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Let us talk our 'free healthcare' delivered to us by the Obama administration.

If I am taxed for something. Is it free? Or does it have a cost?

The ACA has been determined to be a tax by the Supreme Court of the country.

We pay taxes for....our local our schools. For our national security and the DoD. For our roads and bridges. For our national weather service. I could go on, but I think you get the point. Taxes are a cost to the private business sector and individuals Americans.

So let us return to the ACA. Is our coming 2014 healthcare free? Or will it cost something to us in taxes?

All of liberal Europe came into this American debate in 2009 and 2010.
To tell us of their 'free health care'. They so desired the United State to be like a 'free' European health care system model. We said in rebuttal....you have higher tax rates, so you pay for your healthcare.

That satisfied few Europeans. They still slipped the desk nurse a health card and got the medical services needed. No money exchanged hands, so had to be free.

So now....is there any doubt that with the ACA, higher taxes will come to the United States? And we have every right to call those taxes, a cost to us?

Good debates go on and on and on they say. We intend to end this one on November 6th. I hope you don't mind.......

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The former police officer, Drew Peterson was convicted of murdering his 3rd wife after 13 hours of jury dilberation. According to Arch Bishop Tutu, GWB and Cheney helped him move the blue plastic 80 gallon barrel after his fourth wife disappeared. grin doh

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Pundits are saying it was a rehashed message of 2008, that he failed on in the first time.

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Senator John Kerry, that hardened Vet Nam warrior that returned stateside after after sustaining two flesh wounds that required several stitches.....wants us to ask bin Laden if he is better off today?

Not likely we can do that. The lethal wounds inflicted on bin Laden were slightly more serious than the two on John. Though when John does speak all of Vet Nam now does listen intently.

John Kerry is pushing to replace Hillary Clinton as Obama's next sect of state, was semi-stellar last night at the DNC. Semi-Stellar, one can think of dieing star. Get it?

Kerry repeated Obama's message that Russia is not our greatest single national security threat. John must know. I feel so much safer knowing that John Kerry might be the next Sect of State and he feels Russia is not a threat. When Russia is in Syria and telling the US and Israel attacking Iran....would be 'disastrous'.



I feel so much safer when the next Obama administration has such a keen awareness of the threats facing the United States. That alQeada is a bigger threat than Russia or China...........I am resting better already!

By the way....I have found a web site that sells the decommissioned and civilian converted missile silos of the Cold War days. If any need to look for a safe digs buried 7 stories deep in the ground with operating nuclear blast doors, if Obama wins....send me a email. I will pass it on. rolling on the floor laughing

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Biden says "we have turned the corner." That is likely true.....we turned the corner on a road that is not on the GPS map and we cannot see the fiscal cliff ahead of us.grin

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So Dude having watched both Clinton's and Obama's addresses. Which one do you consider better?

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A recent joke on a Ukraine radio station.

See how bad the economy of the USA is?
The President has to make his own beer and cannot buy it!

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I would like to make the point. On Obama's..."Romney is in a Cold War warp and that alQeada is a bigger threat to America that Russia is."

Russia did not have 13 spies in this country because it 'loved America'. It had 13 spies in this country that were actively engaged in espionage and were caught and released by the Obama administration to return to Russia.

The 13 Russian spies did not face serious prison time. Nor did the Obama administration ever go public with the material that they had obtained. So it had to be somewhat classified and related to national security.

The last I looked (to borrow a phrase here)...bin Laden is dead and alQeada is barely alive. But Russia has 2500 nuclear devices on Topol-M and other missiles that can be aimed at America. Russia just had a sub sitting off the Houston, Texas coast for 60 day undetected.
So you tell me who the bigger threat to American security is? Russia that can blow it off the map? Or alQeada that sends a underwear bomber
that cannot ignite his shorts.

It is the President that is in a time warp here. With both Russia and China modernizing their military, while spying intensely on America.
He is stuck in the great 911 debate of the Islamic threat. Of the Sadam Hussien and Iraq. And wanting to Nation Build the poorest country on earth, Afghanistan. While two very large and very powerful Nations states with very real armies, navies and air forces that have no love for America arm.

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The US Navy SEAL that wrote ...No Easy Day....simply broke the NDA agreement by having his attroney and publisher see it. Is now the finding of DoD's top attroney.



So if you are in the military, you can tell the world you are GAY and nothing will happen to you. But if you submit a document to a attroney the DoD will fall on you?

Rising your hand to take the oath of service commits you to the Constitution of the United States. One of small clauses....that seems to be ignored in this case.....is the clause on freedom of speech and press.

This really is disappointing. Men and women have died for the that one
clause in the Constitution. Obama's DoD seems to have found a way to breach the Constitution, to protect a President.

No Easy Day is at the top of the New York Times book list. Audio.com
book listeners gave it 15 of 15 stars. It is a literary work. Much better than some of the 'literary works' that are court protect and defended by the left's legal eagles.

So under this ruling, any service member (with a security clearance) that simply submits a document to outside experts (accountants, attroneys, doctors) is subject to DoD charges for breaking his security NDA. So the military will have no whistle blowers, no one to step outside the chain of command, no one to tell the public what really happened when a famed NFL football player is killed on the battlefield.

I remember how indignant the country was when the military command under GBW covered up the death of Pat Tillman. What outrage! It came right from the Oval Office. Had to! Then of course GBW had several DoD investigations and slowly.....very slowly after members in Tillman unit used civilian attroneys and the press to go public with the events. The truth came out. It was a friendly fire death.

What happens on the battlefield is so seldom what the public images a honorable military can do. But the simple fact is....had the Navy Chief...simply twittered his photos of the dead bin Laden.... like the photos of the Marines urinating of the dead Taliban....that got light discplinary letters in their records. He would be better off today!

Is the American public so soft and needs to be coddled to protect it from the truth of what happens in battle is often messy, and deadly, and grotesque? Because God help us, if and when the American people forget that. Or is that a President cannot have the 'official version' of bin Laden death questioned in a election year?

According to Joe Biden last night, the American public is courageous and take anything and can do anything.....that does not sound like it needs any coddling to me. So it must be the later, and not the former.

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Yahoo had a online interactive poll going on. The question was who gave the better address Obama or Romney?

Score was Obama 46 and Romney 49



A second poll was ....will killing bin Laden help you to vote for Barack Obama?

Score was Yes 30% and No 69%

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When you invest in and support liberals (like Julian Assange and firms like Solydrna) you are more likely to lose your investment.



They will walk away from the tough situation, from the challenge, from the pressure...seeking the easy course.

This is exactly what the Obama/Biden administration did with NASA.
NASA was faced with tough situations and tough challenges. The Obama/Biden administration walked away from it. NASA was left hanging after they developed under the orders of GWB administration, a entirely new manned launch system, the Aries/Constellation. They had worked 1000s of man hours to develop the Aries/Constellation, invest several billion. And had the Obama/Biden administration turn its back on them in tough time.

In ending the two manned NASA programs, the Obama/Biden administration
ended the careers of NASA employees and contractors. At the same time it made Space jobs in Russia to transport astronauts to the ISS!





Obama/Biden praising the auto bailout and recovery at the same time not telling the NASA story......is well ........hypocritical.

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Paul Ryan on NASA Importance to our National Security

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With the long term controversey of our NASA Apollo Lunar program making a actual landing on the moon....which dishonors the lives and memories of Apollo astronauts. Because it say they lied abou tmaking the vouyage to the moon.

I would like to submit these photos taken by a NASA satellite orbiting Mars of the rover Curiosity on the Martian surface.



We went to moon one time and we will return again and again and again.....

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If the DEM are 'truly proud' of our troops in Iran and Afghanistan.....why do they keep them from having Victory parades in Major cities of the country on returning from foreign deployments?

Returning troops from the first Gulf War had major victory parades in our cities.

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REP reply to Charlie Christ's DNC address



Christ has a negative 44% approval rating and a positive 33% approval rating in Florida.

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bin Laden is dead and GM is alive and NASA is stripped

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Well Dude have a good stay in Charlotte and enjoy the DNC. Don't let the Obama tingle go to far up the leg tonight. It gets dangerous above the knee cap.

Like Romney, I going to pass on watching it. I can pick it up tomorrow online.

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Clinton messed up about 3/5th of his memorized address. Here a comparison of what he said to what he wrote.



doh

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I hope Putin did not get lost. All he had to do was fly south......


rolling on the floor laughing So he was the lead crane......and they were all following him......they ended up in Chechnya...were Muslim extremists used shot guns and manpads to knock them out of the air.....

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Debbie Wasserman Schultz on the God and Jersalum correction.....



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Putin just gave stronger endorsement of President Obama.....calling him a honest man that Russia can work with. wink wink

But said he will work whom is elected.

While saying the Romney has Russia all wrong and that if he is elected the air defense system that he deploy in Poland would be against
Russia.



Rumor here is that Putin had offered to fly into the Charlotte stadium as peaked crane on motorized hang glider....and was sadly disappointed when it was moved inside....)))

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This is going to make grown men wince and a mature women cry.

But a article on Hollywood celebrities views on Michelle Obama's DNC address.

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More innovative European technology for the Obama administration to invest in. Like Fiscker.....this will like only be several $100m
dollars out the door.

I give you the non polluting non envirnoment harming.....running
Bicycle...wonderful for Coppenhagens crouded streets and its Superway
bike roads.

Rumor is they are training Joe Biden to ride one for his enterance into the DNC tonight.....only they have not got the point were they take the training wheels off.

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Old Bill stretched the truth and gave us a bit of yarn last night....

A fact check of his address.



Look noone knows it all. Noone can cover it all. It is just to big to handle 100% honestly sometimes. So I am not jumping on Bill for the
yarn. REPublicans do it as well.

But President Obama better have his fact checked before he put it on the teleprompter!!! And VP Biden.....well we come to expect him to shear the wool, make the yarn and weave a pair soxes with his.

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What do you have when you lay the $1.6t ACA on top of a health care industry that wastes......$750b a year in fraud, waste, mis daigonist,
and unneeded care?

Massive corruption and mis use of the American health care system is coming in 2014.

A Sstudy out by the respected Institute of Health by 18 experts in the field.....says 30 cents of every health care dollar is wasted. When you add 1.6t....that is only going to add $530b more per year in waste and fraud. After 2014, the United States will be wasting over 1t dollars a year in medical fraud and other waste.



All thanks to the DEMs and President Obama that brought us the ACA tax.

Our President Obama has been at the helm while this massive waste was going on for the last four years. I am sure some happened in the previous terms of GWB......but not $750b a year worth. President Obama cannot blame GWB for this. This report is on his watch. His White house has never really reported the massive waste and fraud to the American people.

The $750b is the more than the $716b that the DEM cut from medicare for
the ACA. And they want us to think that they are ready to handle the
$1.6t for ACA! The waste in our health care system is more than our entire DoD budget!

Fraudlent medical claims have to take a great percentage of the $750b.
Scamming experts using multiple identities slip in the system...often from south of the border....to file claims. Dishonest doctors will then overbill and file the claim. Everyone is happy except the American taxpayer that is stuck with the bill.

With the kind of massive waste, it is surprising that the medical health care system has survived this long. Yet for President Obama reform of the system, was never his real goal. His real goal was to expand the system for 'all Americans' with the ACA.

Ah yes, we will get out free health care...even if it means we destroy the country in doing so!

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So you are in Charlotte, Dude? Easy on the BBQ, Wing and Beer.......))

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I don't think that we should elect President Obama for another term....
he going to be using all of the next four years in individual apology calls to the 45,000 people that could not see his address at the
stadium tonight.

He does not have time to President. Assuming he does 10 6 minute phone an hour.....and spends 8 hour a day doing them.....it will take him....9375 days to call all 45,000 with a apology.

With only 9000 working days in the next term....he will have committed the entire term to apology calls for the mess up in Charlotte.

rolling on the floor laughing

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LOL Liars liars liars pant fires....

The DNC has three speakers coming up that were suppose to have worked for Bain companies that were fired. Each has a tear jerking story to share.ONLY..............one did not work for a Bain controlled fire.



Don't they vet these guys? Really? It is not that hard to vet a person's background.....you can do it online even or with a PI.

Anyways.....like I was about to say.....Ryan was born in the Canadian outback to Canadian Eskimos and his Wisconsin parents adopted him and never filed the US paperwork. And Romney was born on Carribean Island
to Jamaican housekeeper and Jamican steel drum player that were testing new type dNA medication.....excuse me for a moment, there is a knock my door....David Axlerod, so nice to see you. My that is a big check you have just written.....

rolling on the floor laughing

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Bob Woodward has a new book out on Washington politics......The Price of Politics.

This one is on the deal making between Obama and Boehner on the debt crisis. Why it went to near critical and melt down levels.

Woodward has our mild and meek President spitting out hot coals, when Boehner did not reply to his phones calls. Pretty sure this is after the White House slammed the door on Boehner during the economic summit.
I have the check the dates on these to know who did what to who first. They are all running together right now. But you get the idea.

Ah well when we elect mature and responsible people to Washington, we will get something new and different from Washington.

Did I tell you that Mitt Romney was a grandfather.....))....you know mature and responsible like.

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If you look at the contested swing states electroral votes....Florida is the biggest with 26 votes. Who wins Florida like wins the election.

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