Imagine it is the last year of the Civil War, Lincoln says to his Sect of War Steward, I want you send 500 of my Lincoln Carbines to the Chenneyee, 500 to the Sioux, 500 to the Apache and 500 to the Comanche. Give each tribe a 100,000 rounds for the guns.
Tell them that the Great White Father in Washington wants them to be armed fairly when the settlers are crossing the plains and deserts to the California Gold fields come. So they can have a 'fair' fight with them.
Pretty el studipo yes?
What did President Obama and AG Holder do with Fast and Furious?
Exactly that. 2000 weapons (some assault) to the Drug cartels.
So President Obama has bought and sold his guns as well. He bought 35,000 of the new grenade launcher with the micro chipped round. For immediate use in Afghanistan. Only when they tell the story of the weapon in the media, no one mentions that it was GWB that funded the R and D of the weapon. 6 years prior.
President Obama is in the process of selling 36 F-16 to the Maliki Government of Iraq. This for air space security of Iraq. Really? With 35,000 US support troops stationed in Iraq, a 15,000 Iranian Qud Force transit Iraq headed for Syria. That is great Iraqi border and national security!
Now do you why the average DoD civilian employee donated 25 cents to his campaign? They know that behind the door deals and talks with Iraqi's and Iranian's are being done. Just like the Israeli newspaper said.
They know that those deals and talks are going to weaken the National security of the United States in the region and here at home. So they give as little as they can to the Obama campaign for a re-election. Only $156,000. DoD employees average $56,000 per year. There are 718,000 of them.
One year a ago, the country paid 9b per day in interest on its debt. Today, it pays 10b a day. 25% of the debt interest goes foreign countries; China, Britian, and others.
The nation's debt passed the 16t level today. 5.3t of that is President Obama share.
Let us re-elect President Obama then.....he has been so good at cutting the nations debt by 1/2. That was his campaign promise of 4 years ago. Then in 2008, GWB debt of 10b was 'unAmerican'. But today's 16t debt, is a non issue that will get little attention in Charlotte.
This debt has to be the single biggest issue that drags our economy down. It is what keeps small business to big business from hiring, from risk taking, from growing. They don't want to take on the cost of employees and debt, when the country can be devalued. Costing them millions in increased interest of their obligations.
When you add the cost of the ACA tax to this equation. Come 2014, the DEM have painted us into a corner of continued high employment, low GNP growth, and high taxes. They say they are putting the country back on track, but this is a equation for a over the fiscal cliff moment.
President Obama not going to line item out the ACA. He is not going to take its taxes off the American people or businesses. He is not going revitalize the GNP with massive government spending cuts. Four years from now, if Obama is re-elected the country will be devalued, be in austerity, and have a 20t debt.
If in austerity, were do the American seniors get the funds to replace the 716b cut from their medicare? Not with the 1.2t ACA taking priority in Obama's second term. They lose. If in austeriy, how does small business to large business continue their American dreams? 1000s of businesses in the European austerity countries have closed.
If devalued, the cost of all loans, mortgages, and commercial lending will increase. Our debt owed to foreign countries will increase. Our economy and country will face a greater challenge than the Great Depression of 1932. Be assured there are 92 percentiles greater than 8% unemployment rate of today. In the Great Depression, they hit 22% unemployment. With the focus on intangible spending in the Obama recovery, we can surpass that in the future.
We do it now in 2012 or we will be forced to do it 2016. That is cut the government back being 42% of the GNP. Increase our GNP with the 4% solution. Return prosperity to the country. Or suffer for four more years as Janesville did? So end the Obama machine now!
Ryan just said 'that the Carter years were the good old years compared to the Obama years'......
Back to Janesville, WI if the local people held Ryan accountable for the GM plant not re-opening, and that is a hope of the DEMs.....then in 2010 mid term that hope was fractured as Ryan won. Ryan had 75% of the vote! Even then they were talking about Ryan making a run for VP.
I had a few items wrong in the earlier post on Janesville GM plant post. In Feb 09, Obama WAS President of the United States when he made the statement in Janesville. He taken the oath already. So the locals (small business and families) are waiting for the plant to reopen....making business and life decision regarding that. Do I take the job offer and move the family? Or wait for the plant to open? Do I change my product line away from selling to a auto plant? Or do I hang on to it till the plant reopens?
They had President Obama's word of Feb. 09 to go on.
Then GM gets bailouted out. Surely it had to be reopened. Nope. Then Obama replaces the GM CEO. It has to be reopened now. Nope. Obama puts in a car czar, it has to be reopened. Nope.
That is how a Ryan get a 75% vote. That is how Gov Walker got involved in this as well. And we know how the Walker recall vote went....
When you think about it. Obama has been making economic development promises in leading REP districts and states and then been reneiging on them. Or knowing like in the case of Florida High Speed rail, it was not ready to fund.
Janesville GM Plant, the Florida High Speed Rail, Shovel Ready jobs....each time he made economic chaos in REP district and state. But if Janesville is any indication, the voter has it figured out.
When Obama's says your plant is going to be re-tooled to auto people....it means you are going to be making cars, Dude. The Janesville plant was never reopened. And Obama is the President. It was his job to give the 16b bailout to GM with the condition to meet his said promise at Janesville.
See its really is simple. We have a President that tells the country "stories". Instead of being so "darn honest" that it hurts of he lies.
If Abe Lincoln made the same promise.....and he made similar.....it happened. His word was golden. He once ordered 100,000 Sharps carbines rifles. Just by talking with the firm's salesman after a demonstration. The Springfield armory company got the check. The US Calvary got the rifle in time for Gettysberg.
So a little know military fact is about to be shared. General Custer and his 7th Calvary stopped the Southern Calvary as it rode to cut the Union army in half and meet Pickettes charge on the last day. Custer and the 7th stopped them with Lincoln's carbine. Out manned 5 to 1. Abe Lincoln play a major role to win the Battle of Gettysberg.....because he ordered a rifle and the maker trusted him to pay.
Here is what Custer did with the carbine Lincoln bought.
I know it all looks Greek to you. Trust me it is men living and dieing because one side had fast shootin carbine and other side did not. Military technology.....you better have it or else in war.
Same thing at Janesville. Ryan has long time friends that are counting on the President's word of honor to reopen the plant. They are losing homes.....families are breaking up...all the bad things of unemployment are happening. Ryan just reminded him of the promise during the RNC.
Then it is simple. Who administration was in office during this vast unemployment in America? Who spent 800b on a economic stimulation that increased the unemployment rate bigger? When do we get to the end of the debate? LOL.........
You mean Ryan's hometown GM plant. The plant closed in 2008 under the Bush administration. So what? In 2009, Obama gave GM 16b and they cannot open the plant that remains closed today? Obama visited the closed plant in Feb 2008 and said it was going to reopen ands beopne for 100 years. It did not. Case closed. Ryan did not lie. Obama did.
Here is exactly what Obama said at the Janesville GM plant in Feb 2008.
"I believe if our government is there to support you and to give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition, that this plant will be here for another 100 years."
That is after his election and during the transition. h eknows that he is going to be President. He is going to become the head of that Government that soon give GM 16b. And it sure sounds like a promise to me.
What you don't seem to understand that.....unemployment benefits is not making jobs. It is bad thing to be on unemployment. It is a hard thing to be on unemployment.
Obama took the unemployment rate from 7% to 8.3%. He took the combined unemployment and underemployment rate to 15%. He has 15 of 100 out of work or nuderemployed.
That is not the REP fault. But the fault of the Obama/Biden administration. It is not all Obama's fault. It is shared with his cabinet, his SES, his policy makers and his advisers.
He said if he did not bring the unemployment under 8% it was one term administration. Why is that so hard to understand?
When Romney and Ryan come in....it is a entire new team. 500 new White House staffers. A new Cabinet. 3000-5000 new SES. New Advisors. New ideas. New problem solving. New opportunities. A new direction and a new prosperity for the country.
Read the horror stories of 2008 DEM that supported the President as he led them into slowest economic recovery since the Great Depression.
Such as..."I am 53 and am getting $7.37 per hour. If I want a job, that is what I have to do."
"Right now I live with my family, I am unemployed."
"I have two kids one is 26 and one is High School, both live at home."
So ask the Obama/Biden team 'is the country is better than when they took over in 2008? They know the answer. They've surely read the Carville report.
But the answer coming from the DNC this week...will be "some have it better and some have it worse" ..."it is a confusing time and issue"..'we created 4m jobs' yada yada yada. They ignore the answers of their polling and others that say 70% of the country is worse off today.
They cannot admit the truth like a recent DEM governor did. He said thing were worse. Then got raked over from Washington to reverse his position. Hmmmmm....Clinton's hourly White House phones calls come to mind, here!!
It is the Saul Alvinsky coming out. Say anything to stay in power.
They can brand Romney as a hard hearted business man, killing jobs while at Bain. But the truth is Bain was small potatos and in the 1990s. These two are the Administration of the FEDERAL government from 2008 to 2012 and have had vastly more impact on the countries economy than Romney. Bain was a 60b per year company. The Federal Government is a 1.2t government. You tell me who had a bigger impact on this economy and its non recovery?
I have said it in the past. You have to face the hard facts and make the tough decisions to lead. Which is the very last thing that Obama/Biden want to do or can do.
With organized labor playing a big role in the Administration and in the DEM campaign. One would think the big labor would be unhappy with with a 8.3% unemployment rate. Nope. Big labor is happy. They are stock holders in GM and Crystler under this administration and did not pay a dime for the stock. The American tax payer did. You and I paid for that little bit of share the wealth in 2009.
Now do you understand why big labor is not calling the Obama/Biden Team is the worse thing for American labor since Jimmy Carter. All those labor managers are looking to do now....is to manage their stock holding till a split or merger comes with GM or Cyrstler and then make a killing. It is the American way. The American labor dream.Own the keys to the factory. It is nice one American dream came true in the last three years.
So labor management will be out busting the union members to support the Obama/Biden team. You know the rhetoric....so no quotes are needed.
Obama supporters cannot answer the question 'if we are better off today than in 2008'....they dodge...they weave...they duck....but they cannot answer it straight.
This time it blaming a man that has been out of office for over 8 years, for raising taxes. Yep......even after his ACA was ruled a tax by the Supreme Court, it is going to be Mitt Romney that raises taxes.
DEM are trying to get Romney/Ryan to take a bite of the poison pill that they made with the ACA.
Of course it what Romney is going to do......yada yada yada....more mind reading by the DEMs. Both Romney and Ryan are talking a small across the board tax cut the last I heard. Not one that was going to only the 1%s.
The only way that they got there....was to slice into the massive government made in the last 4 years by Obama and Biden. So how much government has been made the last 4 years?
In 2008 (GWB) the Government was....................34% of the GNP In 2009 )Obama) the Government was....................40% of the GNP In 2010 (Obama) the Government was....................42% of the GNP In 2011 (Obama) the Government was....................n/a In 2012 (Obama) the Government was (projected)........n/a
Please note in the graph....the Clinton's good years....he had a government that was around 25% of the GNP and a GNP that was growing at 3.8% per year. That is the goal of Romney and Ryan.
When you combine the DEM plan to bring the small business tax rate to 35%, end the tax cuts on 1%s and add the ACA tax with government at the 42% government/GNP rate.....it is fiscal disaster waiting to happen. A financial prefect storm of taxes, high spending government and slow GNP. The chance of a Obama government being devalued in 2013, is very good.
How do American feel about the size of government. 7 in 10 say it is to big and to powerful. Here is a poll. They know what the problem is.
Has Obama's withdrawals from Iraq and Afghanistan (the surge was withdrawn) effect the GNP decline? No. It is still a steep decline but not as bad as WWII.
It is 25% off on everything at the Obama/Biden online store. This going into the DNC that begins tonight. One can reach out for various reasons to discount your campaign merchandize before the convention...
One being someone is running short of donations.
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In perhaps one of the stranger pieces of information of the day..... No Easy Day is out selling 50 Shades of Grey on Amazon.Com. Hurrah.....
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President Obama is now pushing pizza with his White House beer. Oh yes, you know it is coming. They have a 12 inch deep dish.....called Biden's Mistake....if comes with everything you don't want. They have 14 incher round thin crust....called the Big Guy......it is a little flackey but you can get with anything on it. Then to top it off....they have the Monster...a 16 Incher....this one is made for the 3AM phone call that you are expecting. Normally comes with only with cheese.
According to the Israeli report, if Israel attacked Iran nuclear facilities, the US would not back the Israeli play. That the US passed this information on to Iran via two European countries.
So if Israel did attack Iran, don't blame the US and don't fire missiles at US installations in the middle east.
If the Israeli have good sources here, I suspect most the 6m Jewish voters will be headed to Romney this year. ---
A effect of Obamacare is beginning to effect baby boomers in rural areas. A shortage of Doctors that takes medicare that is headed to insolvency. Stripped of 716b medicare is the insurance program that no doctor wants to honor.
Well we knew it was coming. But hey what can you say....
--- Here locally the DEM Unions want the small business to pay a 2.5% tax for.......sick leave. If the employee falls sick they want each employing business to have paid into this account for the employee's expenses during the illness/injury.
What is workman's comp for? If injured or sick it pays the employee for the time in bed or injured.
IN most states, Workman Comp is a shared employee and employer program. Each contributing. Now DEM want to tack on a independent 2.5% tax on the program for the employer.
bin Laden had a unloaded Russian pistol and unloaded AK-47 in the room on a shelf.
This again conflicts with the 'official version' that came from the White House. Here bin Laden was making a move to grab a AK-47, as he was shot. If it was unloaded. Not a smart move on bin Laden part. But again by the Navy Chief version, bin Laden was shot at doorway. He was not near the weapons that were on a shelf.
Those movie maker that paid the White House for filming rights of the bin Laden raid , sure got their money worth. They got action, screaming, a dangerous bin Laden, threatening and charging women, weapons...a bin Laden quick as a cat jumping to a shelf that held his weapons.
Oh yes. Movie makers pay the government for 'rights' to such.
But it seems we come to the question. Could bin Laden been taken alive?
Consider a living and breathing bin Laden in US custody. What happened to the global war on terrorism if that happens? Could we see alQeada and alQeada link groups all over the globe laying down their arms and bombs to keep bin Laden alive? WoW What a thought!
Could we get out of Afghanistan sooner? Push the Taliban to talks table with more pressure on them?
And what would we learn about Iran and alQeada, from a living bin Laden? Was a Iran a leading player in 911, the US courts thinks so. Those are just a few related questions and answers a living bin Laden could shed light to.
This is a article written the day after the raid by Newsweek. I quote "Officially, it was a kill or capture mission, since the US does not kill unarmed persons. But it was clear from the beginning that who over was behind those walls, had no intention of surrendering, two officials said."
The CIA, Pentagon and White House....gave the producers of 'official movie version'.....300 pages of it went down that night. One Navy Seal comes along, who was there....writes a book and we find it (or some) was fabricated. Someone was to benefit from 300 or 1 pages of fabrications. The someone was Barack Obama.
The White House now is saying that the GOP is now doing a smear campaign over the leaks and bin Laden raid.
The country and the world just want the truth here. Show us the photos. Release the investigation into the leaks. Tells us why we should believe White House version of events, over a Navy Chief that was there.
Personally...I say the lead man had a ligit shot that night. He did not know what bin Laden had in his hands. As he peaked around a corner of a doorway. They had been warned that bin Laden might have a suicide vest on. Not sure about you, but with that little bit of briefing info on the raid.....bin Laden when I saw him.....would be ......headed to his 72 virgins.
Yes, what if Iran and Russian want US and NATO deployments in Syria? Simple Assad uses WMDs on his people. Sarin, mustard gas and other chemical and biologic weapons, will draw the US/NATO into the country.
France says it is in negotiation with England and the US to respond to a Syrian use of WMDs on the rebells.
This is one of the bad things in telling people around the world about your military deployments and the triggers (motivations) for them. You then literally give them the trigger to bring about a deployment. That is really smart.....yuck yuck yuck. Here thief... take my loaded gun.... point it at me....undo the safety.....now all you have to do is to pull the trigger logic.
Of course the real deal, is for Assad's Syria to use WMDs on it people is such a hideous thing, the non President would have to act anyways. Just like GWB was forced by Sadam Hussien to act after Iraq used WMDs on the Kurds.
But President Obama sees this as being 'transperent'. Being transperent and getting shot at is not wise. Even bin Laden hid behind a wall....or his wives. Take your choice there. But that again is the present thinking in the White House. I don't want us to be transperent to the Russians and China....when both are re arming.
I want them to think that the US is the meanest dog on the planet and with the sharpest teeth. I hardly want to give Putin a trigger that brings about a deployment of Americans in Syria. But Obama's red line in the Syrian sand did just that.
You say Bush I did that to Sadam. Bush placed a line in the Saudi sand after Sadam had invaded Kuwait and massed troops along the Saudi border. A big big difference than a civil war. With the 82nd and 101st rapid deployment forces already in Saudi, what else was Bush I going to do? Blink?
Syria is a totally different matter. With Russian and Iranian forces in the country. With it being a civil war. But canidate Obama knows a good campaign line when he hears one. Drawing the line makes him toughie in the middle eastie. Americans like that.
But Putin/Assad/Amhemenjada have the upper hand now. They know what will bring a US/NATO deployment and tied them into another decade war in the middle east. Because Syria is a decade war just waiting to happen or to have a US/NATO deployment. All Assad has to do is hit the SFA with some WMDs.....and Obama's 7th Calvary comes running to the rescue.
This kind of foreign diplomancy or leaking your military plans. Has to stop. There is far to much on the line in Syria....in America....in Europe........in global security and peace for this kind of non interactions. In Syria, it is the lives of 1000s of Sunni. In America and NATO, it the lives of 1000s of troops. In global security, it a face off between two of the world's nuclear powers over a civil war.
He says his 2014 withdrawal is such a plan. Is it? It may reduce the conflict in Afghanistan. But end the global war on terrorism? No, I don't think so.
Mitt Romney asked President Obama why pull the troops out tomorrow? Would this not end the Afghanistan was as well as Obama's 2014 withdrawal?
If US intelligence sources are correct, there are only several 100 alQeada in Afghanistan. It has been that way for a year now. The Taliban have been in peace talks with the Karsia government. Even a senior arrested Taliban in Pakistan has been involved.
What the US government and President Obama, want to do for two more years in Afghanistan is to nation build. Poring billions into the poorest country on the face of the earth. Into a tribal society that places little value on the wealth of the United State, modern things, or its founding principle of freedom and democracy.
It place a certain value on dead Americans. As we have seen with these insider attacks. Each time one happens, the Taliban or alQeada take the credit and the pot is stirred for more global terrorism.
I am not one to run away from a fight. Not when the country and parties hosted bin Laden that killed 3000 American on 911. But bin Laden's death changes things. alQeada suddenly became one of the weakest Islamic terrorist groups in the world. With the small library of intell gathered during the raid, our intelligence services know alQeada inside and out.
Remaining in Afghanistan make little sense to me today. Job done. Bring em home or redeploy them to other locals. Nor does spending billions in nation building make much sense either. Karsia government takes bags of money from Iran and is going development deal with the Chinese. Let the regional powers develop Afghanistan. Our return on national building the country is going to be small to nothing.
But the Obama administration wants to spend those billions. Billions that can be spend here or else where. Be used to pay down our debt. He wants to continue to place American soldier and marines into harms way in this country. It make little sense. Mitt Romney knows that.
That is why he asked the question at the RNC.
But both Biden and now Obama have demonized him as war maker without a plan for Afghanistan? Why does not the administration answer Mr. Romney's question on Afghanistan? Maybe because then the admin-istration's national building plan of deploying 2 more year and leaving a unknown security force deployment in the country will be seen as the 'non' plan for ending the Afghan war.
Obama is a smart man. He has plenty of DEMs to pick as his VP. But picks one of the slowest cards in the DEM deck as VP?
I think he picked Biden to have some one on the stage that makes him look even smarter. Think of the movie "Dumb and Dumber" for a moment. You cannot really say dumb is dumb, because dumber is there beside him. Dumb looks pretty good in fact.
I think that this is Obama's motivation with Biden pick. He looks really really good when stacked up beside Biden.
Biden has got the worse case of hoof in mouth known to man. It needs major surgery and maybe even amputation. Biden cannot walk down the street without a gaff coming out. Sending him to China is like asking Pee Wee Herman to negotiate your trade imbalance and currency issues. You just know Pee Wee is going to screw it up. You can plan on it. It is the same with Joe Biden.
Remember when Joe is in China? The Chinese removed the reporters from the conference hall and Joe kept on talking! For 10 minutes!! Biden would fit into the 3 Stooges so well. They could do a skit with no one in the room as well! Yuck yuck yuck........
You try to like Joe Biden or you try to ignore Joe Biden. But Joe Biden makes both very hard to do. Joe is the consumate New England politician. Give him a stage and he is there. Heck don't give him a stage and he is there.
Joe Biden is like the relative that comes to your house for a few days stay. Four years later he is still there. When Eastwood did his non President skit at the RNC. He should have carried two chairs out. One on his left for Biden and one on his right for the President. But Clint at 82, that might get confused. I know for me at 62, it would.
For the country, the sad thing is....Biden is only a heart beat away from the Presidency. So I hope nothing happens to the President. In fact, all 308m of us do. That is one way to assure your favorability ratings.
But to end the giggles at Biden's expense for a moment. The country deserves better in the VP office. The world deserves better. The Senate deserves better. Joe has sadly become divisive. He divides rather than unites. Joe has lost his ability to motivate the country. The secret of all great leadership....is it unifies and it motivates.
I was thinking about the differences of FDRs and Obama economic recoveries.
FDR and DEM of the day were revered for getting the country back to prosperity. Even as a conservative, it was a hat off job.
Did you know that FDR used free enterprise and corporations? He did.
Let me take you back to 1932s and bankers are jumping out of 5th story windows and runs on banks were happening. Unemployment is heading to 22% and a true depression is coming. GNP was dropping by 37%.
What does FDR do? Bailout the banks? Poring money into them to stay afloat? Nope. He makes the FDIC. Federal Depositor Insurance Corporation. This to insure the holding of individuals in the banks. TO? To make confidence that their banks were solid.
Then with unemployment hitting 22% and people losing everything to lending banks. What does FDR do? Make 4 million jobs; 58% being low paying and save the auto industry? Nope. He makes the CCC. Civilian Conservation Corp (oration).
The job of the CCC was? To be the employing arm of FDR's recovery program. Unemployed would come to the local CCC offices and register. Go home and wait for the CCC to find them employment. Being registered with the CCC, got you on the welfare roles.
The CCC in turn got contracts from the various FEDERAL agencies to build dams, roads, bridges, re-forest from a massive drought that hit the country earlier. They built stuff. Tangible stuff. The Hoover Dam which produced more electricity for 80 years than all the windmills in the country is an example.
It is tangible contracts that the agencies and CCC do. You can hold a planted tree. Walk on the Hoover dam. Drive the roads and bridges that was made. America prospered.
Now consider Obama 800b TARP II bailout. Most of the 800b went to intangibles. Mortgage wash out and correction of the secondary mortgage market. Insurance companies bailout. Fannie and Freddie bailout. Only when it comes to saving the auto companies, do we really get to a tangible items. And yes there were some airport and road projects.
But education? Unproven innovation? More intangible investment from the TARP II bailout.
FDR used corporation and even made them during the Great Depression recovery. Obama has demonized them. He places rules and regs on the banking industry. Chase just had a multi b insider scandle. FDR regained America confidence in US banking. Obama commends the CEO of Chase after he has a multi billion dollar scandle.
FDR recovery prepped the country for WWII. Indeed this next statement might cause you to think. It might have caused WWII. Let me explain. Japan had invaded China and Mongolia. It needs large quantities of steel. The US was selling steel to Japan during the recovery. But the with the economic recovery happening, FDR stops the steel sales.
He had good employment numbers and found the Japan use of the steel, militaristic and threatening. Japan began to plan the Pearl Harbor strike soon after the steel shipments stopped. It took about a 1 year to plan.
Poring billions into intangibles, I say does little for world security. Iran could care a hoot about our sub prime mortgage market. Iran does care if America is making planes, tanks, ships. As Condi Rice said. "Peace thru strength." But to get to a position of strength, needed is investments in tangible items.
Obama today has 45m drawing benefits. 23.5m that are underemployed or unemployed. In a country of 308 people. Most with better educations that FDRs populace. Yet FDR with a country of 128m with 32m unemployed made a economic recovery that outpaced Obama's and prepped the country for WWII. Also one that cost billions less. FDR's New Deal was a fraction of the present bailout. He only needed 4 yrs from '32 to '36.
Obama is going to ask us for four more yrs to recover at the DNC.
The "fake" official version.....was in the planning and making 2 weeks after the raid. The released timing was selected to give President Obama the biggest bump possible.
REP King led the house investigation into Islam. He knows that that if you release material like this....retribution strikes will be planned against the SEALs....SEALs that the White House gave out identity and names on following the raid.
It stinks.
Military people should boycott and protest the movie. Should do a online petition and should sign walk in front theatres showing it. This to protect the NAVY SEAL and to show the administration official version is fake.
In fact.
I think I know some local military. That will be very happy to do just that.
The producer of the movie were in the White House 2 weeks after the bin Laden raid went down. The White House and the Pentagon gave them 'the official version' of events.
But the Navy Chief is saying.....it did not go down that way.
So the White House and the Pentagon imbellished the events of the night. To make it more dramatic for a hollywood movie and for Obama PR.
No I would not call it assignation. If you follow the NAVY Chief version, bin Laden peaked his head around a door way and the lead SEAL of the stack shot him.
bin Laden was using the wall as a screen and shield. The lead SEAL cannot see his hands. He might of had a weapon in them. So he shoots in self defense. Old story....better safe than sorry. Shoot first and ask question latter, is another. This shooting was close. Maybe 10 feet in distance.
Both rounds found their mark so a real tight shot group on bin Laden head. The photos would show that.
They would also show that the official version being shot in the chest and shot as he was falling is very improbable. It is very hard to keep a tight shot group on a falling man. JMO.....
So that is it. Liberal in Europe blame GWB for their economic problems. They don't blame their own government or their high taxes or their sluggish GNPs. But good old GWB caused all your economic problems as well.
LOL....GWB did not cause your economic problems. Plain and simple. You did. With "free healthcare" and other free benefits. You messed up your economies. You made government to large a sector, for most European countries the Government is about 35% right?
Listen to Ryan's Bush Foundation video again if you want the out to your austerity problems. Government has to get down to about 20% of the economic GNP pie. So don't blame Bush. You'll made those decisions.
Ever hold a H&K416? It takes at least one hand. Most of the time two. But we have a SEAL in the official version, that is shooting one of bin Laden wives that was threatening a charge and then pulling them both to the side. Clearing them for a shot by a following SEAL on bin Laden.
All very Hollywood and very good for a movie trailer/sceen. A lot of action there. Screaming. Movement. SEALs with guns in action. But fake as fake gets. Trying to control a H&K416 while you pushing two women, one wounded aside. You need more than two hands to do it. Else one of those two screaming and wounded women can grab it and use it on you.
If I am so close to bin Laden that I am pushing his shielding wives aside. Why not just take bin Laden down? In fact my SEAL training is saying do exactly that. You always control the greatest threat first. The butt end of a H&K416 makes a heck of a weapon. One sharp thrust to bin Laden jaw with it. He is down. He is also living and coming to Washington to talk and be tried.
The Navy Chiefs photos will dispute the 'official version' I suggest. And the 'official version' was written for a hollywood movie script, I suggest.
What is clear here. The white house and President used the bin Laden raid in manner to enhance President Obama politically. They gave a altered version that was for mass public dissemination and consumption. One that today, is highly suspect.
We have never seen or had media talk with the 16 captured at the bin Laden compound that night. Nor have the wive sof bin Laden ever givn thier version. They ar enow serving time in a Pakistani prison.
The liberal media eat the 'official version' of bin Laden's death up.
Photos of the 911 attack, pic of the 3000, cries of justice done.
Today with the Navy Chief's differing version emerging. Can anyone trust the liberal media when it comes to promoting President Obama? They would not only make a fake movie of the events for him. They would not seek the truth of the night's events. Call for bin Laden's photos. Or demand that the investigation report of the Navy Seal 6 Team shot down be made public.
Good and honorable Americans, that have been forgotten for a President that discredits their greatest mission for political gain.
Why did we not get photos of the deceased bin Laden?
We can speculate on this for hours. All have a right to a view and opinion. But I am going to offer a new reason.
The shot group on bin Laden's body contradicts the 'official version' given to us by the Obama administration.
Going back to the retired Navy Chief's description of the hall shooting. He was number two in a three man stack working down a dark hallway in the 3rd floor bin Laden main house. When he 'heard' two pops fired by the number one man in the stack. The man in front.
Over the mic he heard...."I saw a head come from the doorway". The lead man of the stack confirming he had shot.
They went to the doorway to find bin Laden dieing (still twitching) in a pool of blood in the bedroom near the door. The Navy Chief took photos and dNA samples were taken.
They had fired two rounds at bin Laden from the stairway both missing that forced him back into the bedroom. Then...this ...
"Inside the bedroom two of bin Laden's wives stood in front of him, shielding him. One of them, 'Amal Ahmed Abdul Fatah' screamed at them in in Arabic and motioned that she was about to charge. One SEAL shot her in the leg and grabbed them both and shoved them away. A second SEAL entered the room and shot bin Laden in the chest and then in the head with his H & K 416 with Navy 866 5.56 mm rounds. The SEAL radio "For God and Country, we got him, Geronimo, Geronimo, Geronimo." and then "Geronimo EKIA (enemy killed in action). Then in the White House Situation Room, President Obama said, "We got him."
The photos taken by the Navy Chief that night dispute the official version. According the Navy Chief only two rounds were fired and both hit bin Laden in the head in a tight shot group. The official vesion has him being shot in the chest and later in the head.
But keeping the shot close on a man that is moving is near impossible. bin Laden if shot in the chest first would be falling to the ground. Then hitting him with a close shot group in the head would be near impossible. And more rounds are fired in the official version. bin Laden's bodies has to have the holes to prove they were fired.
This is why we don't and will not see the photos of the deceased bin Laden. They confirm the tight shot group to the head.
Before moving on the second part of this. Which of these two versions is better for a Hollywood movie? Which includes President Obama?
Then you have Romney's RNC address of only a few hours ago....in which war was mentioned about twice. The least amount of sabering rattling from a RNC nominee since 1952 (Eisenhower)
This is coming from a administration that surged in Afghanistan, eventually allied with Europe to snuff out Kdaffi, has sent guns to war making drug cartels in Mexico, left 35,000 in Iraq, and has not shut down GITMO.
While ignoring the Syrian Sunni that are being cut to ribbons by Russian, Iranians and Syrian forces. And just today, had Iran's Beushur reactor went to 100% online. But of course all options are on the table (remember those dead Iranian nuclear scienctists) and a few are under the table (Suxnet virusing of centrifuges) for Iran. And just a week ago, a no fly zone over Syria was in discussions.
Who is Biden kidding?
Biden is making a play to solidify the left wing of the DEM party that are anti war. This is not about Romney position on making war to Syria or Iran.
But Biden, like our thread master has the ability to read minds and to predict futures. He should not be VP Biden, but Prophet Biden of the DEM movement. Ah yes, only yesterday President Obama called the DEM party a 'movement'. Like I said that veil drops once in while.
So let us consider earlier movements in the world of politics.
The 1903 Communist Movement of Russia (Marx and Lenin) The 1925 Communist Movement of North Vet Nam (Ho Chi Ming) The 1949 Communist Movement of China (Mao Tsetung) The 1969 Communist Movement of Cuba (Castro) The 1990 Communist Movement of Venezeula (Chavez) The 2012 --------- Movement of United States (Obama)
All were movements before they were parties in single control of a government and country.
Well I did not fill in the blanks for President Obama's movement. But if you connect the dots and can see that every 2 or 3 decades a certain type of movement comes around, you to can be a prophet and mind reader too. If you also note, that when that movement solidifies it does away with political opposition. But it always does this from a working class that has become 'poor'.
Biden, of course if asked that they have moved the DEM party into being a 'movement' will deny the claim. But movements are different than political parties. Political parties desire to work within the established government framework. Movements desire to destroy the established government framework for something else.
The 2010 mid term was the first shots of the this conflict. The DEM movement was totally shocked that Americans had seen thru the hope and change of Barack Obama. They were stunned in the results of the 2010. As DEM of left and mid road were laid asunder in mass numbers. Americans rose to defend their Country and Constitution.
Today that is the real 'war' of this 2012 election. Not Iran or Syria. But does the country slip slide to the left and a one party stagnation or remain dedicated to freedom and liberty in a Constitutional government.
He just said that the Romney/Ryan would kick 16 million kids and seniors off medicare.
First kids are not eligible for medicare
Second under Ryan's plan, no one over 55 will lose medicare.
Joe is having a rough month. Maybe this is why he not doing a DNC stage address in Charlotte. Time is getting to old Joe. Obama is stuck with him, since Hillary is not going to step in.
So place him in the middle of a football stadium and the cameras are farther away....the croud noise covers his gaffs.....Obama will be on the stage with him.....so he can direct him on the stage some.....and you can whisk him away with a helo...so seeing him walk a distance does not cringe the audience.
Been thinking about how Obama and Biden are going to enter the Charlotte stadium. First impressions are everything. So a standard entry by car......is a no,no. Doing a Queen Elizabeth helo/para jump into the stadium has already been done in London. Starting to think that using catapult for Biden might be the best way.
One of the ancient ones, maybe a Truechent or Ballista, with a range of a 1000 yards. It can fling him above the stadium walls to a big airbag in the middle of the field. No need to pull the para chute chord. Old Joe might have trouble there. The Truechent would drag along on the ground for 15 yards before going airborne......and that might mess his suit up some.
But President Obama can dust him off. Straighten him up. Put his dentures back in.
Of course for President Obama I got this figured out. Remember the DEM NASCAR for the Charlotte raceway? Oh yeah. President Obama is coming in driving the DEM NASCAR ZOOM ZOOM ......if runs out of gas on the stadium track.....some REP line man likely filled the tank for him. You got to know he does not do self service.
After taking the checkered flag and doing a doughnut in the middle of stadium grass. He is going to slide out that NASCAR with a blue racing helmet on. Blue and light blue kevlar racing suit (made in America) on. With a DEM logo on the back with a donation website to contact! Send your money now, please!
At the far end of the stadium is a ramp. When Biden and Obama get done with their addresses....they remount the NASCAR.....for around the track run at the ramp. Hitting it at 100mph they will leave the stadium airborne. If they hit one mile per hour less than 100mph it is splat on the stadium walls.
It is kind of like their economic policies. If they get re-elected in 2012.....if they miss them again like they did in 2008.....it is splat on the wall for America.
For those that doubt Ryan's abilities. See him at work. A 32 minute video of his presentation at the Bush Foundation on the 4% solution, taxes and economic stimulating the small business sector.
As you .....ask yourself the question. Which America better pays back the the 2t in foreign debt that owed. One with a 4% growth rate or one with a > 2% growth rate. One with a big government or one with a small and lean government......
There is a enlighten European view. Send the troggs to the mines. Get them out of sight. Remember eventually the troggs rebelled. Kind of reminds me of China and 3m prisoners digging rare earth metals for iPods.
But back to the comment that "99% of politician are to bland' for Rumple4skin. Americans like bland politicians. They keep the country from breaking out into rebellion and civil war. The 1% extremist politicians would have blood in the street and bodies hanging on the light polls. Oh.....now that sounds alot like Sadam Hussien and Bashar Assad.
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RE: Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?
No big deal. The SS has 269 officers with weapons that investigate SSI fraud cases. This often takes them into places were a weapon is needed.Government needs to provide them would rounds for training and for rounds for their investigations.