RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

Spill over violence from the Cartel wars south of the border came to Phoenix, AZ yesterday.

A SUV was to be pull over for a minor traffic violation, when it speed away and went off road south of Phoenix. Later the local enforced found it off road tracks and followed them to a burned out vehicle.

Inside they found 5 bodies burned beyond recognition.

Law enforcement is saying that it was likely drug related.

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Earlier in the week in a payback murder kidnapping. A 4 year hispanic
girl was taken and then murder, when her parent did not pay for the drugs that they had been bringing up from south of the bonder.

Locals in the Phoenix suburbs are so afraid to discuss the murder/kidnapping because of the cartels operations in the communities, that it is difficult for police to get leads to
the person that did the crime.

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Word on the Phoenix streets is that the cartels are keeping a low profile as they build up strength to engage US law enforcement.
With the border being still open for hispanic to come north to vote in
2012, Cartel don't wish to scare them back south of the border.
Rather the south of the border cartel violence is to scare them north for the 2012.

But once the 2012 is over, American law enforcement can expect the long anticipated cartel turf wars to begin in the southwest US cities for real.

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So how did this arrangement occur? Fast and Furious. With the US Federal Government providing the cartel with weapons.....the cartel were obligated to the Obama administration to keep things cool in the US for a time. The Obama administration provided 2000 weapons to the cartels in Fast and Furious.....if the value of a average gun in $400....that is $80,000 in weapons given to the Cartels.

For $80,000, the cartels will make such a arrangement. But the cartels also know that with the FED government involved in such a sceeme, that they basically have a free hand in how to play it out. Imagine a cartel leader showing up at the Congressional hearing on Fast and Furious to give testimony on the FED program. Yes, you can see how deeply the administration got with the various cartels on Fast and Furious.

Now you know why that still over 80% of the Fast and Furious documents are still held by the "transperent Obama administration" from Congressional review.

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RE: Close down the UN.

Syria has a defense pact with Iran. So attack Syria, attack Iran.

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

We did. Likely 70+% of SEAL Team 6 is or was....since it is now mostly demised....was REP. In 2008 election...the military voter 54% to 46% for McCain. From my mil experience, the more elite the American unit was....the more it was REP in its politics.

But you don't get it. Yesterday, I had a 40 minute discussion with a Black Vet....he was in the Army with a artillery MOS. So we had common history to discuss. He is very DEM and very liberal in his thinking. When I said I had dozen letters on my desk from President Obama, it threw him for a loop.

The one thing we both agreed on. American blacks, whites, hispanics, and asians military....all bleed red. We share a common bond to defend the country and each OTHER after taking the oath.

We may politely disagree how to do it. Even disagree on the missions to do it. But when we get a order to do it....like SEAL Team 6 got from President Obama on the bin Laden raid....we do it, politics aside.

RE: Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria

Guess you are not aware of the concept of ali babba.....

let me explain it.

In Iraq, after the US occupied it.....each house was allowed one gun for every adult man.....this to protect the house from 'ali babba'(bandits and thieves).

What you have going on in Syria....is Assad's Syrian Army coming into these mostly Sunni urban areas.....and attempting to do house searches taking all the weapons. Leaving them totally defenseless to ali babba (bandits and thieves)....and also the Assad killing teams.

So yes, these guys carrying and pack weapons.

Your problem is you equate peace with a weapon less society. You see Assad as being the rightful power of the country....when he represents only the Alawite and Shia minorities. Syria is 70% Sunni. So want you want is a minority leader....with blood on his hands....to rule a majority. These Syrian Freedom Army are packin weapons to protect their families and friends. The recent atrocities should tell you that.

Just like one Sadam Hussien was doing in Iraq, earlier. We all know how well worked.

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

Just a little levity on a long day in Florida, Dude......grin

RE: Why Not fully back Kofi Annan and give peace a chance in Syria

The Syrian Freedom Army is now asking to be 'released' from the earlier ceasefire agreement negotiated by Annan. This after the two atrocities committed by the Assad army.

Seems to me that ....that with the atrocities......that peace is a very distant concept in this civil war.

Unless the UN Peace Keepers can bring those responsible for the atrocities to justice, something has about much chance as winning the
fotbol pool on Derby to pull a undefeated and unscored on season.....
there is no reason for the Syrian Freedom Army to remain even in a ceasefire.

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

Just a follow up to the titanium post.

The US has 4 titanium mines and about 10 titanium processing plants that are functioning. China owns about 80% of the titanium market. If need be.....we can buy the metal from the Chinese.

But those mines should be able to provide the needed titanium for 15-25 ships year construction program.

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A CNN Presidential poll.

Has President Obama in the lead 49 to 46.

But

The month prior CNN poll had him in a 9 point lead. In one month Romney close 6 points. Please talk about gay rights some more Mr. President.

Also......the CNN poll has Romney ahead in the IND voter ....51 to
39. In this blogger opinion, IND will decide the election. Go Romney IND....be smart.

In the handling of the economy is a dead heat....45 to 45.

The error on the poll is plus or minus 3 points. It was a phone survey of 1095 voters.

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

Hi Ray! Still on the CIA payroll?
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RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

Bill Bob....gives multiple thumb ups....thumbs up thumbs up thumbs up to recent two movies on the silver screen.

First is "Red Tails".....the sequel on the WWII Tuskgee Airman movie of earlier. If you are a WWII buff.....take it in. Alot of computer reenactments ....but well done even if it came from the harddrive.

"We fight!, We fight!, We Fight!"

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Second movie is "Act of Valor"...This flick has real US Navy Seals in it. DoD and the White House permitted them to play hollywood Navy Seal characters in a SEAL movie. ))

From trailers and interviews Billy Bob has seen. The SEALs shocked the hollywood producers....that were military novices....that such MIL stuff could be done. After seeing them in action, the producers wanted to do the entire movie with only SEALs and not hollywood actors and stunt men.

So much for Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt playing in the next SEAL movie. We demand the real thing.....SEALs only in SEAL movies!

Talk about getting job security. The SEALs milked it for everything they could. Much better being filmed, than shot at. But a great movie.
If you wish to see the SEALs in action...take in the movie. Most of the time, the bad guys don't get a chance to see them in action even. It is just all over with.))

But the bad thing to come from this movie. More White House leaks on SEAL Team 6. Seems the producers had friends in high places and the friends in high places like to talk about the bin Laden raid and SEAL Team 6. Oh well only 6 month before these amatuers are gone.

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

May unemployment came out. Only 69,000 jobs were made in May. Unemployment rose to 8.2%

Both stock markets fell. First time since the 1st of the year,
that they fell into negatives.

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President Obama announced cyber attacks on Iran. In operation Olympic
Games....he said the US set Iranian nuclear program back 2 years.
Sect. Penetta said that this is the direction of modern warfare.
Also of Iran's 5000 enriching centrifuges, 1000 were shut down in the
cyber attack.


But only last week, a unnamed NSA official said Iran has enough HEU for 5 nucs.

Iran after the Baghdad nuc meeting....said it was not coming back to the table.

A very bad move Iran. We have been waiting for this. And prepping for it.

We intend to set your nuc program back further than 2 years......)))
Did they have nuclear materials in the stone age?...)))

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The book "Amateur"... a very critical geo political work on the Obama administration....is now no 1 on the New York Book list.

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Mitt Romney.....wants to rebuild the Obama depleted Navy....back to 500 capitol ships. Your truly just gave him a consulting report on titanium hulled military vessel. They are 40% lighter than steel vessels and will never rust in the marine environment.

With our recent innovative break thru welding titanium.....even President Obama found money in the tight DoD budget to contract the world's first all titanium military capitol vessel. Should be sailing next year in a ocean near you. AS they likely will use this first as a demonstrator to foreign navies.

In the next 25 years, expect the US Navy to be 50% steel and 50% titanium.

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But it not just that. With the welding tech...we can also make titanium battle tanks, personnel carriers, rockets, missiles, Humvees,
...just about any that is made of steel today.

Look for a US military soon to be fielding titanium vehicles on the battle field. So much for IEDs.....Titanium is also 2 time the hardness of carbon steel

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Dang....don't you just love innovation. It was a small tech college in Lousiana that had the breakthru in welding titanium. No big and expensive high techie Cal Poly or MIT here.

College also work closely with the offshore drilling industry......guess who will have titanium offshore drill rigs.
I bet PB might like to redo Deep Water Horizon in titanium.....))

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I was wrong. It was was FED prosecutors that blotched the John Edwards trial. I thought it was state proscutors.

Jurors of the Edwards trial....say there is real ambugitity in campaign donations.

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The Taliban militants...say if they get a hold of Dr. Alfridi.....that Dr that helped to dNA ID bin Laden....he is a "dead man". Dr. Alfridi troubles began when then CIA director Penetta confirmed he was the Dr working with the CIA. Nice job Lou....next time remember....'lose lips sink ships'. Just keep em shut. With any luck, Lou only has a few months left in government.

RE: Re the current crisis in Syria and the recent massacre of women and children.

So you prefer a milt toast thread? With everyone nodding to the OP?

Yes, I see these exactly as debate threads. Because to say they are not. Means you agree with the OP from the beginning and there is little reason to post.

Good debate is about a taking a passionate position and defending it.
I totally agree that when the post turn to personal attacks, then it has gone to far. That happens way to much here. Sadly, I have also have also done some.

I try to reread all the post I place here. Seeking to see if a personal attack has been made. When I see one, I delete or rewrite it.

But we discuss heated issues here. Ones with long histories and hardened positions. Were only occassionaly a blast of dynamite gets any movement or agreement. We discuss the day's horrors here. The world seems to be only to full of this. Giving release to those have to place it into words.

We learn here. Of how others around the world, that live in a vastly different culture or society think about a issue or situation. Sometimes learning is painful to our preconceptions.

When it gets bitter here. I keep a bag of chocolate on the desk and take a bite to sweeten things up. I go thru a bag about every day. My dental bill has risen dramatically since posting at CS.))

But I for one, would not want not want to change the passion of debate that we have here. Freedom of expression means a messy floor of views and opinions. We just need to be careful about which ones we trip on and stumble into......and we need to be careful about the personal attacks. They are out of bounds in my opinion.

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

New information on the torturing of GITMO detainees has come to light.

Was it bamboo under the finger nails?................no

Was it unneeded dental work?.........................no

Was it sleep depreviation using tongue depressors?...no

Was it malnutrition and starvation?..................no

Was it decadant women coming to the cells to tempt the
Islamic detainees?...................................no

Was what was this insidious torture of GWB on the GITMO detainees?

Making them listen to hours and hours of Sesame Street music. By now all the released GITMO detainees know the Big Bird song by heart and tell you the names of all the Sesame Street characters. Those released GITMO detainees that that gone back into the fight....have rejected
the Sesame Street reeducation program of the Bush administration.

We now know why SMK pleaded guilty and why someone gave up the names of bin Laden's courriers...that ultimately led to his death by SEAL
Team 6. It was that last Sesame Street Song.......that kept humming in their ears...and that they had to hum too.....was the sign that they were ready to break!

Then the American torturer placed the GITMO captive into a holding cell with a stuffed lifesize Big Bird that had a hidden tape recorder in it. And the detainee gave up the goods!


laugh rolling on the floor laughing

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

Hey Dude.....remember all those High Speed Rail proposals that Obama came up with?

Well seem that the administration did not do a good job on costing them out.

The California high speed rail was to be 6b project.....today with cost overruns.....is a 18b project. If that hold true for Florida high speed rail it will go from 8b to 24b.

That is what happens when you get a community organizer in the office of the Presidency. A few billion here and a few billion there get lost in the community shuffle.laugh

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

Tell that to his deceased wife that he treated like dirt. Liberals been treating women like dirt for years. Edwards dumps on his wife. lies to her over the love child he fathers, while she is dying of Cancer....all in attempt to save a fading Presidential nomination.

But it might be interesting to get the political affiliation of the States prosecutor that made the states case. Many in the media are saying the prosecutors blew it. They had several witness change testimony in mid stream. Which means some one might have gotten to their witnesses or the proscutors failed to get their story straight in the disclosure phase.

But hey....if you think Edwards is better than all the REP....I will let the statement stand here.....for all to see.

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

John Edward just got off on his criminal of campaign fund corruption charges. The jury was deadlocked on two of the charge. Mistrial on 3 of the charges and found him innocent on one charge.

Edwards say he is going to focus on being a good dad....and God still has a plan for him.

These were State of NC charges and not FED charges. So AG Holder and President Obama had no involvement in them.

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

Recently poll out of the 81 Living American Medal of Honor (MOH) recieptants.

50 support Mitt Romney. While 31 support President Obama.

These include MOH winners from WWII, Korea, Vet Nam, Iraq and Afghanistan.

RE: Obama or Romney? That is the Question!

Hey Dude.....did you hear about the Canadian OWS/Anarachist that is sending dismembered body parts to Canada's Conservative Party Headquarters? So far one severed foot has shown up. But they found a hand in the mail and male torso in the trash in Montreal. Canada and Upper US have a all points out for this guy now.

Will post more......if you want me too.....but pretty gruesome stuff....I just hate to see you not staying in touch with yourAmerican OWS and Anarchist movement/friends. I consider it my civic duty to keep you informed and involved.

Also did you hear about the Seattle man that was 'disgruntled' and shot the 4 in a coffee cafe and a woman in car theft. Then he committed suicide. He sounds like a OWS member to me. I will check more into that for you as it develops. His father says his son was 'disgruntled'.

Would most of the OWS being protesting because they were 'disgruntled'? Yes? I wonder?

And let me bring you up on the Florida face eating. Seem it was a pair of homeless gays. Both had their pants off. One was on some strong illegal drugs....they did used strong illegal drugs in the OWS camps yes? Anyways....the one that did the face eating had been kicked out his house by his wife back in 2008. So he has been living on the streets like the OWS does. Camping out. He and the victim I think had a thing going on. Then something snapped in this guy, big time.

Anyways....for 18 minutes this guy face eat the other man. It was very brutal and very sickening. But hey you know.....the gay lifestyle.....mixed up with strong illegal drugs.....by the way...the victim is still in critical condition here.

I know we should give gay and lesbian the same rights to adopt children and have marriage rights as hetros. But when some of them...do a 18 minute face eating of human being ....of a gay partner it seems.....Children Service should take a real close look at the relationship they are placing a child into. You have to agree with that? Yes?

The states still should have the right to approve adoptions, unless you want to give that to the White House to determine as well.....but of course you do. That one government that decides everything for the country. How can I forget.

Would you consider any of this.....to be Anarchist motivated? Single person attacks on society....like the German that was trying to burn down Hollywood? Just curious here......

RE: Re the current crisis in Syria and the recent massacre of women and children.

But you can always request to change the mandate......get a bigger clue.

RE: Re the current crisis in Syria and the recent massacre of women and children.

Let me provide a little more thought....on the Syrian issue.

Why is this Syrian violence not spilling over into Iraq?

See one of US programs in Iraq....was to built a 260 miles long land obstacle along the Syrian/Iraq border. It cost us $268m, but was well worth the investment and kept people alive. This to keep those 1000s of Lebanon and Syrian fighters from entering Iraq. Those Lebanonese that the Irish and French peace keeper were to contain and keep in the country. WE just figured another way to do it.

Our land obstacling program in western Iraq was so effective, that it triggered off the Anabar awakening.

But since land obstacling is so easy to do. I have always wondered
why the French and Irish in Lebanon did not land obstacle the Syria/Lebanon border. Specially since the EU gave Iran and the Revolutionary Guard $200Euro to land obstacle the Iran/Afghanistan border. Not that it works that well, since the Revolutionary Guard did the design work. And faked the heck out of it. But that is another story to share in the future.

But.......why did the French and the Irish not land obstacle the Syria and Lebanon border? The border were 30,000+ rocket and missiles crossed to arm Hezbollah to launch at little Israel? I have my idea to this. But please correct me if I am wrong.

See if the Irish and French placed a fence on the border of Syria and
Lebanon.....it would approved of the fences and walls that Israel was placing up along the Syrian border and Palestine cities. Good Lord, you got have someone in the Middle East to accuse of being land grabbing bullies. So if you place a fence up to stop those Syrian and Iranian rockets from reaching Hesbollah, you cannot accuse Isreal of land grabbing. And we know how you like to accuse Israel of such bullying.

But since you did not place that fence and border obstacle up.....in other words....did not do peace keeping 101.....Syrian violence is spilling over into Lebanon and now the Irish and French peace keepers are getting 'bad karma' from being slackers to their mandated mission.....of being peace keepers.

That is just some of the geo political of region, my Irish friend. Had you done your home work and realize that stopping the flow of Syrian and Iranian rockets to Hezbollah is peace keeping...just as contianing the 1000s of foriegn fighter that came into Iraq was....and just required a silly fence be made along the border.....your peace keepers would not be in a heated conflict area today. They would much safer today...behind a border fence.

But do continue on......with all US combat forces out of Iraq...soon the locals will be seeking new western targets for their IEDs and sniping....just who do you think that is going to be? I have my idea, but I am sure you don't want to read it.

RE: Re the current crisis in Syria and the recent massacre of women and children.

And Boban you believe everything that you read in Wikileak?

RE: Re the current crisis in Syria and the recent massacre of women and children.

See here is how most the US military command perceives Syria.

Syria has a signed mutual defense treaty with Iran. Meaning? Meaning Assad and Khatenie are pretty close. So our thinking is.....because Sunni are dying in Syria. And we all know that Iran is Shia....and you have this big Sunni/Shia divide.

That Syria is just a diversion to move the world focus away from Iran and its nuclear programs.

Do you wish that repeated? If not. Then please read it again then.

So since to us....the major security threat is Iran with its nuc programs. We have very little interest to what happens in Syria. Its nuc program were bombed out by Isreal years ago. So we think like you, that nuclear explosion in cities are pretty horrible as well.

But there is another reason.

Back in 2002-5, nightly 1000s of Syrian and Lebanon Jhadist slipped across the border into Iraq. To become the foreign fighters, we faced for long time. Did Assad try to stop them? Did Hezbollah try to stop them? The answer there is no. Did the French or Irish Peace Keeper in Lebanon try to stop them? No.

Karma in coming to Syria and Lebanon, boys. This Karma is a nasty one.

Already this has spilled over into Lebanon were the Irish and French peace keeping forces are. And is that why the CS Irish are up in arms? Their view of the middle east is crashing around them today. As Americans are not involved in this fight at all. But all their buddies in the middle east are doing target practice on each other.

With the Russians are flocking to Syria. France and Ireland both see losing regional power in Syria and Lebanon. That is why our Irish friends here does not care about the Russian weapons in Syria. They cannot stop them from coming in. But those Russian weapons start killing Irish Peace keepers, he will care big time.

And the UN.....boy oh boy....the UN...what can I say here.

The UN is sending its inspectors around Syria in white Hondas SUVs....with 1/8 of inch of steel between them and any IEDs.....that either Syrian Army or the fustrated Syrian rebells will soon be placing on the roads.

So if you all don't mind. Good Uncle Sam will stay out Syria. While a US Senator....not McCain...just asked for no fly zones and cruise missile strikes on Assad. He is alone voice here in the US. Most here are not interested.

The Irish and French can go into Syria and peace keep all they want to. Join the UN fellows....they will give you blue kevlar helmet and some body armor blue that makes you stand out at night like a hoot owl in chicken coop. Run you around in tin metal Honda SUVs to be subjects for alJezzera next IED video special.

RE: Re the current crisis in Syria and the recent massacre of women and children.

You too Boban. While posts are general very interesting. You cannot stay to any topic other than the US for any period of time.

Did the grades you get in 5th grade back in the 1960 or 1970.....have anything to do with your life today? But stuff the US did back in the 1980s.....is causing Syrians to die today? Get the drift? History is gone and today is here. Live with it.

You all need all need to do a serious disconnect. Unplug for a while.
The USA did not cause all the world's problems because we dropped some nucs on Japan, took down Sadam Hussien, or about to a major tap dance on Iran.

Syria's problem are Syria caused.

RE: Re the current crisis in Syria and the recent massacre of women and children.

Well here we go tangent after tangent of anti American blah blah.....when the thread is about Syria and Assad. You cannot keep to a single subject other than the good USA for 10 minutes time.

You are stuck on kicking the USA, it drools off of you.

RE: Re the current crisis in Syria and the recent massacre of women and children.

Let see who is arming the Syrian army then.

Russia....shortly after the conflicted started.....sold Assad 26 Skois Su-25s ground attack aircraft. In fact, Russia supplies most of the Syrian army with weapons, munitions, ammo, and communications system.

We know that when the Russia troops came into Syria by ship, Russian cargo vessels came with them. Carrying what do you think? Sure. Russian arms and munitions for Assad army.

Russia does not care how long this 'civil war' goes on. It veto a UN resolution to remove Assad to stop it. Why is that? Russian arm manufactures and dealers are getting rich right now.

The US puts Mr. Death away....a former Russian Air Force Officer turned rogue arms dealer, Blout away. Russia is demanding his release and a apology for his arrest and imprisonment.

Anyone in the world slap the US and Thialand on the back for that and say....great job! You are keeping people from being killed by Russian weapons. If they did, it was so softly done....few heard it here.


But everyone in the world remembers that 80 years ago....the US dropped the only two nuc denotated in wartime in the history of the world. By the way.....ASSAD had his hidden reactor making HEU materials until the Israeli took the top of it off. I pat the Israeli on the back for that piece of military work. It was some fine work.

Honest, we try to use our military to either stop conflict and war today or to minimize its effects and dangers. I was soldier for 6 years and a White house appointee to our Department of Defense for 22 years. So I know.

I can tell of 5 time in my career....we handled WMD cases that I was involved in. Three times were we stopped a war from happening or extending into a broader conflict.

So a little more honesty. We are getting very good at it. Because we are getting allot of practice at it.

Now do you wish to talk about Iran and its HEU for 5 nuclear bombs?

Because we are getting real close to a military solution here. As it just stepped away from the Nuc talks.

I just wrote up a contingency military operation concept for Iran today. I am just putting one more into a very big hopper of military ideas for Iran. That hopper is stuffed, by the way. So not sure I can get this in. But it is so sweet.......and likely not a civilian casualty to it. I could not resist.

Lastly, not one of those military concepts for Iran, includes nuclear weapons that I am aware of. But hey....maybe we can dig up the pieces of Little Boy for another go around. Little Boy was one of the nuc used on Japan

RE: Re the current crisis in Syria and the recent massacre of women and children.

I am sure the Irish Army is ready to jump into Syria for a little face to face with the Russians and some peacekeeping between Assad on one side and the Syrian rebells on the other side.

I have no doubt that the Irish Army can handle the situation in a totally professional and honorable manner. My tip hat is off to the
Irish Army that follows the will of the Irish that speak here for a military intervention in Syria.

RE: November 2012 is near America! Obama Rocks, and even GOP knows this, and do not know what to do a bo

I guess you did not hear about the recent Anarchist attack in Warren MI.

A pregnant woman was abducted.....then shot....and then burned alive. by a unidentified assailant. I can say 'Anarchist'.....because he told the woman, it was because she was pregnant. We all know the ows/anarchist position on the world's population growth.

I do admit burning one pregnant woman alive at a time is rather a slow way to do control the population. The Chinese do it so much better with one child per family laws, forced abortions and sterlization programs.

RE: November 2012 is near America! Obama Rocks, and even GOP knows this, and do not know what to do a bo

Guess you did not hear about the naked OWS Anarchist down here in Florida face eating a man. Literally eating his face off. Happened down in Miami. They had to kill the anarchist to get him off the man who is now in intensive care. Doing things like that will lose you support and votes.......I assure you.....

more on this later......it should definitely fit well into A Dude Obama thread.

But.......I have a new interesting theory on Fast and Furious. And the 600 miles of open border that Obama did not close. Want to hear it?

OK just for you......but don't tell anyone else.))

We know that of the 2016 guns sent to Mexico...less than 10 had a tracking device in them. So the Administration story that this was to track guns in cartels....is a bogus cover story.

We know that 85% of the Fast and Furious documents have not be released to Congress.....so clearly something else is being covered up.

But what?

Try this. In 2008 with the poor US economy, the influx of illegal aliens slowed to a trickle. Now to the Obama 2012 campaign, with ACORN registration and with photo less IDs....illegal aliens are votes.

So to move illegal aliens across the border....Obama send the Cartel guns....to cause chaos in the border Mexican cities....were the cartel are fighting over turf and US entry.

What are peace loving Mexicans going to do....when your family is surrounded by cartel violence? Skip across the border to safety. The border that Obama left open for them.

In my opinion, Fast and Furious is a relocation program of illegal aliens to bring them into the US. In those 85% of the undisclosed documents, I bet they talked of exactly that. Hence they cannot release them to Congress....before a election.

I just bet that those 2016 guns were released into the Mexican border towns that did not have the fence up......might be interesting to find out just were the guns were released....yes?

RE: November 2012 is near America! Obama Rocks, and even GOP knows this, and do not know what to do a bo

Right now, I would say Assad and the Russians don't know the value of life. 10,000 Syrians have been killed. But while this happened...what did Obama do? Netanyhu ain't killing anybody right now. Other than restructuring his government.

Other than some little rhetoric. He sent the US Ambassador to Homs. Sec't of State Clinton said Assad has to go. They put together 'friends for Syria'....likely to help bury the dead.

Other than that Obama has let the UN handle the entire mess. That is not being a leader or showing American leadership in the world.

The Russians move in troops into Syria. Does Obama condemn it? No big deal to him.

Part of is this. He has cut the US military so much....it doesnot have the manpower or resources to help in Syria. If he involves the US military here....he cannot cut the DoD budget any more. So make his base happy....Syrians die.

The other part of it is this. It is Sunni that are dieing in Syria. Obama has flipped on the Sunni to get close to the Shia. To help keep
Iran at the nuc table. How well is that working out? Iran just said the IEAI cannot inspect the military sites for nucs or materials.

All the Sunni countries (Arab League) have endorsed a plan to oust Assad. Has Obama endorsed the plan? If he has, it is quietest endorsement I have heard. Even Kobie Annan has spoken more on the plan than Obama has. Kobie Annan came out with a plan. Anyone hear Obama support even that?

Could we do more in Syria? You can bet your bippie, we could. But we don't have the leadership to do more.

RE: November 2012 is near America! Obama Rocks, and even GOP knows this, and do not know what to do a bo

Since it is Memorial Day....

In 2008, Veteran votes for McCain 54% to 46%.
A Recent Poll, Veterans are for Romney 64% to 38%.

500,000 Veterans from the Iraq and Afghanistan are pressing for benefits.

1,000,000 Veteran have a claim with VA that are over 8 months in time.

President Obama has reduced the US Navy to a 300 ship fleet.

President Obama has reduced the size of both the Army and Marine Corp.
by some 100,000.

President Obama military strategy is prepared to fight only one war.

Sect. Gates cut 310b from the four years of DoD spending under the Obama administration.

Sect. Penetta has been ordered to cut 495b from the next decade of planned DoD spending. This after he is cut another 60b from this last year of DoD spending.

Who gains from the defense cuts and Obama defense strategies?

-Obama has more money for his social welfare programs.
-North Korea and Iran can each instigate a war, one will not have a US major military presence.
-China and Russia, both that have force modernizing programs, will be unchallenged by the country that was once the armory of democracy.

Romney today said he will return the United States to having the 'world's strongest military'. He that the choice is either to become like Europe were defense cut after defense cut has gone to social programs. Or to rebuild the military for a two war conflict.

President Obama told us that the way returning Vet Nam vets were treated was wrong. That we should not do the same to the Iraq and Afghanistan returning Veterans.....none of whom with have a Victory parade in Washington.....for their service to country during the
Obama administration.

Some local parades for returning VETs have been planned....but they seem to be cancelled as fast as the idea occurs in the city government.

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