Hope you have a great time here in Europe despite all the problems we are facing now. Europe is such a uniquem beautiful place, it is worthwhile preserving at any cost.
No, no the Norwegian passport wouldn't be that useful at the beginning, a "refugee"/asylum seeker from a thrid world country gets many more welfare benefits than a Norwegian does.
Haha, and when they get the Norwegian passport off they go on vacation to the land they had fled from and send children to their homeland, so that they do not become too "Norwegian"
Of course, no one knows because we do not know who is entering Europe. Boxes of discovered Syrian passports, migrants heading to the EU countries with the best welfare systems only, the majority of migrants being young, healthy men who had previously been in a safe place, e.g. Turkey / that tells us a lot.
And yes, you are right - migration is not a crime...until the host country/countries saya/say: enough is enough. Can you move wherever you want and be provided everything there? No. I would love to live in Norway, the country's beauty is exquisite, their welfare system superb...not a bad idea....but hey, first I have to get my a fake Syrian passport.
Right from the beginning of this thread I said Germany would close the borders and then it will be the rest of us paying for their "generosity". I also said when Hungary closes the border with Serbia, the migrants will just go through Croatia and Slovenia. Now, these two countries are small, we do not have the power of a much bigger Hungary, we will not be able to deal with thousands of migrants pushing towards Austria and Germany if the borders are closed. There is no way we could. Plus we do not have the defence capabilities to defend ourselves as Germany can - so, who cares????
I am glad you ahd a nice weekend. You have often been changing your profile pictures - all are great
Not sure what this will do - haven't we learned that a) democracy does not work in that part of the world and b) every new dictator turns to be worse than the previous one?
This IMO is wrong - someone said before that even similar people on the same street cannot live together.... Plus this global thinking seems to apply to the Western countries only.
The global thinking is just an exptension of such in the economy where it brings disproportionate power to the multinational companies and makes the rich even richer.
Diversity is good when you do not shove it in someone's throat, it is definitely bad when you face losing your identity as a result.
refugees get more than canadian senior citizens or folks on permanent disability who were born here and have lived and worked here all their lives. quote]
The same and more everywhere here in Europe. Plus like I mentioned before: family reunification of 10+members of family at the expense of the taxpayers, "refugee" children are given priority when applying for kindregartens, schools, community apartments...(I read that in Sweden native elederly are being kicked out of houses so that municipalities can move in the "refugee" families), their dental and health care covers more than the natives' and the benefits go on and on and on.
If we are to survive this tide of migration and not end up like the Roman empire, we should take drastic measures:
For the ones not here yet: 1. all should be stopped from entering Europe (the police and the military should turn them back at all cost - all EU countries should have their police and/or military forces at our borders) 2. the ones in Greece, Hungary and the rest of Southern Europe should be should be shipped to Saudi and the other rich Golf states, who should be forced by the UN to accept them. 3. other new camps for migrants should be built in North Africa and Middle East. 4. if Europe is to accept any more, it should be only the ones that are thoroughly screened and are in real need - the real refugees not.
For the ones already here:
1. camps with makeshift accommodation facilities should be built for the ones already here, 2. the asylum system should be abolished or adhered to to the letter (which means it can be given ONLY to the really persecuted ones) 3. welfare benefits should not be given to any - only the type of help that exists in the neighboring camps in e.g. Turkey should be provided. 4. each and every one here should be screened and those not meeting the requirements should be sent to the areas outside Europe. 5. family reunification should be stopped 6. permanent residence should be given only to the selected ones who could meet all the requirements for asylum 7. citizenship should not be given 8. everyone should be given clear warning that following the Western values and behaving accordingly is a prerequisite for their stay in Europe regardless of who they are and where they are from. 9. no new mosques should be built, the ones here should be monitored at all times, the authorities should close them upon suspicion only of hate speech or other unwanted behaviour. 10. Muslims should not make themselves visible in public places (no covering for women, no "dresses" for men - western clothes only) 11. schools should not accept any other "customs" that do not hail from the Western world.
Haha our politicians cannot come up with such measures and even if they did, can you imagine the outcry of the do-gooders? No, we are doomed. Europe is kaput, finito...girls go buy yourselves a burkha!
BTW I just saw on TV that there was a kind of rally in BUdapest to support the "refugees". Seems like the majority were young girls! Wonder if these silly things know how women are treated in Muslim countries and that these "refugees" bring their customs and religion here?????
Incredible. This is like a hypnosis, people do not use their brains at all!
I cannot even imagine that. We are seeing more and more covered women here. Supposedly they are getting money to cover themselves. These people are completely nuts!
Exactly! I posted this earlier in the EU refugees thread:
The father of the little 3-year old that died was the one operating the boat and shared the money with another man on the boat, according to the witness interviewed by The Daily Telegraph (Australian).
I could not find the original article, but it was cited here:
It is not about the democracy, it is about the welfare benfits they will get there.
The irritating thing is that Germany and Sweden opened the floodgates and directly caused this chaos. Now they will soon close their borders as they cannot accept limitless numbers. Hungary has done the correct thing building a wall with Serbia to protect itself. What this means is that these "refugees" will just go through Croatia and Slovenia to Austria to get to Germany. But when the border gets closed they will be stuck in Slovenia, and we will be stuck with them. I dread to think what will happen then. Horrible!
I guess the IS scenario will come true: the territories south of Austria (Vienna) will be Islamic, just like it was in the Ottoman times.
Thanks Tom for this link. Our politicians and those screaming welcome should be sent to ME together with these young, healthy men we have let in. This is incredible, like a group hypnosis or something.
That woman has gone completely crazy! But god knows what those advisors of hers tell her - I am sure her head is full of stories like this: Germans are a dying nation, we need labour force! Insane, but this is what they keep on telling us here (have a friend who works for NATO, and he thinks the same.
And who will deal with that islamic oppression in their own countries???? the Europeans? What do these young, healthy men look for here? Do you think they will be alone? Have you heard of the infamous "family reunion?" These men will have their whole families brought here at the expense of the host countries - that means the taxpayers. And their families are not families of 2, 3....but 10, 12...
For example, an ethnic Norwegian can bring a wife from another country only if he can prove that he is financially capable of supporting her. The asylum seekers (i.e. all these that invaded Europe now) can have their whole families brought here without any const for themselves and without any need to prove anything!
Sure, but that excludes them from the definition of a refugee - they are economic migrants and should be dealt accordingly - what a madhouse Europe is allowing these people to ask for asylum! Madness!!!
Syrians who had found refuge in safe neighboring areas, e.g. Turkey, then decided they wanted to live off the welfare benefits in Germany, Sweden and for that purpose passed through safe countries are nothing but economic migrants.
A hot Syrian "refugee" on her way to Sweden: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34118978
Among the hundreds of thousands that invaded us, only a tiny fraction are real refugees, everyone else is economic migrants:
Jews were not economic migrants, so the two situations cannot be compared at all. But this whole thing will end up in a clash that is for sure, unless the Europeans are total cowards.
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Hope you have a great time here in Europe despite all the problems we are facing now. Europe is such a uniquem beautiful place, it is worthwhile preserving at any cost.