you were given the ability to learn , as a result of your birth which you had nothing to do with. the ability to learn is a trait. then you RECIEVED your education from others . now you cook with the information given you.....in addition to the ingredients.
your capacity for activity , n effort..was also given you by virtue of birth and environment.
as you say the things you do ….for better or worse ..is result of your learning and knowledge RECIEVED....
the ability to trust or not trust is GIVEN also.... .as are experiences.
you also were given the ability to choose...so, can spend too much on food if wish. or choose not to back down in a debate if wish.
yes, similar to others you have been GIVEN many traits, tools to use in your GIVEN environment.
you were born with what you were GIVEN, and had no say in any of it, and then that was you. physical /mental etc. you began to process the stuff around you ..also GIVEN , with the abilities you were GIVEN.
some people are given more good things than others. some times bad things are given.
when I see people with good things, I automatically think...thank god for that. (of course many don't believe)and thank themselves.
regards choice and doing stuff...that is done via other traits given .
its not the case that because EVERYTHING is given,...that people are not responsible for what they do...as some might suggest .
because people are GIVEN many traits, tools to work with, in their environment.
traits like...capacity to discern right from wrong, be kind, caring, loving , responsible , etc . , too many traits to mention.....in this little text box...haha
although, sometimes folk might not receive all such traits .
also of course people don't just only give other people stuff. nature, circumstance, etc...are not human or even have a brain , let alone hands. yet, its processes give things to people and effects their life for better or worse.
: everybody agrees with themselves if it is their view. (unless later have reason to believe otherwise )….then they believe in themselves anew. we are all the same in that regard.
however, the point of my poll was to get peoples views on it. not to see how many agree with my view because that is irrelevant to me.
it is interesting how people see n perceive things about life and self and makeup.
I still think that everything is given. even if humans carry out actions to get stuff. the ability to act is given to us.
o...and theres only a few trillion cells involved inside of us functioning away keeping us going that we know little about. that, in addition to external environment and trillions more cells n atoms and god knows what , that's given to function in. the list of given things is amazing.
I respect everybodys view on it. regardless how they view it.
yes …everything indeed is given. many people dont like to admit that side of things.
their sense of self is that they take all the glory. they worship self and their works only. in their minds they themselves are only responsible for what they have. they don't give thanks n praise to anybody or anything outside of themselves. they see themselves as the ultimate source of their powers.
they are very quick to condemn others , yet everything they have themselves Is given. they don't like to look at that side of things or admit to it. in case it detracts from their percieved sense of greatness.
this is not a religious thread, but if I were to put it in religious terms.
my thinking is in some ways similar to jesus on some issues. jesus himself also knew that he himself had no power on earth. in the sense that everything he had and done , was GIVEN him. in his case from god.
he would say , when people see , hear, the things I say and do. they will give thanks and praise to my father in heaven for the gifts bestowed on me.
the people of today are more likely to say , when people hear and see the things I do, and things I have , they will give praise to me, and I will give more praise to me , and thank myself. I willl brag and boast and say how great I am.
not a mention of thanks or praise to anything or anyone outside of selves . they really think that they themselves are responsible for all they are given.
then they ramble around making use of everything that they were given, from the clothes on their back to the floor they walk on . , to the hair on their head.
ego.
the part of the mind that mediates between the conscious and the unconscious and is responsible for reality testing and a sense of personal identity. a person's sense of self-esteem or self-importance.
I think perhaps the bigger the ego the more difficult it is to admit that all we have Is given (along with other reasons }
have to be GIVEN make up -environment-situations-circumstances-traits and lots more stuff first, then it is process with our given tools for better or worse.
whats GIVEN US ….is processed from cradle to grave , regardless of outcome … good or bad.
we are the processers , and the stuff just keeps coming.
yesterday , I travelled from A to B , in clothes and an infrasctructure, environment , that was none of my making ...and processed it all with the abilities I was GIVEN.
I have no doubt that your ancesters , parents and yourself processed, and made use of the stuff, they were GIVEN..,with the tools they RECIEVED., from the cradle to the grave. (r.i.p ancesters.) in the environment that they were given.. as your kids do. it fortunately was processed for the better.
because you were GIVEN the ability to work and fight, and other folk made the possessions you have via the sweat of their brow . now you have received them . just like language use , pc , text , etc etc,
EVERYTHING in life is GIVEN to us....we process it as we do, for better or worse, the ability to process is given to us too.
I have no doubt that you processed the stuff you received with the abilities you were given.
the ability to function , engage in the act or means is GIVEN ...otherwise you would not have the capacity or ability to engage in those processes. you then acquire more stuff...educ, skills ,possessions etc....process it in one way. or the other.
you were also likewise GIVEN the capacity to work n choose, via your creation and make -up, ..in an environment...all of which you were Given.
its the same for everybody.
(employed / unemployed , politics , economy , choices people make , the percieved morality of stuff is irrelevant. this is not a morality thread, or a right wrong thread , in relation to what folk do. or say In life. its not about judging anybody or praising or condemning anyone for what they do or are. its not a brownie points exercise. )
im saying Everything people have now, and had in the past was GIVEN to them.
from the air that we breath to the lungs we breath with, to everything in the internal and external environment around us. --------its all given to us.
take a look at where you are, and what you are now in this moment in time. the clothes you wear, food eat, floor stand on, places and facilites you use, body function mental/physical. did you make any of it. = NO. not even a hair on your head .
EVERYTHING we have is GIVEN...i.m.h.o
we receive ...process and receive...and it goes around and around.in circles.
it might not be good news for those with massive egos, narcissists, psychos, grandiose folk etc, it kinda destroys their false image of selvs, and delusions .
nevertheless, its the same for everybody. Everything we have we are given ,....we process,....one way or the other for better or worse.....with the stuff we are given and receive daily.
im talking about EVERYTHING. ...you can include fate , free will , genes, environment , religion, consciousness , laws of physics , etc...…..or anything else you think exist.
if you think some of the above things don't exist , or whatever other dosnt , then that's ok , = it doesn't exist.…..lm saying that EVERYTHING ….that ….DOES..EXIST..we are GIVEN.
so , that means you were GIVEN the ability , capacity , via birth , genetics ..etc,.for dev,skills , educ , .etc, the environment GAVE opportunities etc..along with oxygen, lol
the stuff you have now you also recieved, from the clothes on your back , to the roof over your head , to the food you eat , path you walk on, possesions etc,..everything //..all provided by others via the sweat of their brow.
you do know that you did not make even the clothes you are wearing , let alone the materials , designs etc. or the walls that surround you now..or any of the stuff.
in your makeup you were also GIVEN the ability to choose ,
you used what you were given as you did,.... processed it.
where did you GET the ability , energy , physicality , mentality etc ...to do things , with the sweat of your brow, muscles etc as you say......obviously YOU WERE GIVEN IT. otherwise you wouldnt have the where with all to do it.
people process the stuff they get differently , but neverthless they process what they were GIVEN. everything they have and do is provided by others and nature , environment. etc .
i dont doubt for a second that you processed what what you were given as you did.
not do i doubt everything you have is provided from internal /external environment.
everything anyone has is given to them.
you were given the ability to learn , as a result of your birth which you had nothing to do with.the ability to learn is a trait. then you RECIEVED your education from others . now you cook with the information given you.....in addition to the ingredients.
your capacity for activity , n effort..was also given you by virtue of birth and environment.
as you say the things you do ….for better or worse ..is result of your learning and knowledge RECIEVED....
the ability to trust or not trust is GIVEN also.... .as are experiences.
you also were given the ability to choose...so, can spend too much on food if wish.
or choose not to back down in a debate if wish.
yes, similar to others you have been GIVEN many traits, tools to use in your GIVEN environment.
t.g