RE: How Many Aethiests Have Changed Their Minds ?

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RE: How Many Aethiests Have Changed Their Minds ?

My Italian friends all have a saying... "It will be a good day when I wake up and Berlusconi is no longer in office and the Pope has moved back to France" laugh

RE: Today's thought..............

laugh Is having a different take shooting the messenger??? I thought the point was to create discussion not just agree...devil

RE: How Many Aethiests Have Changed Their Minds ?

I had a little chuckle when I read this... I think you´ll find that while many atheists were once believers, it´s pretty rare that it goes the other way...laugh

RE: No love in humanity

Wow... so jaded for one so young. Maybe you should take a look at what your expectations of love are and figure out if they are realistic or based on the fantasies that seem to prevail in society. Personally I don´t believe in "falling in love" ... I believe that we "grow in love".

By finding someone that we are compatable with, someone we physically desire, and someone who we sincerely enjoy spending time with we start the process.

To me love grows over an extended time of supporting and nurturing each other, of experiencing hardships and celebrations together.

RE: Today's thought..............

Well Pat... I have to disagree with you on this, I think that detachment is the wrong term and I sincerely hope I never experience detachment...

1. The act or process of disconnecting or detaching; separation.
2. The state of being separate or detached.
3. Indifference to or remoteness from the concerns of others;
4. Absence of prejudice or bias; disinterest:

The examples that you give don´t really describe detachment... when you are watching fireworks, normally you are experiencing pleasure, wonder, etc. Watching your child draw a person would experience such things as pride, amusement, pleasure... non of these emotions show a state of detachment.

Just my point of view. wine

RE: Will Congress lift travel-restrictions now imposed on USA-Citizens?

Actually it´s nice that there is still somewhere to go that prices haven´t been driven up by US tourism...laugh

RE: Don't cry because it's over... smile because it happened. Discuss.

Every experiences we have contributes to the person we are today and no matter how difficult it may be at times to move on and leave something or someone behind we should be thankful that we were able to have those experiences, emotions, learning experiences.

How empty our lives would be and how little we would grow if each relationship or opportunity was the only one we experienced in our lives.

Great quote Owen! bouquet

RE: What is hunting for you?

I agree that mankind is a destructive force on this earth and that there are many environmental issues that should be dealt with... but what does that have to do with the topic of being a hunter, a meat eater or a vegetarian?

I´m sure that you use electricity and probably drive a car or use public transportation...(even if you ride a bike the rubber from your tires is dangerous to the environment) you live in a home that has displaced animals... we all take from the environment and it should be done in a more responsible manner but the fact that you are a vegetarian does not make you any less damaging to the world we live in.

RE: What is hunting for you?

...and animal babies are left without mothers or mothers without babies in nature through the natural predatory system... Why do you make such an issue of mankind being a part of that natural system?

RE: What is hunting for you?

We are a part of nature and the cycle of nature... by creating our homes and cities natural predators have been killed off, if not for hunters deer would become extinct due to the destruction of their environment. Dogs can get by on a vegetarian diet but it´s not what they are by nature... they are carnivores. Do you get upset when a lion kills for food? Man has incicors... hence we are by nature carnivores. I hate cruelty to animals and despise the "feed lot" system of raising beef and the systems in place for "growing" chickens and producing eggs. I was raised on a farm where we produced our own food with free range cattle and chickens and have no problem eating what we raised and still try to purchase products when ever possible that are organic and free range... but I am a meat eater and do not apologize for being so.

RE: What is hunting for you?

I get so pissed at vegetarians that claim they don´t kill living creatures in the consumption of their food. Have you ever seen a field that has been plowed??? The devastation to the animals that have their burrows and homes in the field is horrible. Little furry creatures sliced and diced by plows... at least the death of a cow is quick... some of these little creatures lie in agony for hours before they die after being plowed up and injured... so please don´t preach that your way of life doesn´t harm other living creatures!!!!

Nature is what it is... we all survive off of other species on the earth and our presence alone destroys other life. The land we take to create our homes takes it away from creatures that would have lived there etc. so you are being a hypocrite when you claim that by being a vegetarian you don´t harm or kill other living creatures!

RE: What do you think of plagiarized postings?

This reminds me of a situation last year when someone did a cut and paste and was complimented for such a well written and thought out reply... and said thank you. Shortly after someone posted the cut and paste with the appropriate reference....Busted!!!! laugh

RE: How Independent Are You?

Your Independence Level: Very High
You do things your own way. Even if everyone else thinks you're wrong.
You cherish your freedom, and you resent rules.
No one knows what's right for you as much as you do.
You can take care of yourself... and you do a mighty fine job of it.



Hmmmmmmmm I think I´m seeing a trend here.... could this be why we´re all still single???? A bit toooooooo independent maybe? laugh

RE: Do you think youth around my age need permission from parents to have a date?

Then I guess you need to answer your own question... Which is more important to you...

Having a boyfriend or respecting your mom?

RE: the best male actor ever

I have to say... Kevin Spacey, John Malkovich and Gregory Peck... I´m also a closet Vin Diesel fan....blushing

RE: Do you think youth around my age need permission from parents to have a date?

As several people have stated... cultural and family lifestyles come into this question but also finances come into it as well. Are you still financially dependent on your parents? If so then they have a lot to say about how you live your life and what you do. If you are financially independent than you should have more freedom to make choices in your life.

RE: ladies...which of these Top 30 Forum regulars would make...

Which "top 30" ? Am I missing something????laugh

RE: How Rare Is Your Personality?

Your Personality is Very Rare (INTP)
Your personality type is goofy, imaginative, relaxed, and brilliant.

Only about 4% of all people have your personality, including 2% of all women and 6% of all men
You are Introverted, Intuitive, Thinking, and Perceiving.


Gotta love that whole "brilliant" thing... laugh

RE: Is anyone else amazed at what people are calling "average" body type these days?

First you need to define "average".... "a standard or level which is considered to be typical or usual."

And then take a look around you... the average person weighs more than the so called desirable weight for their height. Obesity has reached epic proportions in America and Britain... so in this day and age "average" is usually somewhat over weight.

RE: something all should know...

I understand perfectly what you are saying... I just don´t agree with it. What good are you as a friend if you can´t share the pain of loss? How can you have empathy for those who suffer if you are incapable of suffering yourself? Your heart pouring out love doesn´t comfort another as the ability to share pain does. So basiclly I feel that the ideas you portray to be somewhat selfish and leaves you cut off from the rest of us poor fools who are in the trenches experiencing joy and pain as we go through life.

I would find sitting on my mountain pouring out love to the grass and the ants and humanity at large a very empty life.

RE: something all should know...

I have to disagree with what you say...

A heart that is open will always be vulnerable to suffering, it will also be available to great joy. It is incredibly selfish to only put out a stream of love... we must also be available to receive love and a loss will obviously cause pain. Can there be any greater pain than losing a child?? That pain is equal to the incredible unconditional love a parent has for a child.

Without darkness there is no light, without pain there is no joy. Our lives are a balance of negative and positive and to live only one side of that is to live only half a life.

RE: A small advice for women :) To help you NOT TO COMPLICATE

It is easier to get the nuances live and in person... I never take anything too seriously on line... it´s better for my mental stability....laugh

RE: A small advice for women :) To help you NOT TO COMPLICATE

I do find you really amusing... everytime I make a point you find it necessary to try to analyze me and are wrong on every point... but if trying to insult me or make assumptions about my personality is the only way you can feel good about yourself than fire away...laugh I´m off to work.

RE: A small advice for women :) To help you NOT TO COMPLICATE

There is a big difference between an intelligent man speaking his mind and someone spouting a load of rubbish that intends to put women down but in reality puts men down as idiots... just because you need things told to you "in the simplest manner"... doesn´t mean that all men do. Oh and I don´t own any cats... but share a lovely black lab with a good male friend.

RE: A small advice for women :) To help you NOT TO COMPLICATE

Oh come on now... it´s all in good fun isn´t it?laugh We learn so much more about each other during a bit of a scuffle than when it´s all nicey nicey...laugh

RE: A small advice for women :) To help you NOT TO COMPLICATE

If it was always lovey dovey things would get a bit boring don´t you think???? I´ll bet your best friends are women.wink

RE: A small advice for women :) To help you NOT TO COMPLICATE

WE CAN NOT READ SIGNS, WE CAN NOT KNOW WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON IN YOUR HEAD IF U SPEAK IN CODES, AND WHEN WE DON'T UNDERSTAND YOU DO NOT COME OUT WITH - - - -"HOW CAN U NOT KNOW I TOLD YOU AND SHOWED YOU" - - - - that is load of crap, cos u did not say it and showed in the simplest possible way and trust me, if u do that, us men will be actually able to take u in to account and adjust. You would be amazed, what NOT COMPLICATING CAN DO

Sounds like an idiot to me....laugh

RE: A small advice for women :) To help you NOT TO COMPLICATE

No... just guys who seem to be a bit more evolved than the views expressed on the initial post...laugh It´s far from the first time I´ve heard these views... I´m just really protective of the guys who don´t share them and hate to see them tarred with the same brush.laugh So yes... I do sometimes come out guns blazing when I think someone has posted on behalf of all men or women.... that and sometimes it´s just fun to have a bit of a skuffle...laugh

RE: A small advice for women :) To help you NOT TO COMPLICATE

You are sooooo far off base it´s not even funny. My close friends have always been men... and now what you are saying goes completely against what your initial post said...laugh rolling on the floor laughing

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