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RE: IS 'HEAVEN' OTHER PEOPLE?

Just a breif exerpt from the documentary I watched...


The strangest and most disturbing fact that scientists uncovered while investigating the atom was a law called "Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle".

In a nutshell, this states that atoms are in more than one place at the same time until a conscious observer looks at them.

Think about this for a moment - if no-one's looking at the atoms that, say, make up your hand, they're effectively spread out across the entire Universe.

Then when someone, maybe even you, looks at your hand, the atoms instantly coalesce into the hand-like shape you're familiar with.

Of course, this is an extreme example. We know that once trillions of atoms bind together to make up everyday objects, like your hand, they stop behaving in a weird spread-out way but no one really knows when and how they switch from one state to the other.

The point is, it seems arbitrary where we draw the line between the strangeness of the atomic realm and the commonsense world of our senses.

If ideas like this make your head hurt, don't worry. Even Albert Einstein, who as a young man pioneered atomic physics, was horrified by the idea that we somehow "invent" the Universe every time we look at it.

He said: "I like to think that the Moon is there even if I am not looking at it."


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RE: IS 'HEAVEN' OTHER PEOPLE?

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I see your point, and agree up to a point.

We are beings Aries...we live, observe and think. That reality is obvious.

But what comprises that reality is still relatively unknown, and will continue to amaze us when new discoveries are stumbled upon.

Personally, I'm against the sort of 'romanticism' that permeates some thinkers on this issue...that it's all 'illusory'.

That's pointless in my view...leads to nothing but confussion of concepts.

What ELSE is out there/around us/makes up our universe...now that's what fascinates me.

And how it acts...how it responds...how it can be explained, as you say, only an open minded approach to science can help us learn more.

Wonderful thread!cheers

RE: IS 'HEAVEN' OTHER PEOPLE?

Many apple-bogies to you Al...quite right.cheers

I'm just sick and tired of agreeing with you!laugh


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RE: IS 'HEAVEN' OTHER PEOPLE?

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True Al, but those 'conclussions' often lead to the birth of many more theories that test the powerful creative thinking of scientists.

It seems to me to be an ongoing train of seamless theory, discovery, understanding, which leads to more theory discovery and understanding!laugh

Truly Al, I was amazed. Quantum Mechanics is such an awe inspiring branch of science...terribly powerful and extremely intuitive.

These guys had hunch's and just went for it. Paul Diraq, Richard Feinman, Nils Bohr...staggering intellectual power AND the ability to creatively conceptualize.

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I watched a fascinating documentary on the atom...WOW!wow

Really, we don't know the half of it...and that WAS the conclussion of the Professor o fQuantum Mechanics hosting the show.

Parallel univers's...the theory that atoms only materialise for measurement when focussed upon...that what we see is the result of the energy given off by atoms...quarks...anti matter...simply stunning food for thought and consideration.

An open mind is vital!!!!!

Hell, to have drawn scientific conclussions upon what little we know is simply folly when such things are considered.

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Made the first move once...the only time I really 'wanted' a woman.smitten

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RE: Leyla Rae

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RE: help me.. I need a middle name.....

Oops...if last name is beginning with M, maybe Genevieve?

RE: help me.. I need a middle name.....

Leyla...pretty. I was gonna call one of my daughters Layla...after my first ever girl friend.

Her and her 2 friends came up to my 2 mates and I who were sat down on a bench. Brief negotiations took place between the girls and she got first pick.

"I'll 'ave 'im" she said.smitten

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Morgan could I suggest?handshake

RE: Please don't include me in votes

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RE: Does this annoy you?

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Holy crap, that's a nigh on perfect lil setting you describe!love

RE: Please don't include me in votes

See your point Chris...but I for one try to be as real as possible, and JBL also I'd imagine.

Warts and all...no sacharine sweet just to be percieved as 'good' person.

Just me...and my flaws.wine

Accept The American Way, Or Face The Consequences!

Great post...much appreciated contribution.cheers

RE: Polls asking you to choose one member over another

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RE: For everyone an CS and around this beautiful world.

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Accept The American Way, Or Face The Consequences!

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Wow...great stuff.handshake

Accept The American Way, Or Face The Consequences!

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At last...we're getting somewhere!!!!!


So American alturism, which I've always admired by the way, is in fact damaging it's own social structure?

Mmmm...this is interesting.

Do you think America is making an error in seeking to solve problems by it's foriegn policy when it could be focussing more attention to it's own people?wine

Accept The American Way, Or Face The Consequences!

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So, what's the solution in your opinion mate? A more inward looking government policy towards societies ills?

I mean, how do you stress the virtues of stable family life in this day and age?

This issue has enormous import, as the foundation for any great nation is the family unit.

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Accept The American Way, Or Face The Consequences!

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Zeig heil to you Ship!!!peace

Accept The American Way, Or Face The Consequences!

Thanks for that...great post with worthy sentiments!cheers

Once again, I must stress, American people are not the issue of this thread. Bush became a point of discussion because...well, he's Bush.laugh

But equally, you are quite right, we could look at either China or Russia and debate their coming influence on the world scene.

Good post!cheers

Accept The American Way, Or Face The Consequences!

Indy, if people could read more than one sentence, remove themselves from this frighteningly blind national loyalty, and objectify, we'd have had a good time on this thread.

As it is, there's too much paranoia and inferred anti-Americanism.

The OP was clear enough.

Looked like the small minded amongst your fine country was almost looking for any chance to take offence.

JMO

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So...what ha the American Dream become folks?

What does it stand for, and how do you think it's changed?

Once again, american opinion very much appreciated.wine


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Based on the OP...which it seemed was all toosimply overlooked.doh

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Not as valid source on my own frickin' thread and my posts?


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Accept The American Way, Or Face The Consequences!

"You find the idea that I accept resonsibility for the actions of the government that I participated in choosing unpleasant?
Why?
I find it much more unpleasant that someone would not accept thier responsibilities for thier actions or lack of action.

I see no reason for counseling, since I accept my share of responsibility.
Do YOU? "


So you participated in choosing it, but never voted for it...right?

Accept The American Way, Or Face The Consequences!

Nowt = Nothing.

Government makes the laws. The Judiciary then applies them. the Government submit to law also.

So the law is entirely seperate in it's opperation and application.wine

Accept The American Way, Or Face The Consequences!

Good comments.wine

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