well IF imaginary beings can make you that certain, you ought to be able to porduce the proof of its truth. In the mean time I'll find my own hot stuff... generally in naked and amazing female parts since I have a preference for reality
actually Dru already confirmed god is superfluous, unnecessary in the bigger scheme of things, so you'll just have to accept it ... or expect to go to hell in the end ...
oddly enough the people who brought us the current monetary system are right wing christain bulletheads, so it applicable .. Some countires even have god named all over their currency to imprint the ideology.
a value based system would be much better, but that doesn't serve these elite bakurd's need for power and greed.
another point I might make is ... then what do we need this god for? seems he has become superfluous, indeed unneeded in context of your point yes? which may indeed be a better point than I can make or have so far for putting down the gun god he is unnecessary as you say.
unproven Dru ... and it will be difficult to prove I admit, but your conclusion has no basis in fact.
I am merely suggesting you think it, about removing the god factor, because it is that god factor that controls our world ... world events, world peace, world mood, world economics and much more, and I am speaking at a much higher level than simple personal beliefs ... though the more who personally support that belief (the same as theirs) grow the numbers and the ideology for those who do control our world and have for centuries. History is quite clear about who they are as well.
were it just about having a personal god, then there would be no debate. The problem is that there is a very promoted and well sold god with a rather large gun, the elephant in the room that people are missing.
Think about it .. you cannot get elected to office, to nay high seat of power in the world, unless you have this god by your side...
Boy, you sure know where to find the pressure points E..
read the whole comment, these people refers to the people who emotionally transfer their own feelings and sense of god belief over to atheism... god belief strategy doesn't not function in or as atheism.
I don't control world peace, religion does ... to point this at me as though there is some personal plot to wipe out your singular unproveable beliefs is erroneous. The world needs to drop the gun, god.
make that as personal as you like.
And I have agreed with some of your points, even if you missed them or don't care to acknowledge them, so your tantrum is nothing more than that, a tantrum when your view is challenged.
seems you oppose being convinced at the expense of being informed...
these people are attempting to apply their god beleif strategies and ideology to atheism (emotional transference) ...instead of learning about it as its own entity..
what sort of tolerance doesn't not investigate what it opposes.
umm no .. that same single celled organsim (that we came from) is still live and well on this planet today (and in the atmosphere of saturns moon Titan as well) and probably other planets though thats conclusive only by mathematical probability.
the point here is E, that there are no Athiests in office to go to war. Find me an office of control in any country where the leader is elected without a god on his arm. And if you do find any, I am willing to bet they were exponged by religious edict rather summarily.
I do!!! that's who. and I find it very sad that more don't care.
POINT ..glad you asked... There is a difference between intolerance and righteous indignation. There is a difference between the guy shooting the gun and the guy who finds its deplorable that he is allowed to shoot people with impunity.
well I dont see people strapping bombs to themselves just because they want my car I dont see people gathering as a group outside my door with guns because one person wants my car....
I do however see people doing such things because the rewards of heaven and the promise of hell leads them to do such heinous acts for a god there is no proof of.
You are predicting without testing, without variables and conclusive proven results A close minded approach, tends to cut any possibility at all... the conclusion is moot without test, yes? Remove your god from your mind, what do we have to debate? A simple test. What religion is better then another when it has no god? simple tests.
Also as I said before the very nature of religion and its proponents is supremist dogma that is seperatist, divisive, engendering oppostion.
Humans will evolve, how and where, is anyone's guess..
no no no .. most people are not bigoted here Von and I ceratinly dont consider you are in any way. Clearly!... and intolerance is not to be tolerated. And I think you'll agree...IF one has a god, he/she/it need not be religious? IF there is a God - he doesn't need armies, doesn't need salesmen, doesn't need surpemacy, he would already be supreme yes? ... that's the point I was making. Religious gods are stuctured bigotry for human supremacy. Religious gods foment oppostion, war, intolerance for others.
and if your god stays within the confines of your own mind then great... if your god is the god that uses genocide, eugenic cleansing, stoning (yes that still goes on today) and other ehinous behaviors; then intolerance is being subjected only to arguement, not resolution Dru.
youre still applying your god belief requirements to atheism.
Atheism doesn't need beleif, there is nothing to believe in you see.
Nothing to have faith in you see ....
Atheism isnt the 'belief enemy' of god .. it can't be because there is no god ... understand ...youre tendency to transfer your belief system variables to athesim is your need to see it as the enemy of your beliefs, not atheism as its own entity.
this typifies a beleivers need to find and root out the enemy of belief ... religiously inspired that is, find the enemy and create opposition.
youre still applying your god belief requirements to atheism.
Atheism doesn't need beleif, there is nothing to believe in you see.
Nothing to have faith in you see ....
Atheism isnt the 'belief enemy' of god .. it can't be because there is no god ... understand ...youre tendency to transfer your belief system variables to athesim is your need to see it as the enemy of your beliefs, not atheism as its own entity.
this typifies a beleivers need to find and root out the enemy of belief ... religiously inspired that is, find the enemy and create opposition.
RE: If You Were Really Honest...
this would be the last place I'd let THAT dog out.
before you know it people are pointing and tellin you to clean up the doglogs of your life
no sirree, that puppie is house pet.