was no more than 1,000 PER MONTH"
isn't too much believable, if it comes from an unknown source. Wonder whether that fisherman exists anyway...





ps: about the volcano in iceland: scientist state, that the volcano has ever broke out, shortly (very few years) before the other one - the bigger volcano - broke out. And that volcano would reach a much times higher intensity.

Imagine this horror scenario:
The oil can't be stopped breaking through and more and more gets out for years. Poisoning most of the ocean, spreading all over the world. And then, iceland's big brother breaks out. Hot pieces of lava are burst hundreds, maybe thousands of miles away. Reaching the 'oil fields' an enflaming them.
Alot dense smoke - especially in reach of the volcano.

very mad devilvery mad Say welcome to hell! very mad devilvery mad



laugh rolling on the floor laughing
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Jun 12, 2010 11:42 PM CST BP = dumb?
haunebu2
haunebu2haunebu2Broadstairs, Kent, England UK4 Threads 1,910 Posts
B.P. senior management created the catastrophe by cutting financial corners in the first instance. The Commissioning Engineers should have checked that the pipleline would take at least 50% higher than the operating pressure as a minimum safety margin. Even it is was sub-contracted they too had the obligation to see it was fit for purpose.

People with low incomes are bound to exploit the situation for financial gain in cases like that as it is human nature.
I say good luck to anyone who gets $1200 a day.
The damage that innocent people have sufferd and will suffer due to the environmental damage is incalculable at present.
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