"No they are not. If they were, Trump or his counsel would HAVE to be there. The decision to impeach was the result of the investigation performed and the vote afterwards. Impeachment then moves to requires a trial in the senate. In the House, there was no requirement for a defense team. Indeed, ALL the representatives COULD have voted to impeach. During a trial one has to have the opportunity to defend. This is the last I will argue about this. If you still don't get it, I am wasting my time arguing this with you."
YES, THEY ARE Jim. And both are different from a criminal trial(again, obviously). And that actually you mention it, Trump's counsel SHOULD have been present during the House Proceedings, though as we know the Totalitarian Democrats - the House writes the rules and has the sole power of impeachment - DENIED their presence(just one of a number of highly unprecedented and highly unfair matters as a part of their unfair process). The House Democrats - led my Messrs Pelosi, Nadler & Schiff - have brought immense disgrace on themselves. Completely deranged by their desire to remove Trump by any means necessary, they have failed in their duty as the Legislative Branch, not to mention National Security matters have suffered greatly also as a result of this obsession. The only thing they represent is a refusal to accept and adapt to the changing reality. They are stuck, screaming and shouting, while the rest of the world is determined to move forward. However, it is their choice. And it will be every American's choice come November of this year.
NOPE. House proceedings are to IMPEACH. Senate proceedings are to decide whether to REMOVE as a result. Both are trials. The verdict in each case has different implications though(obviously).
He will be re-elected. The recent election in Britain - much like Brexit was in 2016 - is a harbinger of what is to come. People detest craziness. And the left-wing in America is imploding upon itself. Trump's re-election is necessary. And the world won't end.
mic you really think Trump will dump Pence for Haley? I can't see it myself. Pence has been an extremely loyal and consistent VP. Why would Trump dump him? Could risk evangelical votes. I can see Haley being involved in the re-election campaign, but not as VP pick.
"The following statement is attributed to @ChiefPentSpox : At approximately 1730 EST on Jan. 7, Iran launched at least a dozen ballistic missiles against U.S. military & coalition forces in Iraq. It is clear that these missiles were launched from Iran & targeted at least two Iraqi military bases hosting U.S. military & coalition personnel at Al-Assad & Irbil. We are working on initial battle damage assessments. In recent days & in response to Iranian threats & actions, the DoD has taken all appropriate measures to safeguard our personnel & partners. These bases have been on high alert due to indications that the Iranian regime planned to attack our forces & interests in the region. As we evaluate the situation & our response, we will take all necessary measures to protect & defend U.S. personnel, partners, & allies in the region. Due to the dynamic nature of the situation, we will continue to provide updates as they become available."
Oh by the way mic, the odds on Bern getting the Crat nomination have HALVED since i put my money on him Could be on for a nice little payout if he ends up gettin' it
Yep, mic, spot on. And dare i say corporate Democrats would rather see the Don re-elected than see Sanders or Warren take the hot seat. Everyone knows the lengths the DNC will go to rig things the way they want it - 2016 leaked emails showed that, as well as corporate Democrat media which doesn't give a fair shake to many of the candidates, in terms of airtime, manipulation of graphs etc.
"It makes one wonder whether they are being controlled, rather than being able to vote their conscience."
Are you sure you're not talking about Pelosi and Democrats? Who threatened not to support (including financially) any Democrat representatives who voted against impeachment?
Split down the middle, and likely skewed by that Politico poll(possibly the Economist one too) which in no way can be accurate. I also remember the Fox poll referenced was shown to be bunk in terms of those polled. Add in the 'Trump factor' - ie. those polled don't always answer honestly - presumably because they don't want to have to handle all the 'Love' they'll receive from über tolerant liberal types should they reveal their support for President Trump
Jim maybe you counted on other people not checking that link, but I did. That polling data refers to support for an impeachment INQUIRY. Nothing to do with support for removal from office. Of course by the end of the 'inquiry'(translate:witch-hunt) the numbers supporting removal were falling, and falling FAST. Not a single Republican voted for impeachment, and a few Democrats opposed it(one even changing his registration to Republican). An absolute farce. Bipartisan opposition.
Jim i NEVER said he would "never" be impeached. This is a lie made up in your Trump-fevered brain. Go trawl the threads/blogs all you want - you won't find i said it, because i never did.
This is a trainwreck for Democrats. Bipartisan OPPOSITION. By God. This may well go down as the day The Democrat Party put the nail in their own coffin. All they are now is a mixture of rage-obsessed far left socialists and dying members of the establishment who support police-state tyrannical tactics. The Democrat Party is going down in flames.
Jim there will be no 'negotiations' for the Senate Trial. McConnell will establish the rules. And he should show utter disdain for the shampeachment process undertook by Schiff & co. There should be an immediate motion to dismiss and put an end to this sorry process once and for all.
The Democrats are entitled to pursue their sham impeachment process. They consider themselves salespeople who think they can successfully con enough people. I think they underestimate most people.
Jim all that graphic proves (IF indeed it is true) is that there is an immense double standard at play, for no reasonable person could argue that the discrepancy could be so large, given that the opportunity for corruption is pretty equal across the board once you get elected (doesn't matter if it's as a R or D)
What is clear(and has been beautifully exposed) is that a large part of this is political activists masquerading as neutral have been exposed for the bought and paid for snakes they are. The Fake News is imploding on itself, their búllshít is no longer being consumed. The Great Awakening is under way. No one can stop what is coming. And to a number, corrupt people will be held to account for their crimes.
RE: Senate impeachment rules
"No they are not. If they were, Trump or his counsel would HAVE to be there. The decision to impeach was the result of the investigation performed and the vote afterwards. Impeachment then moves to requires a trial in the senate. In the House, there was no requirement for a defense team. Indeed, ALL the representatives COULD have voted to impeach. During a trial one has to have the opportunity to defend. This is the last I will argue about this. If you still don't get it, I am wasting my time arguing this with you."YES, THEY ARE Jim. And both are different from a criminal trial(again, obviously). And that actually you mention it, Trump's counsel SHOULD have been present during the House Proceedings, though as we know the Totalitarian Democrats - the House writes the rules and has the sole power of impeachment - DENIED their presence(just one of a number of highly unprecedented and highly unfair matters as a part of their unfair process). The House Democrats - led my Messrs Pelosi, Nadler & Schiff - have brought immense disgrace on themselves. Completely deranged by their desire to remove Trump by any means necessary, they have failed in their duty as the Legislative Branch, not to mention National Security matters have suffered greatly also as a result of this obsession. The only thing they represent is a refusal to accept and adapt to the changing reality. They are stuck, screaming and shouting, while the rest of the world is determined to move forward. However, it is their choice. And it will be every American's choice come November of this year.