Excellent example of why we are where we are today. Political grandstanding and failure to take responsibility. Lets blame the Republicans and the rich or lets blame the democrats and their social programs.
Would should make a concentrated effort to remove each and everyone of them from office.
Are you referring to things like the polio vaccine or the world's utter dependence on anti psychotic/anti depression drugs? I don't know that it would be none to pleasent to welcome polio and other disease back into our lives.
Kinda hard to tell where you're going with such a vague opening
Well, it looks like the congress has been able to avert this latest crisis. Perhaps now they'll get off their collective butts and work on the FY12 budget and come up with something that's both timely and results in a balanced budget.
If being forced means that he used common sense then I would have to agree. Of course that's the opposite of what you meant. To you, every thing is the fault of the evil Repubeheads. The tax rate is still thus:
The wealthy pay 36 - 39.6% The lower income groups pay 15 - 25%.
Maybe if the wealthy paid 50% you'd feel better or perhaps 60% would make you happy. Honestly, this is one of the few decisions President Obama has made that makes any sense. One would be foolish to increase taxes during a recession or while trying to work their way out of one.
I guess Denmark's just lucky you're not in charge..
Good thread. Without reading through the entire thread to see what others have written and hoping I am not repeating the thoughts of others; I can only say that I feel the frustration of those countries helping these people.
I spent 3 years in Malta where they had much more limited resources to accommodate the huge influx of illegal immigration. They did everything they could but still the amount of uprisings and destruction of property was rediculous. They destroyed property, sent their women to the streets to earn money in the oldest profession and were generally a nuisence.
Regardless of the hard times they had in Libya or where ever they came from, one would think that they would understand that these countries were trying to help them. Instead, they destroy and continually make general asses of themselves.
Thanks for the answer Dude. It clarifies your mind set. Tax the rich more than they already are. Yep, that's really fair. The country is in debt for a number of reasons, lack of funding from the tax payer isn't one of them. The government should look at taxes as their annual pay and live within their budget. If I behaved the way the government does, the bank would own me much the way investors in America own us to the tune of $14trillion.
The wealthy already pay most of the tax burden and the answer according to you is to tax them even more. Good luck with that in conjunction with growing the ecnomy. Even Obama understood this when he extended the tax cuts.
God or the idea of a God is different for everyone. If one does not believe in a God or vice versa, that would be their own opinion/belief.
Far be it from anyone to insult or belitle a person for their own personal beliefs yet that's what happens and more often then not, simply because it's such a sensitive issue.
I would think it would be very difficult. AQ has been very good about keeping themselves safe and secure. One can only hope they'll publish details on their next partners meeting..
That's a great point. I think the days of 2 to 3 months off for summer vacation should be a thing of the past.
On another note, I think there should be a hell of a lot more parental involvement in their children's education. I'd wager that most students would improve if their parents were intersted and involved. Seems like many have given up their responsibilities in hopes that public schools are the sole entities responsible for education. I would hate to even guess what percentage of parents are even involved with organizations like the PTA, booster clubs, etc...
No, I don't think he's doing this, at least not directly.
There have been reports that President Obama is discussing Amnesty for illegal aliens already in the United States which would eventually give the posibility of gaining citizenship and then voting rights.
I hope this is not the case because we've been down this road before in the late 70s or early 80s. We were supposed to have secured our borders after that but here we are again.
Here's the tax rates for US tax payers. The people you mention (fire fighters, police, military, etc..) are in the 15 - 25% range. Are you suggesting they are being taxed at 30 - 45%? If so, that's clearly not correct.
The wealthy are paying between 36 & 39.6%. Are you suggesting they need to pay more income tax? If so, how's that fair.
Tax Rate/2011 Married Couples Filing Jointly Most Single Filers
10% Not over $17,050 Not over $8,525 15% $17,050 - $69,300 $8,525 - $34,650 25% $69,300 - $139,850 $34,650 - $83,900 28% $139,850 - $235,550 $83,900 - $194,150 36% $235,550 - $380,500 $194,150 - $380,500 39.6% Over $380,500 Over $380,500
Dude,
this is from the last Obama thread. You failed to answer the question and that thread is closed. The low wage earners are taxed at 15 to 25% while the top earners are paying 36 to 39.6% Do you still believe the wealthy need to pay more income taxes and if so, how much would satisfy you?
Try to focus on the actual question and respond to it rather that the hyperbol you usually spill.
Here's the tax rates for US tax payers. The people you mention (fire fighters, police, military, etc..) are in the 15 - 25% range. Are you suggesting they are being taxed at 30 - 45%? If so, that's clearly not correct.
The wealthy are paying between 36 & 39.6%. Are you suggesting they need to pay more income tax? If so, how's that fair.
Tax Rate/2011 Married Couples Filing Jointly Most Single Filers
10% Not over $17,050 Not over $8,525 15% $17,050 - $69,300 $8,525 - $34,650 25% $69,300 - $139,850 $34,650 - $83,900 28% $139,850 - $235,550 $83,900 - $194,150 36% $235,550 - $380,500 $194,150 - $380,500 39.6% Over $380,500 Over $380,500
I don't think they or anyone else should be involved in Libya but that's just my opinion. Seems to me that the civil unrest in Libya was more along the line of an internal issue or perhaps a civil war. I think we've made it worse with our intervention. Now we have a very pissed off Gaddafi government seeking revenge on what they see as enemies of the state, enemies incapable of any worthy military strategy/tactics who will eventually be slaughtered unless we provide much more than a no-fly zone. I believe we've now obligated ourselves to a "boots on the ground" strategy or at the very least a whole lot of air support and weapons training and provision. Anything short of that will eventually lead to a slaughter of all those forces and anyone seen to be sympathetic to that cause. Many innocents will die.
What you say is at least partially true. The difference being is that those people in the United States to include Christian religeous leaders are very vocal in condemning the actions of the rogue pastor. What we're not hearing from moderate Muslims is a load and clear condemnation of the actions of these radical Muslims.
Edmund Burke said, "The only thing necessary for the triumph [of evil] is for good men to do nothing." Remaining silent seems to equate to doing nothing. Don't get me wrong, I am of the mindset that these Islamic radicals/terrorists make up a small percentage of the Muslim community but as long as the Muslim community remains silent and/or don't get actively involved, many people will see them as one in the same. JMHO
Everyone has the right to believe as they wish. I for one believe there's a God. I agree with your thoughts on burning the Bible or the Quran, they're simply books and seeing someone burn the Bible would not bother me in the least.
Unfortunately, there are millions who take offense to such things and this is especially true with those of the Islamic faith. This guy had the right to do whatever he wished to do with the copy(s) of the Quran he had. I don't think he'll be held criminally liable and he shouldn't but there's something to be said for exercising a little common sense. He accomplished nothing by doing this other than increase pollution in the atmospher and provide an irrational reason for Jihadists to attack and kill innocent non-Muslims.
I made an error earlier and should have corrected that. The 30 number reflects Mazar-e-Sharif and other locations. I believe the accurate number for Mazar is 10.
In any case, things in Mazar-e-Sharif have been relatively quiet up until the Quran burning. Northern Afghanistan in general has been pretty stable, particularly Mazar. At the moment, things are still rather dicey as this has really provided a lot of fodder for the anti-western elements.
I hope this dies down soon and that our friend in Florida thinks twice before doing such things again. Certainly he has the right but his exercise of freedom just costs lives.
No worries, you make some valid points. One would think these guys passing these madates would consider these differences but then again, governemnt (state, local & federal) don't always do that. Seems the teachers and parents should be getting together to push for some reasonable standards.
Tax Rate/2011 Married Couples Filing Jointly Most Single Filers
10% Not over $17,050 Not over $8,525 15% $17,050 - $69,300 $8,525 - $34,650 25% $69,300 - $139,850 $34,650 - $83,900 28% $139,850 - $235,550 $83,900 - $194,150 36% $235,550 - $380,500 $194,150 - $380,500 39.6% Over $380,500 Over $380,500
Then there's this:
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- For most Americans, Wednesday is the day they have to make sure they're square with the tax man.
The highest earners pay the lion's share of the dollars Uncle Sam collects.
The top fifth of households made 56% of pre-tax income in 2006 but paid 86% of all individual income tax revenue collected, according to the most recent data available from the Congressional Budget Office.
Narrowing in further: The top 1% of households, which made 19% of pre-tax income, paid 39% of all individual income taxes.
The trend is similar if you count income taxes, social insurance taxes, excise taxes and corporate income taxes (such as capital gains) combined. The top fifth of households paid 69% of all federal taxes. The top 1% paid 28%.
No, I understood what you were saying which is why I said: "I would think other factors besides standardized tests and there would seem to be a lot of difference in scores on those tests based on the students from honors classes, the gifted programs and those in remedial classes. I would imagine they would need to weight things a little differently".
Interesting. I don't have a problem with results based pay for teachers but I would think other factors besides standardized tests and there would seem to be a lot of difference in scores on those tests based on the students from honors classes, the gifted programs and those in remedial classes. I would imagine they would need to weight things a little differently.
I believe the reason Japan and other countries are kicking our butts is not so much the teachers or the schools. The only thing they can do is provide information. We the moms and dads are responsible for our children's educations but I think too many project this responsibility to the school system and teachers. I wonder how many parents are really involved with their children's education or help them with homework and help them to understand the importance of a good education.
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RE: Republicans are willing to shutdown the government...again
Excellent example of why we are where we are today. Political grandstanding and failure to take responsibility. Lets blame the Republicans and the rich or lets blame the democrats and their social programs.Would should make a concentrated effort to remove each and everyone of them from office.