Yeah it sucks.. u can really get to like people on this place and ironically it is the people from places like America or India..or the other bloody side of the planet ..
Any body that I would want to have for dinner on this site.. would have to take a trans atlantic flight
Thats exactly what I believe Christ was.... I am not even convinced that he wanted a whole religion to emerge out of him... I think he was here as a 'spiritual intervention' as u say... to show us the way. .give us the map so to speak.. all he ever spoke of was love and compassion.. he was teaching up the simple way to find harmony... and I believe when he said the only way to God was through him... what was meant was the only way to peace was through love and compassion.. spiritual unity..... makes sense when u think about it
Thats true...compassion would not demand respect/ and wouldn't judge.. he is beyond that... thanks for pointing that out to me.. can't help some times.. thinking with that damned human head of mine
Rudeness.. so unecessary and so unproductive.. if I come accross a rude person.... I am sooo no going to be helpful to them.. in a polite way of course
Lack of patience... if someone makes demands on me.. I make them wait!!....
Cause I have a huge big heart.. I am slow to love.. but when I do its deeply...I am a good friend....I am VERY loyal....I have lost very few friends in this life and still have friends since primary (junior) school.. exept a couple for good reason.... I am a child at heart so I will never lost the party spirit... I am caring and giving.. but I also know who I am and what I want from life and am very independant... I hope that people see me for who I am.. but if they don't thats ok too, cause everyone is entitled to their views... oh.. and I am very passionate... I believe very strongly in thruth and honesty.. and will but myself out there.. even if I know I am going to risk not being popular.. and I stand up for what I believe in and what (I believe) is right..... not everyones cup of T... .. but thats it.. thats me!!
I am sorry Riya.. but he reponded to my post in the first person... referring to me.. in no uncertain times.. what he is saying is ridiculous.. to say the least.. and it misrepresents what actually happened... its like he is lurking.. waiting for something to be said by me and waiting to pounce.. I have been neutral before now and I hope that he will let the whole thing go.. and do the same..
Detente.. yes I am 35 and yes I adore children and definitely want to have them.. u know this.. and you would have known this from the earliest stages of us knowing each other... It has never been a secret.. I am very open about this... PLUS.. because this is something I want in life... it is NOT something I would consider with just anybody.. in fact I would rather take a trip to an artificial insemination clinic.. in total I have only known you since Dec 2007 that is what 3 months.. do you really think.. or do you expect others to think that I was planning a family with you.. I was only getting to know you and although initially I did like you.. I had serious reservations about my feelings for you because I did feel manipulated.. plus I had received a number of warning emails about you...so in the end I finished it... because there was something just not right about what was going on and I started to wonder about the others.. so I emailed them and asked.. I was told all I needed to know and made my decision from their...
To say that I wanted kids with you and to say that I was pressuring u to start a family with me is just proposterous...
U are being very defensive and paranoid why.. I have moved on from this.. I suggest u do the same.. it is NOT all about u Detente.. there was a topic.. I gave my view.. end of... and I have never mentioned ur name on forum..
Yes absolutely... particularly if there have been a number of people who have had a similar or the same kind of experience... relationships end all the time.. it is inevdiable in most cases.. otherwise we would have all married our first boyfriend...the key is honesty really... and as to who you believe.. I agree it is good to hear both sides and not jump to conclusions and then just go with your gut after that.. I did.. not initially because I did not want to believe what I was being told.. but I did eventually and ended it... just said that 'I could not handle the emotional rollercoaster any more..' I really felt like I did not know whether I was coming or going with this person.. I felt like a puppet..
Hmmm - married guys.. despicable...if there are honest about their status at least a person can make an informed choice..
The ones that chat up a variety of women though, and play games.. they are alot more tricky to spot, cause they will tend to be quite charming... and will convince each respective person that this person is very special in a very subtle, not predatory way... I have experienced it myself on here... while I was in the middle of it, I didn't know the half of it... since it has 'ended' so to speak I have heard alot more.. like he had just come back from the US before he came over here to see me... this means of course that he must have been chatting us both up at the same time...telling us the same things no doubt
Which is worse.. hard to say.. a man who plays around on his wife is scum of the earth.. cause his poor wife is probably sitting at home.. making his dinners, raising their children (if they have them) with not a care in the world.. I guess they are both as bad as each other.. cause they are both deceitful
As for naming the person.. on the forums... I don't know I am not comfortable with that.. it seems uneccesarily cruel.. like a public stoning.. the only thing I would be concerned about is others who could be affected by him... these people I would warn by email...
I agree.. like the lovingly decorated home, or meal, creativity and the capacity to be creative is in no way limited to things like music, art, etc.. I just used those as obvious examples...
My sister doesn't paint/draw like the rest of us, but she positively oozes creativity in everything she does... she has a very interesting view of the world too
I don't believe that 'Spirituality' is the exclusive domain of Artistic/Creative people, just that PROPORTIONATELY' it seems to me that they are.. now given that I only know a limited amount of people, here and in the real world, I am open to being wrong in my assumption...
Would you say (in your experience) that non-creative people are proportionately just as Spiritual (as opposed to religious) and what I mean by that is Spiritual people search... ask questions... religious people (who are not spirtual) just accept the teachings of their religion.. no questions asked
p.s I know this could appear a little arrogant.. not meant to be.. just genuinely curious what people think
Spiritual is more internal and personal.. if Spirituality replaced religion for e.g. we would all be free to make our own discoveries and draw our own conclusion as to what 'God' or the universe mean to us..
Our guide morally would also be ourselves and what we reason to be right.. given that most human beings basically want the same things... u would be surprised how much unity this could bring.. religion is a distraction from our own core sense of what is fundamentally right and wrong JMV
I think creative people have a difference way of perceiving and understanding the world.. and I think also we are capable of seeing beauty in the seemingly mundane things around us.. this permits us to 'think outside the box' because we are not prejudiced to the environment around us.. .
e.g. A photographer will see the potential beauty in a homeless old man, pushing a trolly... he will see the human being for who he is and not judge him..
Those who do not use there perceptions in this way will either shudder and see something inconvenient and unpleasant... or something which is to be pitied...
If we agree that creative people have propensity towards these things.. any theories on why?
Your right.. it does in no way discount others.. just an observation of mine.. that of the traditionally 'creative' people that I know, including some that I observe on here.. they just seem to be more 'spiritual' as opposed to 'religious'.. and really have a need to question the whole thing...
Though of course I am not going to assume that this only applies to us..
Are Artists due to their creative tendencies and their more open minded method of expression.... more linked.. to things of the spirit, those things that we can't see, but know (feel) are there?... I am just curious.. because in my experience.. even on these forums. the most spiritually open minded people do tend to be those that are 'creative' in some way.. be it music, painting, poetry. whatever just an observation...
My family are very creative people and we (collectively) as a family have always been very spiritual (kinda hippyish if the truth be know )... so maybe I am just basing this assumption on my own experience..
What do ye think... are they?... and if so.... Why do you think this is the case?
Yes I do.. and I can even consider it as being possible once we can detach ourselves from our minds and ego.. which keep us trapped in this material world.. we seem to be only cognisent of that which we can experience with our senses and understand with our mind within a framework of 'logic' which is limited by our 'knowledge'
Hiya ... will you explain this concept of Astral Plane to me? I have heard bits about Astral projection and all that kind of stuff.. but I am not sure conceptually what an 'Astral Plane' represents..
Absolutely..:clapping:... this is why.. I miss u when u decide to disappear.. I love a good debate... and while we don't always agree I enjoy the points u make.. and believe it or not I do take them on board
Ha.. and I knew you would make these points also ...
For the purpose of the illustration of the point you have to assume that the Generator just exists!! ok?
As to the behaviour of plants and the animal kingdom.. perhaps becoming more like them is our aim.. perhaps like the prodical son.. we have to go out there.. make our mistakes.. think we know it all and ultimately come to the realisation that there are no magic complex formula or answer and that the purpose of our existence is to do just that.. exist.. be.. to understand the world provides us with all that we need.. enough for everyone... nature doesn't question its existence, it just lives in harmony with the rest of nature.. taking what is necessary..no more..
I would compare the evolution of the human soul as having come through three stages.. childhood.. around the time of Moses etc... where we just simply didn't know better.... adolecence... where we think we know it all!! (currently in the final stages of this phase) and adulthood which would be a phase of enlightened collective consciousness and a better understanding of why we are all here...
It may take the complete destruction of our present facade to make us realise this.. but I believe it will happen.. this could be what is meant by the end of the world JMV..
p.s... OMG.. I find it sooo hard to debate with u.. u r just too damn good at this .. ur points are always so logical..
Can I put it to u this way.... the source of electricity is a generator... the electricity is not the generator(although it is part of it and created by it).. While we share in Gods spirit and energy and he is the source of this.. we are not him.... my flatmate believes that we are God also.. or more that we are co-creators.. I still have to give this much thought... but somehow it just doesn't fit for me.. I think he gave us free will and in a sense we create our destiny, this is a special gift bestowed on us which does not appear present in other members of the animal kingdom.. and I think free will is central to understanding God (or the Universal plan) and unlocking the mystery of why we are all here..., but I think when it comes to the universe and all that is in it.. including us.. I believe that he is the source..
Hiya B.... I chose the third option.. cause its the closest to what I think.... with one qualification... although I think we are all linked and a part of the universe and everything in it.. like a single continium of energy.... I do not think God IS us per se..although I believe he is IN us and is the source of this energy... so although we are very closely linked to God.. he is the Alpha, the Omega, the Source.... Now I am still in the process of understanding all this.. so am not 100% sure in my own mind as to what is 'God'.... Though this is presently what makes most sense to me
RE: Say Something to Someone no need to name names
Pog Ma Thon....