***What I find of interest here, is AlJeezera by the way. Here they have a very large number of Clerics around the Islamic world.....that are preaching hatred for America......a political message, yes?.......and they are brothered by two American candidates that meet in a Christian Church? With both American Presidential Canididate that admitting to being Christian? In a country that is predominately Christian?
The think that while Al-Jeezera might have been troubled by that. During that entire Q&A of the two, I bet neither mentioned hatred or anger to the Islamic world or to Moslems in general. But the amount that Moslem clerics incite there followers to violence, is hardly ever mentioned by Al-Jeezera.
Al-Jazeera, has no clerics. It is a news organization just as CNN and Fox is. I read this paper on a daily basis. They frequently blast Muslim extremist. I feel they have a obligation to point out that in a country that preaches seperation of church and state...the two candidates for office are bowing to presentations of the Christian far right.
I did think the format was much better than the debate style. I have read Rick Warrens book and think he is a bright man. I just think the venue sent the wrong message about church and state
BTW, I frequently disagree with articles in Al Jazeera, but I think this one was on the money
I think you missed the question, or I didn't word it right. I was asking what people thought of a pastor holding these talks...not about the Al Jazeera article.
There was a discussion hosted by Rick Warren, a California pastor of a Super Church, on CNN. I feel this is against all that we Americans stand for. It further alienated me, from both candidates, because they are pandering to the religious right. They both should have declined the invitation, and said religion must not be involved in American politics.
Below is a portion of a commentary posted today in Al Jazeera:
The fact that McCain and Obama's first joint appearance (not debate) was coordinated and hosted by an influential religious preacher speaks volumes about the influence of organised religion on politics in the US.
Politics in a bubble
Such theological/political journalism is unthinkable anywhere in Europe or in so-called democracies around the world. Calling one's enemy or their ideology or religion evil is the language normally used by such groups as al-Qaeda, not constitutional democracies.
If religious interviews were done with such fanfare and influence in a Muslim country, democratic or otherwise, western and especially US media would have made mockery of such an imposition of religious fundamentalism on political process.
For most outsiders, the US is in denial over its own "evil doing" around the world. Obama and McCain could see evil in Darfur but would not admit that the invasion and occupation of Iraq on false premises or for oil is no less an evil act.
To his credit, Obama broke out of the delusional discourse of the US as the-city-on-a-hill to underline the need for humility when confronting evil so that the US does not perpetrate its own evils.
But for some people around the world, it may be a bit late for that.
Alas.
So, other than the flack I am going to get for reading Al Jazeers, what do you think? Or does it even matter to you??
Retired...so I go to bed when I want and get up when I want. Nothing wakes me, I just get up when I am done sleeping. Another great reason for living alone.
age is the #1 issue for me. Both in personal relationships and romantic relationships. I need someI can talk with. Someone who has experienced the same experiences as me. Someone who 's knowledge isn't from books, but from the school of hard knocks. When reading a profile, the very first thing I look for is my age or close
yes, I had a teenage wedding that lasted six months. one marrige that ended in divorce after 16 years another that ended with her death after 16 years and a wife that left me for an internet lover after four years. I would still be married to Sue if she hadn't died.
Someone once said ..as long as one person is not free, we are not a free nation. The U.S. is a great democracy, but it is not free. I would not want to live anywhere else, but there are too many civil liberties that are withheld.
But to answer the main question about how important is freedom; I value it so much that I will never get married again
I mention the front lines because they must be willing to make the ultimate saceifice if the want the same rights.
Yes, women frequently get their drinks cheaper on "ladies night". Just a few blocks from my house, women get to have their cars washed at half price on Wednesdays.
Women who allow men to be lazy and not put his effort into supporting the home....don't really believe in equality. A woman that I was seeing, once said she wanted someone to sopport her and her daughter. At least that is what I thought she said. Since we have started seeing each other again, I brought thay up. She said I misunderstood her. She will always work to support herself and her daughter. She just would like to marry someone that would contribute to the family welfare. I could not agree more.
what is scary and sad...is the fact these "leaders" think they can justify their actions!!
Bush uses "9-11" to justify all his actions
The Russians use protectionism to justify theirs
All I know is I want my great grandchildren to know peace. What is sad is my grandchidren lived in the time of Iraq. Let there be peace for my great grandchildren
Just as a referece to man was referred to, si is the term Rock and Roll!!. Yes, man has evolved, We Call him "modern man" and no longer call him "cro-magnan" So has rock and roll evolved to the point that it is now rock....but no longer rock and roll. This is my opinion.
Tes we still have our oldies on vinyl and cassette and even 8-track. But rock and roll is dead...not the memory, but the artistry and passion that was rock and roll.
Rock and roll was born of an influence of many musical genres and died as it melded with many more!!
Is this supposed to be an attempt at culture?? If so...it's a pathetic attempt. You seem to be rather hung up on money, and try to displace your obsession with it to other people and cultures!!
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RE: Do girls really want the nice guy?
LMFAO....you are 18 yo!! You have no idea what hurt is!Why have i been hurt so many times again and again?[/b]
At 18, how many times could you have been hurt?? What, were you kicked out of drama class!! SHEEESH!!!