OK, then we agree on the fact which these are to me enough proofs and to you not enough. But if the proofs of God are not enough. But also for the evolution. Only as a hypothesis: How has the world originated?
I do not say that I can also not wander. But it goes book the God or the science around "proofs" or "facts". There are in the science enough theories which were only hypotheses, then were checked and then as a theory were published. Where is the "proof guidance" for God? And even 95% of agreement of the DNA with a banana. How there are these 95% compatible with the theory of God? I find to "prove" uniqueness of the person by creating from God a difference of at least 50% would have to be there according to my opinion. But as said, the science can state countless, very logical theories. From religious side höhrt one always only " faith in it " or God needs no proofs. I find the science proofs if should present, also, however, has to go religion.
Just that is the point. Since that the science admits immediately having been wrong. I have still met no believer, that admits certain points in their theory that could be wrong. Of course "confidence" I to the science. It seems to me more logical, than to believe in an " old man with beard". Of course the big bang is not tangibly post knowable. But evolution is a fact. One proves that the person is descended from the monkey (by genetics, bones they were found et cetera). If this already shows that the creation apprenticeship does not function therefore, why I should believe then with the big bang in God? n nobody relegion I have ever belonged, God did the monkey and from it became the person. Or God did the person very like the monkey. The religion says, God formed the person after his effigy. And the fact that the person is unique under all creatures. How it can be then that we have almost identical genetic codes with those of mice. Or people gape see the same way us?
To the infallibility of God. Our today's humanity, was not the God's first attempt. He needed several approaches. How does it fit with the infallibility together the God not with first sometimes everything properly did? Nevertheless, he would have had to know that the first attempt would fail. If he knows everything, why he has killed then everything by the sensory flood?
But the hypothesis of evolution are more touchable as a construct of god. In evolution you can see with own eyes the development of the life. You can see in a frog childhood the the crossing of the life of the water to the land. One can explain, in the meantime, the chemical process which has led to the first "living" protozoon. It has even been repeated in the lab. There is natural God as well as evolution a theory. Everything in the world is a construct. But where are the "proofs" the God book? In the evolution I at least even have sturdy proofs like bone, frogs et cetera. As well as mathematical, chemical and physical formulae to me everything can "explain". What God explain to me? In the sciencetheory there are at least attempts something to be able to explain. If one liked to work of somebody this of God explained got, one receives only dogmas and facts which were set up for centuries church history and power aspiration.Of course something new is discovered in the science over and over again and old doctrines are recognised as wrong. In relegion there is not such a mental beginning. Wort this is wort because it is there simply. This is mostly questioned the only explanation if one somebody about the faith in God.Such a stiff one displeases me as a thinking person stick.
I think, at the beginning, when the humans were still a young race,if they needed " a concept " with them to themselves the world could explain. Because they had not the knowledge of sciences. Understandably. the fact that they saw God then, for example, in a cloud. But after a while, if people have been among them after power strove. There is by all age through, single persons are a little more clever than the rest. These people used the ignorance of the others from around power to attain. They terrified the people. And they made everything believing that they could speak with "God". In every religion whether practices extinct or still there are higher put people with power and control of the rest. I think all miracles , made from some clever man. In old antique temples one can see, for example, mechanisms by which priest could speak in the rear part " with thundering voice " to the people. This was very fear-giving for unknowing people. The Bible, for example, is a very old book, and one should have read them(it) at least sometimes.It is no Original text. She became from more than 5000 single works together. In the year 370 instructed the pope Damasus I the dalmatian Hieronymus to join everything to one book. Called in the beginning : The Vulgata. The secretary of the pope changed these Vulgata then at more then 3500 places. For example, Hieronymus mentions the Trinity from the first letter Johannes in none of his duplicates. But in book, which was presented to the Conzil by Trento this passage is included. Even theologians see, in the meantime, in it a forgery. On 15.01.1897 there was a papal decree that the Trinity belong to the steady component of the new testament and the change was inspired by the holy mind. And already everything was good again. This is only a recording of 1000 changes. I think that it is easier for most people the guilt to look with a higher being, than to take over even responsibility for her life. And the whole idea of God and the sin and the devil et cetera, the people help " men of God " to change the subject and to control. Why is the faith in God in spite of science and evolution there still? Because the human mind has problems to grasp something, like the infinite universe.We do not understand that at the beginning nothing was. And then from this nothing, a little bit the as gigantic as the universe has originated. So we search the explanation with God. It is easier just, than to think independently and to extend his horizon. In the beginning of the humanity, the people could not explain the existence of a rainbow. We can book it, in the meantime, academically. For the people at that time all that could have created only God. The same mental beginning like with the big bang today. What is really provable, is the evolution. One finds human skeletons of all kinds. From the monkey up to the homo sapiens. No chance for Adam and Eva. As well as? If one does not say that Adam and Eva had sons. These take itself women and generated children again.Where did the women come, however if, nevertheless, Adam and Eva were the only people in the world?
No, i didn´t read your profile. But i think it´s different think to write in this forum, where many people read this, and getting a personal IM, which that guy that send it to you with a very personal intention. In the forum you have the choise if you want to talk with someone or not. By persenol interesst in an IM i think he should read my profile first. Or they should send a mail or a flower, which i can answer, sorry I´m not interested.
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