RE: Should Ireland follow the UK and leave the EU.

Even going further, the world, with humans realizing shared humanity, not power games of politicians and corporate capitalism, should rule. Utopia though, just as K-Pax crying but we must not give up hope either! head banger

Wonder what will happen with Scotland. Worry with many smaller nations is that wars among neighbours can break out, which a big union like the EU could be a tool against, but then there is the risk of Super States eventually waltzing over small bordering nations, or conflicts breaking out between Super States. There just does not seem to be a recipe against disaster yet, which is frightenly sad blues blues blues

RE: Emotional issues...Neglected baggage...Ghosts in the closets...

One can't have lived in this world and not have 'baggage'. Even if you have dealt with stuff, it still has had an impact. We get formed by our experiences, and the more we have lived, the more forming has happened. You'd need someone with amnesia to avoid 'baggage' uh oh

I fully agree though with your overall sentiment. Happiness does come from within, and many, no matter how little or how much time they have lived, seem to expect that others will make everything alright for them. That's not possible. A relationship can add to life quality, but if you are miserable within, it does not provide an automatic miracle cure, certainly not on the long run. Think that expectation often destroys relationships (have been there twice with broken individuals, and no matter how hard you try, you can't pull someone out of the swamp, if they don't put effort into getting to safety themselves blues )

RE: Should Ireland follow the UK and leave the EU.

A difficult one for me personally. As a libertarian I reject centralisation and big government, which means I reject the EU, but at the same time I really do not like the idea that Ireland could end dependent on US and UK handouts. Ireland once upon a time had an amazing culture. The Normans came and turned more Irish than the Irish themselves, but later centuries saw a systematic destruction of that culture, and the Irish identity suffered greatly.

I therefore am inclined to say stay with the EU for the time being, while Ireland spends effort on recovering, because I think Ireland still suffers the aftermath of previous centuries. When people say 'we should follow the UK', this reminds me of a dog following on the heels of its master. I don't like that picture one bit. Ireland deserve better. The EU is certainly not an ideal solution, but it may will offer Ireland an opportunity to find back to its own self. This is an island nation, far away from the mainland. Make use of what the EU currently has to offer, while same time working towards an Ireland that can truly stand on its own feet. The UK is the UK, Ireland is Ireland. The people here are amazing, and can look back on its own unique history, and it is a rich history - forget the centuries of oppression - Ireland once offered a rich culture. Recover it. Recover the identity - and then break from the EU, truly free, not another nation's dog, as I think Ireland would end if it makes that step too soon.

My view, could be all wrong, but that's how I feel about it.

RE: Do people actually date on dating sites!

I KNEW you were going to say that laugh

Oh he got plenty, and alcohol filled in his bottle as a baby to make him sleep better... doh
Some people grow stronger, faced with adversity, some break. The sad workings of life, I guess broken heart

RE: Do people actually date on dating sites!

Poor poor dogs, always leaving or dying moping And to find this fact exploited in music! very mad

laugh

@ snowy
Broken. Some bad, yes, some.. broken.
(lived with someone for 2 years who wasn't bad, but very very broken indeed)

RE: Do people actually date on dating sites!

awww, LOL, I lived in texas, had a pick-up truck, drove over old bridges that were closed, and must say, none of this would have felt quite the same without country music from the speakers, made it feel more 'WILD west' laugh

In contrast to that, Jazz.. and we'd be talking torture uh oh spam

RE: Do people actually date on dating sites!

That would mean searching for a satanic message professor


Is that a specific Australian way of saying the husband comes home from work? writing

RE: Do people actually date on dating sites!

laugh laugh laugh

RE: Whatever Your Taste In Music!!

Must be one of the cutest songs and vids to have come out in a while, not to mention it ROCKS applause What a gem! yay

RE: How is the best way to chat a women up that you have never spoke to before when you are shy and terr

I had someone ask me once how to cook human flesh, not kidding... (and I told him I assume just like any other, throw on the BBQ? dunno uh oh )

RE: Do people actually date on dating sites!

Is it morning in Down Under? dunno Might be evening negativity! professor laugh

RE: Do people actually date on dating sites!

If you are here to date, clearly that logically must mean there are others here for the same reason as you? But of course also loads for an array of different reasons. So it comes down to wading and weeding through it.
As this site is free, I'd assume you don't have a huge population of members only after serious relationship. Would think you'd find that more on paid sites, sort of seems to go with the territory?

All the best either way, hope you find what you are looking for, even on here hug

RE: Whatever Your Taste In Music!!



thumbs up

RE: How is the best way to chat a women up that you have never spoke to before when you are shy and terr

Well, it is confusing, isn't it? Also as people of course really do differ sad flower

I think for example the word 'confident' is wrong for me. Independent sort of sounds much better. Someone who doesn't make you feel your approval or disapproval makes or break their world. When someone gives me that feeling, it almost terrifies me, as I find that's an insane amount of responsibility. Puts me in an awful position, as I don't like hurting people, and I am certain many out there feel the same way.

I personally like the friends approach the best. You know a line like 'You seem nice and interesting, and I like to have nice and interesting friends, so if you are up for that, I'd like to stay in touch, but I'd also understand if you say you already have lots of friends, all fine'.
That I find pretty cool, leaves openings in all directions, but of course I like it, as to me it is important to first form a friendship. In my view people rush far too much, and desperation isn't the best adviser, I think.

And good in this is also, if someone takes you up on it, even if it doesn't lead to a couple relationship, you may at least really have won a new friend, and that can be just as valuable heart wings

RE: shooting in Germany

It is not about being 'angry' at us, but about feeding what gives them the tools to recruit further.

I even agree with Jon Davis that as many need to be killed as by any chance possible, but it isn't helpful to just shrug when innocent Muslims die, indifferently stating accidents happen and it's simply collateral damage. Or to say 'Islam' is evil and due to that freeing the self of the responsibility to feel with ordinary Muslims and their losses, too.

I reject liberals who treat other human beings as pet projects, just as much as I reject those who care not for the suffering of others, simply because they don't fit in with their own race/culture/religion. To me both is equally despicable. This is not just about the West, but about the future of a region where people have a right to form their societies, and fight for them, just as we have done. Most of Western interference down there has happened to cover our own interest, and I personally believe that has to stop.

If we really must aid to bring ISIS to an end, then we have to make clear it's not just retaliation because our people have come to suffer, but because they are enemies to all of us, most Muslims too. We must treat Muslims as equal allies in the fight against these radicals, and once this threat has been dealt with in joined venture, retreat from the area and let these people deal with sorting out their own countries.

Am I wrong? Guess we will have to see what will still happen.

RE: shooting in Germany

YES to the bold part!!!

Maybe family gatherings will go well after all! handshake hug

Although Islam isn't as such responsible for ISIS either. That would be like saying Christianity is responsible for creating the IRA. There is more at play than just religions, in my view at least.

RE: shooting in Germany

Gosh, get over yourself, it appears to me you aren't even reading properly what I am saying.

RE: shooting in Germany

I think this is a good analysis of what we are facing. Jon Davis's answer.

https://www.quora.com/Does-ISIS-really-stand-a-chance-in-the-long-run

This isn't going to go away just by defeating ISIS, and my worry is, as long as we make it all about our peace and Western benefit, our efforts will not be seen as an honest attempt.

Quote:
"Even if ISIS were to be completely routed and destroyed, (magic wand thinking), the ideology behind what brought it into existence will continue to grow even if the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant no longer exists."

We need to see what brought it into existence, and what keeps feeding it. To just say it is 'Islam' is wrong, as there are Muslims out there fighting for democratic ideals, but we are undermining their efforts, in my opinion, through the way we so far we have interacted with the ME, giving radials a West they can depict as the enemy.

My view handshake

RE: shooting in Germany

It is not just about the incident where those families died. It is about meddling in the affairs of a foreign people, which has been going on for far too long now, and has created beasts like IS.

Yes, of course we can beat IS, but the damage we will cause in the process very possibly will lead to new extremes, that is my worry - more families, as you say, falling victims of Islamic butchers. Ever thought I may have that in mind just the same? It's not just about now, but about after. We need to find the best possibly way to protect our future peace, and in my view, pulling out of that area, grants us the best chance for that.

Yet I acknowledge this as my view, maybe I am incorrect, but don't worry, my theory will not be put to the test - it will all continue as is, too much interest in the ME for reasons nothing to do with our families here, nor the families there. To end human suffering here or there, isn't top of the agenda.

RE: shooting in Germany

Put yourself for one moment into the shoes of ordinary families dying from Western bombs.

All of it is equally tragic and senseless, no one should have to suffer from any of this, no matter where they live. 'Idealistic crap', just because it doesn't go along with your right wing fanatism?

Gimme a break comfort

RE: shooting in Germany

Yet no use whining about it. I asked you what your solution is, not your view on mixing, that view I know.

Solve it, Krema, solve it for the world! We are all listening...

(well, I might not right now, as I am going to log off)

RE: shooting in Germany

That's one heck of a vile way to discredit the opinions of another poster.

I have just lost all respect for you as a fellow debater, and shall not engage with you further.

RE: shooting in Germany

Yes, but what I was trying to say is that my father had 20% more testosterone according to those findings (at least), than a man born in the 70s, so the 15% you say make the Arab men violent, should have made my father even more violent, as he's still top that by an additional 5%.

Yet my father - while a powerful man, head of our home, fit like a jogging boot, muscles like an ox - was never ever violent. When it mattered? Yes. He put fear into a group of young (white) men who had climbed over our neighbour's fence while they were holding a BBQ. All the other males of the neighbourly gathering, on average 15 to 20 years his junior (Papa was around 57 at the time), hid in the house, while my father remained with the lads, and after trying to explain to them in kind words, that the fun was over now, and they should go home - they didn't listen - he grabbed one and threw him a few metres, then turned to the others, who fled.

Testosterone, unless at ill levels, is not a bad thing. It makes a man able to act in dangerous situations, and if anything, we should be very worried that the levels of our males are dropping. However, if what you say is correct, and Arab males are at 15% above our now males, then they are still lacking behind my beyond amazing father, who I miss every day since his passing.

RE: shooting in Germany

Don't add more to my list to research and to end despairing over! >.<

*goes to check it out* >.>

RE: shooting in Germany

No, but what I am saying is that you are far from where your roots were, as you stated. We all are, one way or another...

But good on you that you support those rights. I travelled around the whole Australian continent, saw a lot of sadness there too, but it has been many years ago.

RE: shooting in Germany

So so true... rose

RE: shooting in Germany

I lost both of my parents. I know how terrible grief can weigh. I feel deeply with the families, all the more as the victims were so young. I don't think any of us can even begin to imagine the pain they are going through. I have raised 3, every loving parents worst nightmare to even just imagine losing a child, no matter where we talk on this world.

RE: shooting in Germany

15% difference?
Interesting, according to this:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/health-and-the-environment-testosterone-levels-fall-worldwide/30129

my father would have had about 20% more testosterone then a male born in the 70th (if I interprete these findings correctly).
Are you saying my father was a violent dangerous man? o.O

Dropping testosterone levels are actually an issue, not something to hail.

RE: shooting in Germany

Apologies if you felt I questioned your intellectual capacity, but you did come out with some blanket statements. I know people of Arabic origin and find it rather offensive to see them thrown in with radical extremists.

And oh yes, those professionals... Just hope we aren't talking professionals who were telling us there were weapons of mass destruction ready to flatten England thumbs up

RE: shooting in Germany

So it's not about Muslims now? And not about genetically violent Arabs?

I actually never felt it was about Muslims, Christians, nor about 'money'.

But lets not go there, shhhhhh...... tinfoil hat

hmmm wink hug

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