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RE: Wall Street Isn't Impressed With Republican Candidates

Why should Wall Street be impressed with REP candidates, when they have Barack Obama in the White House giving them 5.2 T R I L L I O N in hidden loans?

With that kind of money, Barack Obama bought every major corporation
on Wall Street.

I once said, I would not go back into the stock market as a investor until saw....the Clintons, Gores, and other moderate DEMs do it. See any of them announce major stock purchases in the last three years?
They knew it stank, Ooby.

Barack Obama did not need new regulations for Wall Street, he needs a full time accounting firm to handle the interest of the 5.2 T R I L L I O N in hidden loans he made.

Each individual American just acquired $168,831 in new debt with the 5.2 T R I L L I O N that Obama approved in bailout loans. It did not go Congress for a debate. It did not get discussed in the Town Halls. It did not play a role in the mid term election of 2010. And it surely placed the country over the debt limit of 16 Trillion.

Wall Street loves Obama at this point. He quarranteed Executive golden parachutes for next 40 years.

Now to be fair....if one can with number in the Trillions...GWB showed him the way to promised money land by doing 1.2 TRILLION in hidden loans earlier. Ben Bernake of the FED....got his jobs extended into the Obama years....because he knew were the loans were buried.

Americans should vote them all of office just on this one odious issue alone...and Congress should asking for a complete accounting of the 7.7 Trillion.

And if you think I am using mofia terms for no reason in the post, you are wrong.......

RE: for all men born around 1950,are there any left ? What are we loosing most ?

Give me another 15 years to catch up on this one. I am not running as fast as I use too.......

RE: for all men born around 1950,are there any left ? What are we loosing most ?

For someone born exactly in 1950......I consider myself to still maintain most of these vital manly functions.

RE: Bin laden must be rolling inside his grave great in laughter because he has finally achieved what he

I have a idea....... ....let us take it all back. I would rather be called a indian giver, than to give to people that hate us.

RE: Bin laden must be rolling inside his grave great in laughter because he has finally achieved what he

Dang did you see what happen on Black Friday? Consumer sales are up 7% over the previous year. Most in the US had turkey and dressing for
Thanksgiving.....the exception there....the WSO....living by choice in tents had cool aide and trail mix.

Even with the broken Washington DC.....the American economy struggles on.....and on......and on.......and on......and on. Kind of like the Energizer bunny.

RE: Bin laden must be rolling inside his grave great in laughter because he has finally achieved what he

Bin Laden swims with the fishes, no grave to roll around in......

RE: If you don't read another thing, you must read this article, all of it.

Just out of curiosity. If a piece in posted in the New Yorker.....does that not alone make it a liberal leaning?

Frum flipped from being a conservative to a liberal back when he support Obama care in 2009....read page 4.

RE: Occupy Wall Street VS Tea Party?

PS Happy Thanksgiving.......

RE: Occupy Wall Street VS Tea Party?

Happy Thanksgiving Ooby Doobie,

Be sure get a drumstick.......

RE: Happy Thanksgiving, who would you especially want to thank?

We all have something to be thankful for. Sometimes we just don't recognize it. Our fault.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

RE: Now it is safe to say that i dislike republican policies more than other policies...

Could you name a few of these extreme view of the REP party for us?

With all this research.....you should be able to name off the top 10 extreme policies of the REP party.

RE: Obama,s plan: Living Within Our Means and Investing in the Future (Economic Growth & Deficit reducti

Maybe it was three Danes that were almost road kill in Washington...

But clearly this is concerted international effort of anarchist to disrupt the American society. Yet our Commander in Chief and POTUS cannot seem to bring himself to expelling them from the country.

As I said earlier....President Obama is the European President...so the American people got in 2008 what they voted in. One can only hope that in 2012, they are bit more wise and bit more selective in their choice.

Am wondering how FBI Director Hoover would be taking the Occupier on.
He is rolling over in grave today, knowing the lack of response by the FED government on the Occupiers. Hoover would have FBI agents within the Occupier camps taking names and getting backgrounds.

Indeed, one former NYCity Police Commissioner suggested just that. That the NYC police department send in it undercover agents into the
Occupier tent camp. But again you have liberal mayor Bloomberg sitting there and that ain't going to happen.

RE: Obama,s plan: Living Within Our Means and Investing in the Future (Economic Growth & Deficit reducti

Addressing something of a more divine nature and in per haps the past spirit of the country..the House passed bill that reaffirmed the American dollar bill motto "In God We Trust".

Quickly this was a attacked by the President.....who felt that the House should be working to pass his jobs act. While the President ends his TV addresses with 'God Bless America'...it seems when God comes between him and the job act, you better watch out. He needs those jobs for a 2012 election win.

Interesting the Occupiers, don't seem to start the day with a pledge of allegiance to the flag, a prayer, or even singing the countries
anthem. It is that $ bill that is bad bad bad in their view. They don't even carry American flags to blocking roads, ports or bridges.....

This truly is a international movement of anarchists on American soil.
All dressed up in funny costumes....and goulish garb....but still a un-
American movement. Think that I am wrong?

Check the name of the arrested for the rapes in NYCity.....one......Tonye Iketubosin. That is not a American name. Seems Tonye just had to come to the US to spread his message of how Wall Street was wrong wrong wrong. While at the same time raping American women.

But why is not the government of the States....not taking the photos of the Occupiers and running them thru the imagery databases of international criminals, terrorist, and known felons? That is pretty easy to do these days.

The reason is simple....they, the two DEM governors and the FED government, know that international anarchists and criminals are
within the Occupier movement and they don't want to identify them.

Failing to do even this basic act of investigation of IDing the Occupier, is were the State Gov't and FED Government are failing to protect the country and Americans. If they ID many professional anarchists within the Occupier movement, suddenly Obama's TSA comes under fire for failing to keep them out. That would not do......

So this has to be painted as a American political movement. Even though Tonye Iketubosin and foreign colleagues are in the midst of it.

RE: Obama,s plan: Living Within Our Means and Investing in the Future (Economic Growth & Deficit reducti

<--------- You know it is coming

With a concerted effort by more Occupier like the following, this movement could be dieing out pretty soon.

Three Occupiers in Washington were hit by a car. Witnesses say they ran in front of the car to block the roadway. Seems the three wanted to halt traffic on a main Washington roadway, were it is even dangerous and deadly for road crews to work. So the Occupier solution to blocking a road......run and jump in front of a moving car.

No citiation was given to the driver of the car. A citiation was given to one of the Occupiers for being in the street.

One witness said....."They likely thought that the driver was going to stop." While one Occupier said...."We were in the street, but this guy did not even give us a chance to get out of it." Zoom Zoom......

Well three occupier down........and headed to the hospital after nearly being road kill.

RE: Obama,s plan: Living Within Our Means and Investing in the Future (Economic Growth & Deficit reducti

Can we call this "Utopia Revisited"? See any Jarrel Loughners in the Occupier pics, Dude?

RE: Obama,s plan: Living Within Our Means and Investing in the Future (Economic Growth & Deficit reducti

Here is what I have put together....two DEM govenors are permitting rioting and criminal acts in their states to occur and are not sending in National Guard troops to bring law and order to the situations. CA and NY voters have to be going......what the F _ _ _!.....we vote this guy in and he lets the Occupier go wild in our streets. He does not even go to Washington to request the use of his National Guard to control the rioting.

And Washington is not going to give either approval to use those National Guards troops....many with tours in Iraq and Afghanistan...to come close to the Occupiers. Basically the White House is protecting the Occupiers from seeing the pointed end of a NG Bayonet. Yes they are very sharp.

So this is a lose lose for Obama, and the two DEM govenors. They cannot even control the far left of their own party and the IND and Moderate DEM want the streets safe. So they will head to the REP and Tea Party candidates in droves in the next election. You watch...Obama loses another 5-7 approval points over his inability to act here.

Perry of Texas has a win win going. If the Occupiers in Dallas and Houston give him a opportuntity with rioting....he will be to Washington in heart beat.....to request the freedom to us his National
Guard on them. Placing Obama in the position of rejecting a formal public request for aid on Occupier riots. Perry can show Obama to be President that would not even put down violent and destructive rioting in the country.

They don't 'cotton' to that kind of stuff in state of Texas Dude. It is law and order state thru and thru. Perry would use his National Guard to sweep the Occupiers out of the major cities faster than Houston engaged Santa Anna after the Alamo.....if he gets a chance to, Perry can become the law and order candidate of the REP party.

Lastly this blogger predicted this back after the Obama win in 2008.
The first American President to allow unopposed rioting and rebellion in the countries history.

Washington supressed the Whiskey Rebellion
Lincoln used FED Troops on the anti war riots on NYC
Wilson used Mac Author to clear the WWI VET Camp in DC
Johnson used National Guard troops on the Vet Nam Anti War Protestors

There are slew of other such incidents of the President using his office to restore public law and order from rioters.

So who is afraid of this and occupiers? I sit in Florida watching the Obama Administration and DEM party self destruct........LOL..........

RE: Obama,s plan: Living Within Our Means and Investing in the Future (Economic Growth & Deficit reducti

I got to hand it to African net scammers.....they get more creative every day! I just got a email saying 'the diplomat had arriving in the US with my check'

But this is like the present Administration.

'Vote for me, I have a check waiting for you. Please send donations to tide me over, till I get the economy working again and can find you a job.'

The current unemployment rate stands at 9.1%. It was never to go over 8.0% under the present Administration economic policies and programs.
But really the unemployment is much worse than 9.1%...you need add another couple of points for under employed and another couple of points for those no longer looking. It is more like 15%.

The average unemployeed in the country has been out of work for over 1 year. Today 1 in 16 families in the country falls under the base line for proverty....that is only $11,132 per year. This is what the present economic policies and programs have done to the country and its people. Foreclosurers are still high. Our property values have fallen by the billions because of the DEM decisions in Washington.

And DEMs want to re-elect the President? While they support the far left Occupier movement that is rioting and drugging up our cities?
The DEMs have sold the country a pig in a poke government. They are trying to make this pig fly with another election win. We all know that pigs don't fly.

It is almost criminal to consider keeping the Administration in office. Much less vote for it. For we begin to see in the Solydrin case and with other falling alternative energy loan cases of how they were simply bought by donator moneys to give away Tax payers moneys in questionable government loans.

Stop and think about the DEM made bailouts for a moment. The backroom deals on Obamacare. The missing Federal T-Bill plates. The sale of billions of US Treasuries to China. The sale of weapon system to Kdaffi Libya. Is this a government, you want for another 4 years?

DEM want to make the REP the cause of the economic disaster of the last 4 years. In the Senate, today are 13 Jobs related bills passed in the House. But being held up in DEM Harry Reid's controlled committee of the Senate.

REP organization like the Chamber of Commerce were kept from the White House Economic summit. When 3 of 5 jobs in the country are small business and private sector, the White House keeps their representative from a economic summit? Is that a fair and just American administration? That excludes the opposition from key economic summits that effect all of us?

It is clearly time for this one term Administration to go. Even the President said he would rather be a one term President and that they were going to be judged on the economic progress of the country. Today GNP rate is a faint 1.5% annually under this administration. Unless we change that any President elected next year will have difficult economic times to address.

At least if we elect a REP/Tea Party team in, we get a expanse of our oil industry, becoming finally a country that is energy independant, government contracts into new military systems for a increase in the DoD budget. A new flat tax that is fair to the entire country. A end to the costly Obamacare that effects 1/6 of the economy.

The rich who consume more will be taxed more under the flat tax. The poor who consume less will pay less in taxes. Our oil industry will put 1000s back to work and we can export oil products again on the world market. The slashed DoD budget making the country less security....even according to DoD Sect Penetta...will be increased to meet the global threats of tomorrow. But we recharge one of the principle economic cylinder of the country....Defense Contracting.
We get rid of the monsterity of Obamacare for a sane and cost effective
health care program.

So why keep the present Administration around, when we can place a new Administration in that will improve the country for all Americans?

RE: Obama,s plan: Living Within Our Means and Investing in the Future (Economic Growth & Deficit reducti

I think that it is only fair.....since President Obama really is the European President of the United States....that we take a CS poll of
things he and Michelle should do after his early retirement in
2012.

Personally I think that this is a good thing for the Obama family.

It was give him more time to spend with his family. And he is a very family oriented man. Time to see the girls dance receitals, basketball games, and graduations. Time for those diners and dates with Michelle.

It will give him time to be a US Good Will Ambassador to the world. Maybe be that UN Special Envoy. Here he can correct the course that Cuba recent has taken in allowing goods to be bought and sold by individuals....yes a move to Capitolism. President Obama can correct the Castro brothers change in economic policies to be more socialist.

And elsewhere in the world. He can show the world how to recover from high unemployment with that special socialist policy making style. Take Greece for example. He would do wonders to keep Greece within the EU...by giving a address at the Pentathon on how he single handed saved the American economy.

Of course if Greece rejects the EU bailout.....Greece is the first of several countries to fail....and the old EU and Euro will never be the same. So America seeing this problem has already sent President Obama to Davos for the economic summit. He is already on the problem.

So seeing that the President is so in tune with European problems and issues....I felt it only fair to get European opinion on how he should spend his retirement years. What do you think Dude? Here is a short list of possible post Obama activities. Feel free to add any.

1) Attend annually the Canne Film Festival

2) Buy a yacht and offer to sail around the world with the new/old Russian President Putin

3) Offer to do non profit community organization in various third world countries. Excluding those that he has bombed.

4) Set up a world environmental fund....to be managed by the Carbon Climate exchanges so that when any event in the world environment happens money (er some money) will be available to pore on it.

5) To place his name on a new Islamic terrorist detainee camp....located on man made island.....just off the coast of Denmark.
The Camp to be called.....Camp Barak Hussien Obama Detention Center for
Captured Islamic Jhadist I- The detention camp were the only weapons carried by guards are non lethals.

Well those are a few ideas here. I am sure that your ideas are substantial as well. So in the spirit of the coming holiday season and in the need to answer what do you do with with unemployeed former President. Feel free to add on.

RE: Obama,s plan: Living Within Our Means and Investing in the Future (Economic Growth & Deficit reducti

Iran just accused the US of 100 terrorist attacks within Iran....the Supreme Leader Khatenie.....says he has 'undenieable documents of US terrorist acts in Iran'. This in response to the US alleges of a Iranian plot to murder the Saudi Ambassador by a car bomb in the US last month.

No documents were produced. But the Supreme Leader assures us that they will be soon released.

We have to remember that Iran is the country that has some 2000 Mousavi Green Party member under trial for protesting the election. That Iran Mullah courts use Sharia Law for judging cases. And not the least, since the Iranian take over of the US embassy in the 70s, there is no diplomatic relationship between the two countries.

In other words.....it is a free for all with no international rules to government the relationship of these countries.

This also is because of the 911 Survivor families court case against Iran for 100b in payments for participating in 911. Ah yes....a real chunk of change in any one checking account. Iran by claiming that the US has conducted a terrorist campaign in Iran.....and counter sue for damages within the Mullah controlled courts. I would not be surprised if the amount of damages sought....will be 100b!

Were is the American Administration in the middle of this mess? Does it support the 911 survivor families with evidence or with Gov't expert testimony? No. Do the American administration say anything to the charges of the Supreme leader to defend past administrations? Not yet! It still apologizing to the Moslem world for 'past mistakes'! Which is kind of like admitting guilt for someone else.

Again this administration lets the American people down on the international front. Rather being advocates for the American people and past administration actions and decision. This administration wants to appease the Shia, Iran and any Moslem that has the smallest of grievance against the country.

The administration should say to the Supreme Leader.....bring it on. Show us your 'undenieable documents' to American terrorism in Iran.
Indeed let us take the charges to the Hague. Let us take the Iranian apostate case against the Christian minister to the Hague. Let us take the 230 disappaerance case of Iranian Christians to the Hague. Let us take Iranian participation in the Shia Spring movements to the Hague.

But we all know that it will not. And we all know that President Obama is a or was a practicing attrony in IL before his election. If he wanted to earn his Nobel Peace Prise, this would be a good way to begin. Because he has a election to campaign for....so these little legal issues will have to wait.

For a man that has a eloguent speaking voice....not to use it for the defense of his country...when charged in such manner....is almost a crime in itself.

RE: Obama,s plan: Living Within Our Means and Investing in the Future (Economic Growth & Deficit reducti

This is almost to sweet to post.

A review of the 984 Occupiers that were arrested in the NY City protest.....shows.......that few of them are of the 99% majority.
Most are of the 1%.

The median value of the average home of the 984 arrested......was a
value of $305,000. The median value of a American home is $184,000.
The average age of those arrested was 27 year old. Via using google imagery data base from the addresses given at the arrest.....many of the homes of the Occupiers are consider "opulent".

Hmmmmm

So what gives?

This is nothing more than a bunch of digruntled children of successful baby boomers that have decided to protest dad's business success. They are in the NYC streets to cause dad some heart ache for being a successful business man.

They graduate from HARvard or Yale or Columbia......at age 27.....and find the real world is little tougher than the college professors made out. They take their first bumps and bruises in the real world....then go back to mom and dad....to live in oppulence. While the rest of us...the real 99% make a living in the real world that they fled.

They have so little standing to speaking on the economic conditions of the country with a civil or violent protest coming from wealth...that they have never know real hardship or proverty. But they can graft into their protest.....99% against the 1%. Like they are really part of the 99%. What hypocrits.

These are nothing but young Obama supporters that used the share the wealth as a political issue to employee for the coming 2012.
The judges should throw the book at them for the gucci shoes and bags they wear and carry while saying they are the countries poor 99%. Give them some real proverty and anxouity in one of the county finest hotel/jail establishments. Let them brush their teeth in the morning with Big Buddie Bubba and Serial Killer Sally.

The jail time will do them good. They will appreciate more Mom and Dad's oppulent home. And how they got it.

95 of the 984 protestor have homes worth more than $500,000...even in this depressed housing market.

Or give them, "the option" Mom and Dad. What option is that? The boot out option. They want to sleep in the park in sleeping bags and tents.
Hey change the keys of the doors. Surprisie surprisie and wakie wakie.....no comie backie to mom and dad after you are critical to the family wealth made legally.

A generation ago...it was called 'tough love'. I call it the 2011 wakie wakie and surprisie surprisie choice of parents. The right to divorce yourself of a ungrateful child. LOL............

news.yahoo.com/nyc-arrest-records-many-occupy-wall-street-protestors-043625415.html

The article is pretty neat.....even has a slide show of the oppulent homes of the Occupiers.....LOL..................

RE: Obama,s plan: Living Within Our Means and Investing in the Future (Economic Growth & Deficit reducti

A recent survey of the new Chinese wealthy......says that near 50% of them want to immigrate to the US and Canada. That is to say that they want to immigrate to our bad health care system....to our bad schools and colleges.....to our hostile and theiving cities......to our Bible, Guns and Flag small towns......to share the wealth administration.....
and other known American ailments.



With that thought in mind......and with the BOP between China and
the US into the multi trillion dollar range. I say the Obama administration should open the door to them. Bleed China dry of her smartest and best business men and women. Her smartest and succesfull technical and academia types.

In one swoop.....the US wins the promised Chinese economic war, revitalizes its economy with massive foreign investment, gains new technologies, and has new brain power......

The reason that these multi millinaires and billionaire Chinese wish to come to the US and Canada? Something that they don't have in China.
Freedom.

RE: Obama,s plan: Living Within Our Means and Investing in the Future (Economic Growth & Deficit reducti

Just one last thought here on European multi culturalism.....and Saul Avlinsky Socialism.

It has to be a real bite to and blight to Alvinsky utopian theory advocated and his fair and just legal concept .....when the invited guests from foreign countries...attempt to kill you indiscriminately with bombs.

RE: Obama,s plan: Living Within Our Means and Investing in the Future (Economic Growth & Deficit reducti

Guess you never heard of Sadam Hussien 550 ton of uranium yellow ore that was going to be used for dirty nucs....mostly headed for Europe.
The 550 ton of yellow cake ore.....would have made about 1000 dirty nuc....that is 3 or 4 for each major European city.

But I know it was a unnecessary war.....

As for Obamacare. We don't get it untill 2014. Till then we get raising health insurance cost from the health care companies that are weeding out clients that will stay with them after the Obamacare kicks in.

Did not Obama take us into a unnessary war in the Libya thing? Ummmmm
yes, I do believe that is the case. The US gets less than 1% of its oil from Libya. Europe get a much large percent. Obama goes to Libya with 450 cruise missile at $500k per missile......that is a bit pricey for a civil war that eventually turns Libya into a Sharia Law country.

As for making a mistake and getting a second chance. Obama is in the big leagues. One dropped ball here is a big mess in the world and can cost alot of lives. Libya is a example there. The 8 months campaign to dethrone Kdaffi took 1000s of Libya civilian lives. So even you admit he has made mistakes. So? Why not play the next team? It has to be better.........and need to make its own mistakes.......

RE: Obama,s plan: Living Within Our Means and Investing in the Future (Economic Growth & Deficit reducti

Dude I am going to suggest to you.....that socialism and Alvinsky ideology are fading even in Europe. How can I say that?

Well the European debt crisis for one thing. Austerity is being sought all over the European continent. Austerity is a conservative concept.
Says we have to live within our means. You title this thread that.....but in reality.....given power in government, liberals will out spend conservative officials substantially.

But there is another reason. More fundamental.

The end of multi culturalism. Was not multi culturalism a ideologic concept of Saul Alvinsky? Umm....yes, I think so. Did not Alvinsky say do anything to please the masses? Is that not what multi culturalism is? A means to please the European masses? Sure it is.

You have massive waves of Africans and Middleasterns into Europe and the governments responded with the concepts of multi culturism to appease them. This over the last several decades. Multi culturalism is....er was....a means to accept them into society and to give them a chance in a new country. Only they did not assimilate into their new homelands. They kept their language, beliefs, former ways and lifestyles.

It did not work. Paris riots....London riots.....on and on. That is why Merkle and Sarkozy are saying multi culturalism failed. Not because
they did not make a good faith effort to make it succeed. It failed because of the hardened attitudes of the people coming into Europe. Not because Europe did not open you doors, your treasuries, and your resources to them.

Just my two cents......

RE: Obama,s plan: Living Within Our Means and Investing in the Future (Economic Growth & Deficit reducti

What would I do without my Big Mac? Wait for Obama to invite me to the White House to eat Koby steak?

RE: Obama,s plan: Living Within Our Means and Investing in the Future (Economic Growth & Deficit reducti

Clearly there is new majority forming in the country, Dude. Obama approvals are at 38%. The only thing that had held him up in the polls was the double tap of bin Laden that the SEALs did. Else he is in the low 30s. The country is committed to winning this war on terrorism.

His economic program have failed across the board. His medical program drove the price of health insurance up. His inability to halt the Iranian and NKorean nuclear programs shows a clear weakness on the
international front.

Look I want to be like Huckabee here. To say ANY President had a tough go of it for this 2008-2012 term and give him the benefit of doubt. But you have to look at how effective he has been...or ineffective. That is because he was divisive and formed a one party government.
Now he jumps into the REP nomination process. Rove just media assaulted him for being "unPresidenital".

He isolated our closes allie in the war on terror....UK. He was able to get bin Laden, alAwalki and Kdaffi. But for every radical leader we take down, 3 or more are ready to jump up and take their place. Like I have said Shia Spring.....not Arab Spring.

Read those quotes from Carter...a American liberal....academic liberals
are saying GWB had it right. Obama has kept many of his programs. I think that he (Obama) has does remarkably well on the war on terror. We have not taken a major hit since 911.

I will let you connect some dotts. To prove this. What was bin Laden code name? Geronimo, yes? What was this blogger siting to you back several years ago on General Scott 1880's campaign in the Southwest against Geronimo and Chocise?

Remember "the only time in American history, it defeated a indigious force of guerilla fighters was General Scott's defeat of Germino and Chocise" yes? We modelled our 10 year presence in Afghanistan after Scott's 1880's victory. It took 10 years for Scott to defeat Geronimo and Chocise. We have been in Afghanistan 10 years. We are ready to win.

How do you think that bin Laden got his code name? Precisely. He got it from my 2001 report on General Scott operation against Geronimo in 1880s. We fully went into this to win. We used a winning model. But to do that it was going to take American Liberals, DEM, REP, Conservative....all of America....to be on the same team. Now reread Carter's quotes.

We are not going to let you pull this country apart for the sake of some Alvinsky 5th column ideology. Even American liberals can see doing so is dangerous in these times.

This Afghanistan war is Obama's to win or lose. GWB left him with the tools to win....the stealth helo, the drone programs, the 165,000 special forces....fully knowing it was going to take 10+ years to do so. Now do you capice?

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Am reading Stephen L. Carter's ..The Violence of Peace. Carter is a Yale Academia...Black..liberal and expert on the morality of war. He is a professor of law at Yale for 30 years.

Carter gives some very interesting conclusions and thoughts on President Obama, GWB, the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. Here are a few quotes

"The man (Obama) who many consider the peace candidate in last election was transformed into a war president."

"While working on this book, I gave a talk at the Yale Club in New York City on the subject of just and unjust wars. In the audience was a veteran of Iraq, who had seen friends killed in battle. He stood up during the Q and A to tell us that he was unease about going of to war for a 'theory.' (Earlier Carter notes Obama uses the Catholic church's 'just and unjust war theory' in his Nobel Peace Prize award acceptance address).

This theory has been the basis for most modern day wars of our time. Obama used it for justification of Libya and for the surge in Afghanistan. Carter dedicates the book to this unknown soldier and his comrades. GWB used the just and unjust war theory for his second reason for the invasion of Iraq. My words

"Obama, more over, may even have adopted a rarely articulated theory of the previous Administration that holds, in the bald and tragic terms of just war theory, that it is not possible to wage a just war against the United States."

"Yet none of this is necessarily a criticism of President Obama. It maybe instead be a signal that the vehement attacks on his predecessor (GWB) were overblown. As I discussed, in various venues, the ideas presented in this book. I was surprised and a bit depressed to discover how many quite thoughtful people are so steeped in a hatred of President Bush that the merest suggest that President Obama has followed any of his policies, on any matter, is consider a insult to Obama. But in so dangerous a age, we dare not treat arguments over warfare as opportunities to indulge our partisan side."

My Lord finally a liberal that gets it!

Bubba give Carter's book a for reading on this alone!.

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Dude is just like most of Islam. He is unhappy that 'ALL of America' has taken a stand against Islamic radicalism. That is American liberals (like Obama) to American conservative (like GWB) have a common cause.

These men take a oath to defend the Constitution and the Country after being elected. They might choose different methods, strategies, tactics to do so. But object is the same.

Huckabee the other night said he did not question Obama patriotism or loyalty to the country. He might challenge him on other issue and positions. But on his core value of love for country, Huckabee did not question.

But concillatory tone with Dude here.....never get recognized. It is never a united and strong America. But one he has has help to ideology fracture.

That is OK Dude....when the new majority take office and power in 2012. We will still make room for American liberals in the country. Maybe not so much room....they might find the various city parks that they have been protesting in closed for the 2012 winter.

American REP and Tea Party canidates will be gracious in Victory. They will not run a one party government. They will allow the defeated DEM liberals....."to come back easily"....to paraquote the old a REP President Abe Lincoln.

RE: Obama,s plan: Living Within Our Means and Investing in the Future (Economic Growth & Deficit reducti

SMK is alive ...sitting in GITMO waiting for Obama and Holder to decide on a trial location. By the time, Obama and Holder decide on one....SKM will be on his death bed and can be exchanged to Libya for info on the Libyan 20000 man pads that are now loose on the weapons black market.

Sorry it was a typo on Atta. He should not have been included in the list of GWB terrorist gotchas.

But you should be asking about Musharref......because he wants to return to power in Pakistan. That is not a good thing. Trust me on this. Musharref......was the man that began the Mushadeen (latter the Taliban) and made the connections of Pakistan with North Korea via China to get the NK technology and missiles.

He placed the good Doctor Khan under house arrest after the Pakistani secret nuclear program were made public. Those were criminal charges that the good Doctor was facing for international export of nuclear technologies. Musharref protected him with the house arrest.

Leading me to question......Iran has the bin Laden boys under house arrest near Tehran.....kind of the samething yes? Funny how both Pakistan and Iran used the same method to protect parties wanted by
international authorities.

RE: Obama,s plan: Living Within Our Means and Investing in the Future (Economic Growth & Deficit reducti

I will ask CIA Director Petreaus (a possible REP canidate for political office) to stop pulling the trigger CIA Predators for you then. You know nothing about the American system of government..........LOL.........