It’s a simple idea behind this thread , I am a logical and rational guy that believes in evidence , if you believe that the evidence you have to support your belief in your religion is undeniably conclusive then present it , and if it is conclusive I will have to admit it and you will of converted me . However be warned I have heard most of the arguments and they fall flat on their face so be sure before you post .
Are you sure he walked this earth ??? After all there is no evidence to say he did unless you count the bible which is self serving and proven to be incredibly flawed. As for him being a good person if he did exist , well he endorsed the old testament in it’s entirety including all the crimes against humanity that it calls for
Correction my dear you where not born catholic you where born with catholic parents , there is no such thing as a religious child just children with religious parents , (wow I was able to resist being cheesy and posting “Correction my dear you where born beautiful”)
What is even more farcical is that the Vatican has established a committee to investigate what happens to the souls of unbaptised babies
Protestants only came into being because Henry the eight wanted to break with the catholic church because they would not grant him a divorce so he made up the church of England
Is that best you could come up with , Yes you did back your self into a corner by saying that you would do the vilest of things , and by being insulting to individuals , and having done that and run out of any sort of argument you decided to scream PEACE
You claimed you would do the most monstrous of things and then directly insult people in the vilest of ways , having backed yourself into a corner you now ant to scream PEACE
Firstly no one was insulting any one , if anything you where insulting other’s , secondly what is this “we” business “you” are alone in the fact that “you” said “you” where prepared to kill your children if the imaginary sky fairy asked you to.
In all sincerity you need to seek medical help and if the mods are reading this they need to report your ip address to the authorities
There is no twisting needed you said you would kill your own chrilden.
I have a perfectly sound mind what you need to ask your self is what do we usually do with people that say they will kill their children if they believe god told them to ??? (and as a side not when trying to avoid some one it is generally not a good idea to spend the rest of such a lengthy post and other posts trying to insult them)
Now you are just trying to back track
Screw being a good Christian your not a good person you are dangerous and need to say/be kept away from everyone else
Again back tracking
Dead is dead convincing yourself otherwise is no excuse to kill a child or anyone else
So what you require an hallucination of some sort ?? We have a supercomputer called the brain it’s very good at creating those.
Norway, denmark, japan to name a few the uk is and Ireland are increasingly becoming more secular, America has the highest proportion of religious people in the western world it also has the highest prison population , rate of teenage pregnancy/sti and comes bottom of the education league
As was pointed out before there are plenty of predominately secular societies/country’s that are doing fine ,I can not think of one secular western democracy that is doing worse than America the most religious western country in terms of criminal activity , education and teenage pregnancy / sti rates
Mike has a tendency to ignore facts that have been have been shown to prove him wrong like the one below that I pointed out to him some months back
US Treaty with Tripoli
Authored by American diplomat Joel Barlow in 1796, the following treaty was sent to the floor of the Senate, June 7, 1797, where it was read aloud in its entirety and unanimously approved. John Adams, having seen the treaty, signed it and proudly proclaimed it to the Nation.
Annals of Congress, 5th Congress
Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
We can certainly learn everything that we need to know for in our life time otherwise we would not live for the entirety of our life time , as for being able to learn every thing , no we can not for a start not everything is know , and the amount of information is too vast , you could spend an entire lifetime studding beetles and still have more to learn on the subject
RE: What are the things that you admire from the Lord Jesus Christ?
Reiterating some thing wise and insightful that some one else said before him does not excuse the fact that he promoted hatred