RE: Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?

Alan Greyson is back. Running for one of the two new Congressional districts in Florida. Greyson has a Social Security add out....were.....his opponent REP Long is going to 'privatize' social security.

This of course to many DEM is a hot button that triggers a immediate reflex reaction.....and Greyson's add has them saying to REP Long.....

"REP Long, Keep your hands off my Social SECURITY".

Greyson's add is likely the model for the Obama/Biden attacks adds that are going to come on Romney/Ryan regarding Social Security. So it is worth a moment to first clarify and explain REP privatization ideas of SSI.

If I was to tell you, there was a government program for a retirement funding, that you paid into during your working year, that the FEDERAL gov't invested in bank bonds collecting a interest, and then later when you hit the retirement years, began to repay you......you might call it a "privatize program" because of the bank bond purchase. Well that is what SSI was when first developed by FDR to be in the 1930s. These bonds were called "Trusts".

But over time, the original concept of SSI was legislately altered. SSI payment went first to the Government's General fund, were they (Congress) could shift them from the purchase of trusted bank bonds.
Both pasties have tapped it in the past. But this is one of the reason that SSI today is going broke.





What also has happened is as the countries birth rate changed post WWII, it means that a flood of baby boomers coming into the repay side. Drawing the invested funds down to approaching insolvency levels.

The REP want to further privatize the payout part of SSI. Running a private firm to write checks and mail them out...is cheaper than paying the host of Government unionized worker bees to do it. But as for changing the main concept of SSI....government collection of SSI payments and investing them in interest bearing bank bonds, the 'Trust' part. No. That stay the same. This is the REP goal of most that REP. You may have a few that want other changes as well. I know Ron Paul has some ideas on SSI.

Other countries are privatising their SSI. To reduce management cost.






The later is a 35 page report from AARP in privatized SSI around the world. So privatization of SS is not a radical concept. They been doing it since the 1990s. It has to be done with fiscal responsibility. You want a private company that can process the millions of SSI checks that are mailed out monthly. One that has solid banking relationship with some major accounts.

It is not radical a concept as the DEM are saying. Poland, Chile and Nicagua have been doing it for over 20 years.

RE: Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?

This is my last for the night. But it is a good one.

Check out the Iranian General flashing a salute to the Iranian and North Korean leaders in the photo. He has a beard, sun glasses, and looks like a door man at a hotel in New York City.

doh

RE: Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?

The first TARP one were part of the Bush debt that went to the 10.2t debt that Obama inherited. Most economist felt the economy needed the stimulation in the fall of 2008.

But on the second TARP, economist were really divided on it. And Obama broke his first campaign promise of reducing the debt by 1/2 with it.

For your trillion dollar bailouts spending to Sachs, Morgan Stanley, and others, please show us some sites to were they got the trillions. I am sure you can, yes?

I sited mine in the TARP II site. So take it up the referenced site. They been tracking the bailout and its repayment since 2009. I am sure they will add your trillions in bailouts to be added, if accurate.

RE: Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?

President Obama just got a.....tongue kind of welcome at Suix City airport today. A Banner read "Obama ...SUX .....We Did Build This"



SUX ...is the FAA 3 letter code for the airport. This airport has a history. In the 1989, a DC 10 made a crash landing at the SUX airport. It has been done in movies. The DC 10 lost control and the pilot steered the aircraft in a right turn with throttles only for hours prior to the landing attempt.

But on getting near the runway, they lost control and the aircraft impacted hard in a cornfield on the airport. Breaking apart and exploding. The airport fire department and airport staff saved 100s of passenger and crew that day.



Am not saying what they did is right, here. Am saying that this is one of those airports that has proud and long history. Seem like President Obama just flew into the wrong one at the wrong time.

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RE: Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?

Hillary Clinton is not...I say again NOT going to replace Joe Biden on the DEM ticket. Nor is she going to campaign for the Obama/Biden ticket.

This is coming from Klein the author of "Amateur". Klein on Huckabee tonight said his Clinton sources said that Hillary was querried by Jarrel in the White House about taking the VP slot. Hillary told her no. Not in such a direct manner. But according Klien, it is a lose lose for Hillary. If she runs and wins with Obama and wants to run for President in 2016, she had to defend his presidency. If she runs with him and loses, then she have been painted as a loser for the 2016.

Hillary is not even going to be at the DNC. She is going to .......get this..... Valdavostock Russia...a remote penn in western Russia for
some State Department business. The last I heard the Russian were talking about a tunnel under the Bearing Sea to Alaska. So President Obama getting the no from his Sect of State sends her packin for tunnel talks with Russia, maybe. Else its harbor seals and a migatory bird talks. Nor is she campaigning for the Obama/Biden ticket this year.

All the time, again according to Klien. Bill is long hand writing his DNC address. It seem, he is not going to placed it on the teleprompter! He is getting near hourly phone calls from the White House to find out its content is. Bill ain't saying. With Klien's expose of Clinton comments of Obama in his book, and Hillary thinking a 2016 run, the White House is going ......frazzled. They know that Bill could sink the good ship Obama. Such would give Hillary run at the Romney/Ryan record. And not have to defend the Obama record as she leaves next year.

So will Bill sink the good ship Obama?

I think that this comes down to money. Obama promise Hillary to pick up her extended campaign costs of the 2008 DEM primary after he won. If he has paid the debt. Bill will play it straight. If not, Bill is a loose cannon on the DNC stage. If those hourly phone calls are being made. You count your pocket change and be sure, Obama reneiged.



It is this campaign debt promise of Obama, I think got Bill calling Obama the names that Klien picked up on for his book.

On the bigger picture for the 2012. This means that the die hard Hillary supporters.....have a choice. She has unlocked them to vote Romney and Ryan. Say what you might, Hillary still has a die hard voter block in the country of several million. They are just waiting for her 2016 announcement. But till then, they get the Obama/Biden or Romney/Ryan choice. If they think that Obama mistreated Hillary by reneiging on the campaign debt or sending her into the wilds of Russia or refusing to allow her to speak at the DNC....sade bar the door.

Romney's got their vote on a platter. For free!

I also see trouble on the DNC floor over this. Obama and Biden are not going to make any appearance on the DNC floor. They are only going to be at the stadium. Again this from Klien. This way if the floor does melt into a fight, they have stayed out of the fray.

You got know that Hillary and Bill can make a very good floor fight if they choose. It will be some technical little thingee in the platform or rules.....remember how Obama used the DEM rules to oust Hillary in the 2008. But they can get 500+ delegates doing a rhant on the party platform/rules easy enough.

So Obama is forced to stay with Biden. And with Ryan having a 10 point approval rating over Biden, it just might be the factor that swings this to Romney. Again the Clinton's, a shrewd American political team as any made in modern American history. Obama came and played in what they thought was 'their inherited 2008 DEM nomination'. And now, they are in a position to play in his 2012 repeat campaign.

RE: Picture Time III

LOL .......He is loved in Military services world wide.....

RE: Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?

I think that you got it. The 2009 bailout was the biggest hope of a trickle down stimulation of the economy that we have had.

Here a link to the 928 bailout firms and their recent paybacks of the bailout loans.



Only about 50% of these loans have been repaid. If these firms begin to default on the loans.....in a sluggish economy > than 2% growth is a sluggish economy.....what happens?

Again the firm faces a devaluation of their credit ratings. Bond holders around the world get nervous and the financial monitoring firms Moodys, S and P....will again look to devalue first the borrowing frims. Then the lending organization that made the bad investment....the good old USA.

With that devaluation your next car will carry a higher interest rate.
The foreign commerce that country does will carry a higher interest rate. You next house or student loan....higher interest rates.

Until those 928 firms pay off the last dime of the bailout, the taxpayer is on the hook. Already CBO is saying they see 60b that is not going to be repaid. Note they are not saying from whom. But you want to bailout a firm twice in four years time? Not me. Let it sink. M and A it. Merger and Acquisition it. Merge some of the division and sell others. My instincts are saying that is what the this nest stimulus is about. Covering the failing firms of the 928.

This is what I meant earlier about playing a hand of cards with the bailout. Obama put the 800b on the table. Having a weak economy and weak global economy. If he had held, checked and got new cards.....with new innovation (like my fuel cell) and DoD contracts.....we might be in a better place. We will never know.

But to be fair and not just doing political giggles on this. We bought a car during the 2009 bailout. Got a good deal on it from a dealer that was closing. I just sold it 6 months ago and because of the good buy, made some money on it. Some people were kept a afloat and homes with the housing refinancing but not all. So some benefit in main street did occur. But you had to be in a financial shape to take advantage of it. Most were not.

Just call me frugal and a conservative. When I push 800b into the pot, my forehead sweats.....)) and my hand shakes a little. Obama did this way to easy with a all DEM government in 2009.

RE: Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?

I thank you for the compliment. It take years of acquiring trivial knowledge and skills of low demand.....to do what I do.rolling on the floor laughing

RE: Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?

Yep there is American unions at work.....

RE: Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?

This labor day....to drive you car from one coast to the other coast.....figure about a $500 gas bill for a one way trip. Not as many Americans will be jumping in the car and headed to friends and family is the net effect of Obama's non energy policies of the last four years.

President Obama has been very successful in keep the prices of energy high in the term. He complains about our success in building that. The government did it. Then why cannot the government be a reason for the
high gas prices????

FEDERAL tax on a gallon of gas is 18.4 cents per gallon. Coughing? Put 20 gallon in your tank....and you just gave Washington $3.68. Go across the country.....you just gave Washington $27 of the $500.

Is 18.4% of $4.00 more than 18.4% of $3.50? For the math challenged. The answer is yes. Hence President Obama has little incentive to bringing the price of gas down. If he does he is getting less revenues from the FEDERAL gas tax. The way the DEM look at this....high gas prices are a good thing. It is more tax revenues to spend on benefit programs....or Nancy Pelosi's California Marsh Mouse.))

If you want dollar and cents reasons why President Obama did not sign the Keystone....did not expand drilling in FEDERAL lands....shut down offshore drilling during the PB release....keeps offshore area on the east coast closed to drilling....has kept the Alaskan fields from be expanded. It is that 18.4 cents per gallon. The higher the gallon price....the more the Government gets in taxes.

We are not going to have a green electric auto revolution in this next four years. GM is barely keeping the Volt line open. The lithium battery technology for the Volt is literally exploding. The is the votaile nature of lithium....all lithium batterys have same potential fire and explode if they burst and the heated lithium comes into contact with air. So the green auto technology of lithium is not proven safe as of yet. It is good enough to drive. But crash safety is still a issue. So we are still stuck with gas.

With the Obama administration is high priced gas.

Romney/Ryan energy independence by 2020 promise changes this. Unlikely is that the 18.4 per gallon tax will come down....it might.....but not significantly. But you do all the things to be energy independent will drive the cost per gallon down. So the 18.4% tax is on a cheaper gallon of gas.

Even though Obama has increased the production of crude in the country to the highest in 26 years and to it highest export level. But did the price of gas come down in the country? No. Why foreign demand and speculation in the market place kept it high. In the last month, the price per barrel has spiked to $120 and dropped to today's $92. Almost a $30 difference. Did the pump price come down recently? Nope.

We are not energy independent enough yet to have a low pump price when world events....and weather events......and geo political events occur.
Our energy independence has to be resistant to global events. The only way to do that, is to be very near 100% energy independent and the government has the speculator under control.

Obama is not going to take us there. His vision is a green America.
One with flaming Fischers and Volts. But still energy independent, in long term. No official energy program by the Obama adminstration has been given in 4 years.

Romney and Ryan's plan will get us to being energy independent sooner. With that, our pump prices will come down sooner and will resist global events that effect price more.

RE: Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?

Since it is still in the news here. Eastwood.......

Do you think that I or other REP have a problem with Eastwood speech at the RNC? Dude does. Many hard left liberals do. They see it as being degrading of the non President. Did I say that?

That is what freedom of speech is about. You can be critical of a government leader. You can poke fun at them a little. You can tell the truth about them. And they are not suppose to place you under arrest or to file criminal charges on you because you write a book contradicting their 'official version'.

Romney said he found Eastwood 'enjoyable'. Eastwood got standing reviews in the late night talk shows. They are doing a photo serise of Eastwood talking to a empty chair......I hope they do a bumper sticker version.

But the far left liberals are doing twittering kamakasee attacks on Eastwood. Why is that? They are twittering massive amounts of complaints and anger at him. I have my freedom of speech. But say something that offends me, you cannot have freedom of speech because of my sensitivities! LOL.....Grow up liberals. Get off your sorry behinds and become adults.

This is just the very old and very obnioxous liberals of the past. Doing shout outs. Disrupting church services. Only now they are out to dominate the net. When ever a REP comes out with a smart commentary or a impacting post they come at him from all angles.

So hang in there Clint. If "Anyway but Loose" does not work.....be sure that the world's most powerful hand gun will.....

RE: Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?

He just does not see it yet. Been crushing the numbers on the demographics some. Not ready to post them. But just lets say, it looks good for the Romney/Ryan team.

RE: Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?

Nope. Been that way for years Dude. Remember that little thing called the Constitution? It let the state set up their laws for elections.
Once the primary were done and nomination process was done.

The data from the local counties election office...name changes, relocations, felons (that cannot vote) are sent to the State Election office. Then more culling of the record is done. The State of Florida wanted to compare the State's general registry to the Federal government illegal alien data base. To keep illegal aliens from voting.

It went to court. The FED government saw a losing case....and relented.
This General Election for the first time in Florida, all illegal alien will be deleted from the Florida registry.

Do you have a problem with that?

RE: Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?

First of all this is a really good interactive site on what the US owes in foreign debt.



If you want to find out what the US owes various countries around the world this is pretty easy to use to find out.

The numbers are from 2011.....

But the point I came to is this.

What does the 4% solution do for the world economy and then for individual countries economies around the world? Simple it means both are paid back billions sooner than if we remain at the Obama's >2.0%
grown rate.

China economy has slowed in the last year. Europe is in austerity. Asian economies are slower today. The middle east is well the middle east. South America can use a injection of funding for growth. Africa is always in seek of capitol injections.

If the US begins to repay these debts, the owed countries will have billions in additional funds to ease austerity, jump start economies, take on new projects or expand human benefits packages.

Do you think that Britian could use $333b? It gets that $333b the US owes it sooner if the US has a 4% growth rate. Germany has been funding many of the austerity programs in the EU. Think that Germany could use 61.4b? That is what the US owes Germany. A 4% percent solution gets that 61b into the German economy and government hands sooner that the present Obama repayment plan.

I think that many in the world look at the US debt wrong. Rather than sees it as a opportuntity to get a large return if the country turn the corner on a solid economic recovery. They see it has a inheritant weakness in capitolism. But a healthy US economy can be a real spark plug to global economic recovery. Assuming those loans are paid back.

Even in the old Communist and WARSAW pact days, the socialist countries made large loans to each other. So just being socialist is not going to halt these government lending practices. The question is does a America that is moving toward a socialist model repay the loans or does a America that is based on a free economy model repay the loans better. The REP have identified the problem and have developed plan to solve it. What has Obama done? Borrowed more foreign money. For a US stimulus package. That just digs the hole deeper.

Obama GNP growth rate of the last four years been less than 2%. If Ryan is right, his coming tax policies are going to drop it to 1%.
That is the effect of his socialist model on America. Ryan is right you place a 44% tax on American business, our GNP will decrease. We will not be competitive in the global marketplace. Our risk taking will decrease. Because there has to be profit incentive for risking taking to take place.

The impact of a solid American economy in the world is what? If billions being pay back our foreign loans and paid back sooner is positive to the global economy and foreign economies......then Romney and Ryan is the next administration you want in the White House.

RE: Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?

Let me explain my answer here. With the primaries done and the nomination process nearly done.....Florida election offices (and I suspect most other states election offices are the same) no longer list the voters by party in their registries. The primaries list of REP, IND, Liberian, DEM, Green, and all the rest of the minority parties are compiled into a 'master registry'. That goes to the state election office for final review and approval.


Literally from here on out to the General election in November....they are all just "American voters" without party identification.

Get it?

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American

RE: Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?

If the Stimulus and President Obama's economic policies had worked......

why is the FED considering another stimulus package?



More government and tax payer money is going to big banks and big companies at the cost to the American citizen, main street small business man that has been the driving force to what little economic growth that the country has seen since 2008.

Ryan says that if the Bush tax cuts expire in 2012, the grow rate of the country will fall to 1% from the present 1.8% growth rate. Because if you tax, you kill growth and hiring. Rather Ryan is proposing broad based tax cuts that fall across all the incomes levels.

Ryan says that if Obama business taxes are placed into effect....the US tax rate for small business will be 44%, one of the highest rates in the world. Canada's business tax rate is 15%, Japan's is 13% and most of the countries we compete with in the global market are less.
Ryan plan would drop small business tax rate to 25% from 33%. Stimulating small business hiring and risk taking.

But the only way to drop the taxes rate, is cut the FEDERAL government's size and spending.

RE: Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?

How did the voters take Mitt Romney's acceptance address of last night?

"Forward Thinking"

"Jobs give people hope"

"He makes good points comparing Barack Obama to Jimmy Carter."

"That is the message Americans want to hear, help is on the way."

RE: Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?

Paul Ryan and Debbie Wassermann Schulz on keeping the American benefits programs solvent.

RE: Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?

A have to see 32 minute of Paul Ryan speaking at the Bush Foundation on the 4% Solution. He covers the debt issue, austerity and the road to prosperity.

GWB is in attendance. And about 500 leading REPs

RE: Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?

VP Biden is doing it again.

He just said that if the auto firms did not get bailout out.....then 20,000 new auto employes would have been hired......and 1,000,000 jobs woul d have been lost

1,000,000 JOBS! Joe....please.

The restructured GM employees only 68,500. The restructured Crystler only 51,200.....and the support industries that make parts for the auto firms does not come close to 900,000.

Joe is expanding numbers again. Close your eyes and just blow on them and they grow in size.

But this is exactly why we need Paul Ryan in the office. The Vice President is the head of the Senate. A key position for budget making and getting financial legislation done.

With Joe there, it is like a having a computer who's hard drive needs to be defragged. Ryan knows the importance of accurate numbers. When he takes them to the President, Mitt Romney, they will be right. Joe Biden's numbers that come to the Oval Office are fuzzy wish fores.

You cannot run a household, a business, or a government with fuzzy numbers. They have to be solid and concrete. Not want to be's.

RE: Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?

President Obama inability to stop the PB oil spill continues to haunt the beaches of the South East Gulf states. With Hurricane Isaac stirring up the deep water near the bottom...the fear is tar balls from the PB well release come ashore.

With the coastal gaming casino opening up again, the locals fear is that families will not come to the coast to enjoy labor day events. In fact many of the beaches have been closed. Because of the potential tar balls.

Really had the FEDERAL government shut off the well head sooner, this would be small problem. Less tar would be on the bottom. But it took 93 day and a New York City plummer to shut down the well head.

Well you know that with all those PhDs in the Department of Energy scratching their heads and the White House kicking the first tar balls for photo opts. It is sad to see them come back.

Well one must look to the future. With voter's supporter we will not see President Obama kicking tar balls after any Hurricane that strikes after January of 2013.

RE: Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?

I just got a note from Barack Obama.

GUESS What?????

He just said this is his LAST campaign. Like even if he loses, he will not try again in 2016.

I quote....

"This is my last campaign. And I am ready to give it all I got."

What does that sound like to you? I know it is a pitch to get the donator money. But he is definitely thinking that this is last campaign.

RE: Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?

Romney is already showing leadership in the flooded area of Isaac. He and Ryan flew straight to Lousiana and New Orleans to meet with Governor Jindal and first responders today. REP began a fund with the Red Cross to aid with clean up costs.

President Obama will come in to the area on Monday.............

RE: Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?

What did the President tweet about Eastwood's RNC address?

The President said...."The seat is taken" and then he attached a pic of chair with him sitting in it.

REP are understanding group. After the November election and Romney's Oath in January 20th, we will allow the former president to keep the chair. If he wants. If fact he can take the bust of Winston Chruchill with him as well.....

RE: Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?

So you think that this is a great accomplishment?

Of the 7m person military (reserve and active duty) will discharge about 125,000 per month. So Obama administration in find employment for only 125,000 per year is only locating about 1/12th of the annually discharged services persons annually.

What a great Obama accomplishment for our honorably discharged veterans and their families doh

But the real fact is. In 2009 the unemployment rate for discharges VETs
was.................8.0%..................just about the national average.

RE: Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?

Try these other minority endorsers of the Romney and Ryan team as well.
Martinez, Fonelledas, Valenzuela, Cruz, Fortuno, Haley, Davis, Sunono,
Ah what the heck....this year we all are immigrants......or had you not heard that?

Yep, Romney said that everyone here is a immigrant.......even his parents.rolling on the floor laughing

RE: Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?

He was talking to the Presidential non person that was suppose to be the chair......don't worry about it Agman....it is old timer comedy routine.
Clint was speaking to the 16m seniors in the country.

Lockin their vote in for Grandfather Romney.....

RE: Romney and Ryan really better than Obama and Biden benefiting most Americans?

Read my post above.

Are saying the country cannot do a 4% GNP growth rate. When Clinton has one in the 1990s?

Or that energy indendnace is not viable when we have 2t barrels of shale wiating to be drilled

Or that we cannot improve our education system? When it like number 35 in the world.

Or that ofirgn trade agreements cannot be signed? China just sign 15 of them in last 4 years

Or that if take government reg and rule off small busines, they are not going to flourish in the country?

So which one or all is not realistic?

You should not take Dude words speaking for the GOP programs as being factual. He does not even know what Obama's plans are.

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