Abortion referendum in Ireland

What is the difference if you comment now or later. It would be obvious by your comment which way you voted!

Abortion referendum in Ireland

I wonder , of those women who were raped & didn't have a termination, would give up that child for adoption after giving birth.
Afterall , there are many women who can't conceive, who would jump at the chance of caring for that child.

Abortion referendum in Ireland

Explain what you mean by "genuine cases" !

Abortion referendum in Ireland

You also need to read a previous post , where I stated that the procedure to prove rape , in a court of law, may take the majority of the pregnancy, which will not enable enough time to legalise a termination.

Abortion referendum in Ireland

Before you resort to name calling, read my other post regarding rape.

Abortion referendum in Ireland

I've said my peace on the subject!
Human rights... The majority of people have the right not to get pregnant.. the child has no rights , so let's not get into a discussion about human rights!

Abortion referendum in Ireland

Rape could mean anything, from a serious attack by a stranger, or saying no to your husband !
We have to draw the line here!!!!

Abortion referendum in Ireland

I don't see the difference between rape or an unplanned pregnancy through a one night stand!

Should that child suffer because of the way it was conceived.?
Does one bad act mean another one should follow as a result?

Abortion referendum in Ireland

The implications of this result will be astronomical... The health service will suffer as a result, people with serious illnesses, who need urgent medical care , will have longer waiting times for operations , sometimes leading to fatality. There will be a lapse in morals, something the Irish pride themselves on, not to mention the guilt that goes with termination.
Well done Ireland , you've just become a smaller version of England!!!

Abortion referendum in Ireland

I can't say I'm happy with the result..
I agree, there needed to be adjustments to the constitution but this is a sad day for freedom.. freedom of life!sad flower

RE: Split Personalities

You said that on your previous profile & the one before that... and the one before that etc...
The fact that you're still here must show that you do care!

RE: Solved

I think it has to do with the fact that Sherlock Holmes was a fictional character!professor

Abortion referendum in Ireland

I'm not sure if over 3,500 women who went abroad for termination, were in a life threatening situation... and there will be countless more if the decision to overturn the 8th amendment was put into practice!

Abortion referendum in Ireland

I know it's a delicate topic for you & you have all my sympathy.. I know how difficult it can be.( a close friend of mine has a mentally & physically handicapped child) .
Is it not possible for you to work full- time & get help during your work hours?

RE: Split Personalities

Why would you assume I was talking about you?

RE: Split Personalities

I don't see the connection between split personalities & multiple profilers!

Other that the person in question being a bigger idiot that his previous profile, I don't see any change of personality!

Abortion referendum in Ireland

I think this country does look after disabled children .. parents can get benefits for staying at home & caring for their child, which btw , is their moral obligation..
On the subject of handicapped children.. I see no difference between looking after , feeding etc , a disabled child & a pet... and we all know there is no shortage of people willing to do that, so what's the difference?

Abortion referendum in Ireland

There's no way of proving , whether a woman is abusing her body whilst pregnant.
It's all down to her conscience & self guilt .

Abortion referendum in Ireland

The right to live gives everyone an the opportunity.
Many great people have come as a result of one parent families.
It's down to the individual whether that child has a happy life & not the financial aspects involved.

Abortion referendum in Ireland

I know , there was a referendum on that topic just before they voted overwhelmingly for the gay marriage thingy... although that was a little closer , after much debate & deliberation, but they got there in the end!!uh oh

Abortion referendum in Ireland

Yep, you're right, but I wasn't sure if it was just a general observation, or it had a connection to the Irish referendum debate!

Abortion referendum in Ireland

Sole parent is often a choice. Nobody is forcing you to have children out of wedlock, or at least, in a stable relationship...

I agree, nobody plans for children with disabilities, but you can give that child every opportunity to be healthy whilst pregnant.

RE: BBM

Are you referring to fat , overweight, beer bellied, lazy couch potatos, then yes, I can see how women would be attracted to them doh

Abortion referendum in Ireland

It's hardy avoidable , being the focus on all news channels. I'm surprised no one touched on the topic earlier!
What would be the reason for termination, other than a selfish act.
Most pregnancies can be avoided & even after careful consideration, there are always regrets.

Abortion referendum in Ireland

There are always risks in pregnancy & some defect cannot be traced.
It's the parents responsibility to give the child the quality of life it deserves , whether it is born with deficiencies or not.
There is a limit of 3 months into the pregnancy , where termination can be carried out , if that's what you're referring to!

Abortion referendum in Ireland

Agreed, but sometimes there are complications during pregnancy, which was highlighted in this campaign, when Savita halappanava was denied an abortion when doctors told her miscarriage was inevitable and she died of sepsis as a result.

Abortion referendum in Ireland

But it does happen and parents have to live with the guilt & consequences.
It's about mothers taking responsibility for their actions during pregnancy, by giving the baby every chance to be fit & healthy.

Abortion referendum in Ireland

The problem with lax abortion laws is, that more & more women will fall pregnant, without any consideration for the unborn baby, when abortion will be an easy opt out !
This isn't a case of rights to abort, as much as a moral issue.
If abortion was allowed in extreme circumstances, i.e., life threatening, then this referendum wouldn't be an issue.

Abortion referendum in Ireland

People will still find a way to abort an unwanted pregnancy.. last year, over 3,000 women travelled abroad to terminate their pregnancy from Ireland, predominantly in the U.K.!
So in hindsight, the 8th amendment, in theory, may deter abortion, but will not stop it!

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