8000 entered Croatia today and last night. Some are already on the border with Slovenia, they are on no man's land at the moment. When the numbers increase they will demand the passage through Slovenia, that is for sure.
The behaviour will only get worse for sure. The only way to stop is to do the same as Hungary and this should have been done at least a month ago when they started coming in bigger numbers.
The thing is that Ireland is far away, we, on the other hand, are right on their way and as I said right at the beginning, Germany will stop accepting them soon, Austria will do the same and it will be us taking the brunt of the migrants' anger. God help us (this coming from a not religious person).
Hungary managed to stop them - now almost 9000 entered Croatia causing riots near the border, demanding that trains take them westward. In Zagreb some were housed in a hotel but were unhappy with that and threw the furniture and toilet paper through the windows.
The first "refugees" have reached Slovenian border which is also Schengen border. Out PM, god bless hm, he obviously lives on Mars, claims Slovenia is committed to Schengen and will follow the procedre to the letter. At the same time he has not done anything to protect that border, he is not Orban. Wonder how he thinks we will stop the hordes. My god what naivete.
I have just read in one of the Croatian papers: 2 thousand of "refugees" gathered at the railway station in Tovarnik (must be near Vukovar - the border with Serbia), they demanded that trains be brought to take them to Germany. The police set some obstacles to contain the crowd, but they breached through the police cordon and started marching on the road.
In Zagreb (the capital, very near the border with Slovenia) some "poor refugees" were housed in a hotel but they were not happy, they threw the furniture and toilet paper through the windows.
Just hear don the TV that almost 9000 "refugees" entered Croatia during today!
On FB there are a couple of people publishing articles and linking to videos that the papers here fail to include. If it was only here in Slovenia, I would even understand, but it seems to be the same all over Europe.
p.s. When are you coming to Europe? Watch the video I included in one of my previous posts here today and visit Slovenia - it is absolutely beautiful.
I have seen that in the UK papers these people are at least referred to as "migrants", in Slovenian papers, and the Norwegian ones I check, they are always called "refugees", no other word is used. And of course then the word Syrian added, so you could see boats full of black Africans called Syrian refugees. The ones in Hungary are always called Syrian as well - no paper has reported about the fake passports, about the Pakistanis and the rest taking advantage of this madness. It seems there is not a single journalist capable of telling the truth.
Not here Lindsy. I check bbc, skynews, cnn, the telegraph and Verdens Garten and Aftenposten and the SLovenian papers. They all play the same tune.
The Skynews reporter when reporting from the Hungarian border very reluctantly admitted that the "refugees" consisted of men only but then he hurridly added: but there are some families here too.
If you want to really see what is happening you have to dig and find some alternative papers (usually right or what is called right by these lunatics)
The same here. It is strange that the media and the politicians play the same tune.
It seems the media is on a mission of misinforming the people by manipulating their emotions.
- The pictures they include in the articles and TV news are those of women an children, they intentionally avoid showing those young healthy men and they
- the media are set on showing "refugees" as victims no matter what. Therefore, no videos you mentioned are being shown.
The media seem to be entirely responsible for this "confusion" in labelling everyone "refugees". I cannot imagine what they get out of it, how they can live with themselves knowing what lies they are spreading.
What I wanted to say is that the Europeans seem to be different from the AUstralians - there is this strong religion prevailing here now, the religion that says: we must help, we must let everyone come...
I am afraid the elections for those who opposed this invasion will not be successful, look at Norway, they had municipal elections and the party that got most votes is the lelt part whose leader wants more and more refugees in.
Europeans seem oblivious of wht is happening and blind to the consequences - group suicidal wish?
Oh yes, both are beautiful. Take a minute to relax and watch this video with Slovenia's beauties. Hell, I want it to stay this way, so thank god they don't want to stay - Germany keep on taking them in:
I know Bab, it is terrible! They are on their way to Slovenia and our politicians are just babbling - they introduced the border control on the border to Hungary but everyone knows the migrants are coming from Croatia now!
Austrians are checking everyone and returning them back, we are going to have thousands of them here.
Just saw a completely covered woman COMPLETELY even with the gloves on in my local store. God wanted to tell her to take the bloody thing off or leave!
This is so amazing how you guys think, if at all. While you give every right to every nation in the world to have their own name, their own territory etc., you keep on denying the same things to the people of Europe! There are not real Brits, no real Germans, no real.... WTH is this???? If this applies to us, the Europeans, then it applies to everyone else you give all the rights to! This is such a BS.
Why are you ashamed of who/what you are???? Europe is what it is -rather affluent with well/functioning states (well, that was before this attempt of eliminating national states in the Western world made by the EU, multinational coorporations... ) - how can you be so blind not to see that this cannot continue when the population with a completely different culture and agressive religion gains substantial minority?
Like the others said for me because I was not here last night:
1. I stated my concern for his safety in prison.
2. You asked why this was relevant.
3. I corrected myself saying: In my country there are no military prisons, I forgot that other countries have them. I also cited the statistics on Muslim overrepresentation in your "civilian" prisons, to substantiate my concern of safety in the first place.
SO, the first instance of your lack or intentional lack of reading skills: I actually admitted my mistake!
I will not go into details of our following exchanges here, obviously most here have picked it up.
And you last lines about humanity.... - they just emphasize what someone else said: lack of consistency in logical thinking, while you look at the migration and Muslim related issues with one pair of eyes, you look at the other issues with another pair.
And no, it is not "humanity" to spend 10-100 times more money on the priviledged ones (mostly young, healthy men) that manage to come to Europe than on the ones sitting in the camps in Turkey and elsewhere.
No one is against helping those in need. Those who a) don't think Europe can host every poor(er) inhabitant of Africa and ME and who b) think that our first and foremost responsibility is to leave this beautiful part of the world with the same living conditions, if not better, to our children and their children have every right to think like that and they (we) have every right to be opposed to what is happening now. You are not entitled to the truth, you cannot demand that everyone thinks/acts the way you see fit. No, we are not the caliphate, yet. But it seems we will be in a decade or two.
Haven't seen what results Denmark achieved? Their efforts in advertising in the papers in ME about the more harsh welfare system, tougher family reunion regulations, their emphasis on "you will have to work to get any benefits" - the result is that the migrants do not want to go to Denmark - has DK suddenly become one of the poor E European countries?
Plus - no not all the EU states have to bear the burden - those who invited them should.
And yes, their culture/religion is problematic: they do not integrate but impose their customs and attitudes upon others.
The research shows that the more religious one is, the less tolerant one is towards the others. Now, in Europe most people are not religious, the values we have built are taken for granted. When such two different cultures meet, it is obvious which will prevail.
And this is not being paranoid but logical. Is there any country in the world with Muslim majority or significant minority that functions well?
You really need to do something about your reading skills. I am sure you think it is because they are poorer than the rest. Well, read what the research says.
The Balkan route starts with Greece. The Balkan states are not as strong as Hungary for example, some of them also want to please Merkel too much, e.g. Croatia and Slovenia have not said a beep and instead of siding with the other EU eastern countries, they pretend they are the true West. The stupidest thing ever done by the EU (Merkel leading) was not to help out the Greeks and then the Macedonians to avert the flows, the galactycally stupidest thing was what Merkel did (and Sweden, but they have been doing it for years and are heading for the cliff) /- to invite everyone. Why should these young men fight when they were offered an easier alternative - to migrate to Europe where a well functioning state will take care of them and their numberous families without asking anything in return.
Whoever is not afraid when seeing all these young men lacks something in their heads - when these men finally end up not having as good a standard as their European hosts (who on top of all are infidels), they will start the hell for us here. Yes, Europe is on its way to become Middle East.
Muslims account for less than 5% of the population, yet they make up more than 14% of the prison population and the number is increasing. The same goes for the Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, the countries that I know of.
RE: Borders are tightened while Merkel calls for emergency summit
8000 entered Croatia today and last night. Some are already on the border with Slovenia, they are on no man's land at the moment.When the numbers increase they will demand the passage through Slovenia, that is for sure.