RE: November 2012 is near America! Obama Rocks, and even GOP knows this, and do not know what to do a bo

Most of us are hoping that California will fall off the continent and President Obama can give it to them......for the debt owed to the Chinese.

RE: November 2012 is near America! Obama Rocks, and even GOP knows this, and do not know what to do a bo

So basically you vote for him because he gives things away. I know short and revised 'tough love' wording of your post. I like Obama as well. I have helped his administration by continuing the White House appointment Clinton gave me in 1989. In fact, some of my best work was under this president.

But the work would have been the same if it was McCain or Obama. Your personal integrity with such appointment goes with the work. Beside who is to say that McCain, Romney, Santorum, Grinrich would not give away as much as Obama does?

Name a REP president that did not have welfare program, a health and human services, a low cost food program, ....etcetcetc.....

RE: Your Government Is Firing Upon YOU...

Just listened to a u-tube vid of the two French reporters that were wounded with the reporter that was killed. Both asked for France to intervene and come to their rescue. They have pretty serious wounds that the Syrian freedom fighter don't have medical facilities for. Also they say that Assad has asked his military to kill any foreign journalist caught in the country.

This is were personal responsibility comes into play. They choose to go into a civil war zone and take the risk that they did. Ask Ernst Hemingway that fought and was wounded in the Spanish civil war of the 30s. Just because you are a foreigner coming to do 'the right' thing, a bullet does not know that.

Ask the Flying Tigers that went to China to take on the Japanese Air Force in the late 30s. Not all of them came home.

So is your choice to get mixed up in something like this or not. Just know that the rules that Assad's people are playing by aren't fair and nice. That once there, there is little your country can do for you
if wounded or caught. Because it is very unlikely the French are going downtown Homs to bring these French two female reporters out.

Then again....President Obama might loan Sarkozy.....SEAL Team 6 for a mission. Because if you are going into downtown Homs, that is the way to go. French have special forces units as well. I hope they use them in this case. To get the women out.

RE: November 2012 is near America! Obama Rocks, and even GOP knows this, and do not know what to do a bo

This deserves two thumbs up.....thumbs up thumbs up

RE: USA ability...

After the Taliban get Afhganistan back....that according to the NATO that interview the alQeada and Taliban POWs.....I am sure the poppie acreage will decrease in the country and Iran will not be a funneling country for opinion to Europe. Then again....the old silk trail of addicted drugs and death....is about as old as Islam.

RE: USA ability...

Albert, I am trying to be a friend here. Just get with the program. Real world history does not matter in these threads. That Sadam forces were in Kuwait days before the first US troop was in Saudi to halt the agression. Simply does not matter. Only the ideological position of the writer does.....dancing

RE: USA ability...

Common on Albert get with the program. You know that GWB, Cheney and Rumsfield sat in a dark White House Situation room for days talking nothing other than invading Iraq for its oil. All three would go home at night, when their wives asked them....how did the day go, honey?
All the three could answer is IRAQ, IRAQ, IRAQ. or SADAM, SADAM, SADAM.or OIL,OIL,OIL...........dancing

RE: November 2012 is near America! Obama Rocks, and even GOP knows this, and do not know what to do a bo

That is a step in the right direction?....giving the Syrians to the Mullahs.....and Sharia Law.....I am now getting my visions of amputations, hangings and stonings.....but let us not say Muslims are oppressed by Sharia Law and its Mullahs. yadda yadda yadda.........doh

RE: November 2012 is near America! Obama Rocks, and even GOP knows this, and do not know what to do a bo

Russia has already shown the new ICBM they want. They are working with the Brazil on a stleath fighter bomber. And we know they can make nuc subs. So Putin is not talking shye.

But he sure put a big hole in the START agreement. About the size of a Russian ICBM. He made Obama look like a naive and inexperienced leader, Dude. Not that we have not said that in the past. But Putin just proved it.

Russia's quick reverse on the START agreement shows that Obama biggest diplomatic gain to date was not worth the paper it was written on.
Personally, I don't care. With the EMP weapons and radars, we can handle but Putin massive ICBM and his stealth aircraft. If attacked, they fall out of the "sky like leaves". That is a quote from Testla that first had the idea of using EMP like this following WWI.

Putin has a lead in the poll so is likely the next Russian leader for the next decade or so. He is no peace nik with a Russian weapon modnerization program like this. So? Does the EU bend over and take Russian stealth jets were the sun don't shine?

Putin is saying....he can direct his long range ICBMs at the US and cover Europe with his stealth fighter bombers. He know the EU doesnot have the money or the political will power to upgrade to defend yourselfs. You cannot even bailout Greece right now.

The thing is. Neither the US or EU is a threat to Russian resources.
So Putin is blowing smoke at the Russian people. Now China a different deal. China is a real threat to Russian resources.

I said it in the past. The EU needs to increase it defense spending.
Putin coming back to office in Russia with this modnerization plan is a pretty good reason. Lastly aren't you happy we did those EMP weapons and radars for defending EU airspace?

RE: November 2012 is near America! Obama Rocks, and even GOP knows this, and do not know what to do a bo

I did not say birth control was bad. Nor do most conservatives. What I say is that Obama and Obamacare have forgotten the Constitution and separation of Church and State. This exactly why the separation of Church and State clause was placed into the Constitution by our fore fathers.

So that government would not make edicts to force those religious persons in the country to live to a government standard. Not only was Obamacare forced down the throats of Americans. It is now being forced down the throats of religious institutions.

How do you have religious freedom, when the government is making edicts on what happens inside the Church? What activities a church participates in? This is almost as bad as Sharia Law ruling on the acts of government officials. Because it goes ways today.

Old beliefs? There it is. Let us do away with beliefs systems and religions all together. yada yada yada. Let just have one religious for the masses and take a global vote on which one prevails....hint hint there are 1.5b Muslim in the world. They might vote as a block. Progressives and liberals linking hands with Islam in the world for a vote on if Christianity and Judaism should survive.

RE: 2012, is it the end of days ?!

Ever stop to thing that the way things have degraded here on CS.....having the world end in 2012 is not such a bad thing?

RE: USA ability...

And your Clinton quote is five years out of date......LOL

RE: USA ability...

Kon, Kon, Kon....trying to make Putin a peace nik in the middle of election year, I understand. But with that modernization plan....he just blew the START agreement out of the water. It does make Obama look like the biggest niavete on the planet to have the Russian breaking the START agreement within 12 months of the ink drying.

I can understand why he want to modernize. The new US EMP weapons have Russians over the barrel. Everything that he is fielding can be knocked down by EMP Weapons except the subs. So they are going the wrong way here. It is time to denuc big time. Smart for countries to do so now that energy directed weapons from the Reagon's Star wars program have been fielded. But who said Putin was smart?

The new Russian ICBM are giagantic lift vehicles....150 tons.....the bigger they are, the easier they are hit with EMPs.

And the last time, someone used ICBM or even Sub for a regional conflict like Chechnia was? Never or very seldom. So Mr. Putin is giving you a song and dance if that is the reasoning.. And the Russian people will pay for it in taxes. Big taxes. The same kind of taxes that eventually broke the Communist Russian back.

As for the US going broke. We still got enough in the piggie bank to make whole lot of these very cheap EMP weapons and radars. When compared to a nuc or ICBM or Sub or even advanced jets.

RE: USA ability...

So Putin is protecting the Russian people from a invasion from Germany? From Merkel's Germany? LOL Get real, will you.

I saw the real numbers on what he wants to add to his defense structure. I quoted them the best I could remember. Do you want a site? Just ask.

RE: USA ability...

Did you see Hillary show up in her Chartuese Green pant suit for the G-20 pics when everyone one else was in white shirts? Sometimes you just don't get the message.......LOL.......if the US troops are playing video game who is killing the Afghan people, if not the Taliban?

RE: USA ability...

Dang those Taliban are nasty.....

RE: USA ability...

That is funny one year before Obama had the marines kicking over poppy plants with their boots ...GWB had a aviation spray eridaction program that nearly whipped out the poppy production in Afghanistan....so says the UN.

RE: USA ability...

As you do that. Tell us just who Putin is defending Russia from?

A withdrawing US that has left Iraq and is leaving Afghanistan?

A NATO that needed US help to oust Kdaffi in Lybia?

A rising RED Dragon in China that shares a 2000 mile border very near those Russian Siberian oil fields?

Personally, I think Putin is throwing snow in your face....China military is growing. I admit that. But China is no dummy. Starting a war with Russia to gain it Oil assets makes little sense when China can buy the crude on the market from it vast BOP reserve.

I am surprised that Putin has not suggested running a new pipeline from Siberia to China. Think about it my European friends. That means a hole lot less Siberian gold for you. But that is a economic incentive for both countries.

But some people just like to play the oil card......to get military weapons.

RE: Strike Apart: Israel & US clash over Iran attack

But it is still bouncing on the table.....)))

RE: Iran - What War For Cryig Out Loud?

I don't think we are at a abyss, Albert. The US has made demonstration of the new EMP weapons to Iran over the last several months. How I know this, I cannot say.

But it has brought the Iranian and the NKoreans to the nuclear table.
Iran just let a UN atomic team in. And said it want nuclear talks. Then stopped short of letting them see a military base, that is suspected to be making a nuclear device. So? Maybe more demonstration of the EMP weapons are needed. Iran's call on that one.

The NKoreans began nuc talks directly with the US in Peking only a couple of weeks ago.

Hey if they are talking it is better than shooting, yes? So is there a abyss? Well if Iran or NKorea don't try to step across any imagined abyss to meet the US halfway.....we can make EMP weapons faster than they can make nuclear devices. We will have the ability soon to send either of these countries back into the stone age with out dropping a conventional or nuclear device on them.

RE: Strike Apart: Israel & US clash over Iran attack

And here only few weeks ago....the US and Israel shared the biggest joint military excerise that two national have ever conducted.....to think that being friends can end so quickly.wow

RE: 2012, is it the end of days ?!

I am breathing and above ground. So something good is happening this year.grin

RE: November 2012 is near America! Obama Rocks, and even GOP knows this, and do not know what to do a bo

One poly sci group said Putin wins in the first round of a election in next march election.

Putin said yesterday....that if elected President he would increase Russian Defense spending with modnerization program. That would be 400 new ICBMs, 600 aircraft, 12 subs. All told 774b in defense spending for the country.

Hand it to him....he knows how to keep the Russian unemployment rate down.

But......let us place this into context of the Obama White House and the defense cut he has imposed on the Department of Defense. He cut 610b in DoD spending one trip to the plate. Another 110b before that.
And recently cut military manpower by about 120,000.

So Putin modnerizes as Obama cuts. That protects the US and western Europe how?

Answers without a lot of graphical displays of hatred to REP and conservatives are greatly appreciated.))

RE: USA ability...

Ray has to looked at more u-tude video than any person I know. If Ray want the gosbel truth on any subject in the history of world. He goggles up u-tube to tell him what it is. That last time I considered u-Tube a creditable source was never.

Ray....if oil caused all these wars. Answer this with out searching u-tube.

Both GWB and Cheney were millionaire in their own rights. A person only needs so much money his or her life time. So if they found a way to seize all the crude from Afghanistan to the Caspian sea, what is the motive for them to do so? Not money, honey. They are already rich.

Just as selected add on to the post.

Putin said yesterday that if elected President....he would increase the Russian spending on armed force with a modernization program. To include 400 new ICBMs, 600 aircraft, 12 subs. Some 774b over a decade.

His logic to the defense spending increase?
Because foreign parties might want the resources (e.g. read oil) of Russia.

So sounds to me that Ray (and most of his arguments) are a mouthpiece for Putin.

But just between you and me. America is not going to place a army in Central Asia to take Russian oil resources. And make WWIII. But that is just between me and you....LOL

RE: USA ability...

Tell us how that democracy thing worked down in the Maldives? Here today and gone tomorrow....just don't let the people have a say. The AK-47 is a better way.

RE: November 2012 is near America! Obama Rocks, and even GOP knows this, and do not know what to do a bo

Dude read the article first before making comment......

news.yahoo.com/unemployment-rate-quietly-hits-nice-percent-003900024.html

See DEM are quietly hiding the fact that the unemployment rate is really climbing. As they tout the reduction in job claims. The reduction is often because people have run out of government assistance. They are still unemployed, but no longer qualify for government assistance.

DEM are playing with the wrong numbers in the economy. For election reaspons. There are really only three numbers you have to watch. GNP, unemployment, factory orders, to know which direction things are headed.

Anyways.......I wish it was not happening. But it is. It might signal a double dip recession. Some economists have been predicting another recession in 2012. This one worse than the 2008-9 recession.

Your turn.....

RE: USA ability...

It is not just that, Albert. Our new weapons are force enhancers and force multipliers. That is why you don't hear the Joint Chief or other Generals squawking about the big budget cut backs or the troop cut backs.

They can do more with less.

RE: November 2012 is near America! Obama Rocks, and even GOP knows this, and do not know what to do a bo

Iran's interior minister said the UN's Atomic inspectors are not going near where any of the Iranian nuclear sites. They are there to talk only.

Well it has been a nice try......but me hears John McCain humming "Ba, Ba, Barbara Ann in the background.

RE: USA ability...

Ever ask yourself what the difference is between a "lawful military order' and 'unlawful military order' is? The UMCJ defines the difference for American service people.

Many a true story of American service personnel refusing illegal military orders from commanding officers in the time of war. Many taking the responsibilty to refuse a illegal order.......but maybe that is what makes a civil difference between man and animal kingdom.

RE: USA ability...

I know a lot of men and women in and of the military service that never shot a weapon in anger. Alot that never were on the battle field.
Alot that served their country with honor and distinction and never once took a human life.

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