RE: Michele Bachmann gonna LOWER GASOLINE to $2 ........

DOW Chemical just came out with a solar shingle...you want a solar, we got a solar for you.

But having China cone here and take Florida crude is different matter!
Now you got my hackles up. Time for some SEAL TEAM action on a Chinese oil rig.

RE: Michele Bachmann gonna LOWER GASOLINE to $2 ........

I thought that is what the PV valves and Catylic Converters were for on cars? Were those not DEM ordered devices that the auto industry was forced to place on car. As the US autos increased in price and the US firms lost global market share?

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I just listen to a complete history of SEAL TEAM 6 on the military channel. When will they ever learn about security needs? But anyways....

When they made SEAL TEAM 6....there were only two SEAL TEAMs in the Navy. SEAL TEAM 1 and SEAL TEAM 2. SEAL TEAM 6 was the Navies version of the Armies Delta Force. Design to take on Islamic terrorism. So they named it SEAL TEAM 6...to confuse the terrorist to think it was part of a much larger group of SEAL TEAMs. To hide it. That worked well. The White House made them house hold names after the bin Laden raid.

Today they have 10 SEAL TEAMs....each with 3 units. This all in the info from the show. They give away their entire 'Order of Battle' and tactics with they do military transperency shows. Heck, I don't need to know how many SEAL TEAMS there are. I need to know if the guys in them can do a double tap without blinking. And yes even that was in the show.

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The President attempted to go Congress to speak on the employment and economy. Majority leader Bohner locked the doors of the Congress to him. OK just a joke, but we know that is how the left will twist and play this.

The President picked a day when REP were going to be at the Reagon Center for a meeting. Hard to be at two places at one time. And no, the ghost of Reagon will not hold the podium and gavel at the REP meeting. Another joke. Am going to make one joke on each side from now.
I am taking the 'fair and balanced' approach to political joke making.

So looks like they have a agreeable and open date.

Word is slipping from White House, that the President is going to propose a new National bank...this time for making infrastrucer financing on roads, bridges, harbors and airports. In other words, they are getting feelers out on the idea. Bouncing it off the walls to see if it safe enough to talk about and has political support

While I have not really thought about it....to determine a position.
If it just a another stimulate stimulate stimulate idea....without revenues coming in. It is just a major deficit maker.

They have to start tieing thier projects to Revenue making. When you talk major infrastrure projects....that is a real trick to get right.

True story here. My county build a gorgeous toll Parkway to Disney World...they had the consultants give them feasiblity studies to ho traffick numbers and the REV made from tolls. Then floated a 120m bond for the construction. Today we have it. Only 1/3 of estimated traffic uses it and the county taxpayer is on hook for missing 80m. And we came close to losing our bond rating.

One last piece of that story? One of our county commissioner families owned about 80,000 acres of land that the parkway dissected. He did not disclose the land ownership or recluse himself from the votes. Today that land is shopping malls and housing developments.

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So will the President jump into the National Anthem battle. Or stay safely on the sideline? It is a no win for the President. There is a growing number of American waht to follow the steps of Goshen College that refuses to play the Star Spangle Banner....substituting America the Beuatiful.

Goshen, a Mennonite college...feels the the Star Spangle Banner promotes war and has a militaristic theme. So refuses join the rest of the country in the song.

Slowly I think President Obama is having the country dissolve under him. Not a revolution mind you. Just pieces and chunks of it are falling away. Kind of like a satellite break up on reentry.

Had Goshen tried this during WWI or WWII......Goshen would be looking for a new home. In the Carribean Islands. It is not like we not in military conflicts today. But they choose today as timing.

But for the President this is a lose lose. If he supports Goshen....he confirms he is anti war and anti American history. If he supports the Star Spangle Banner....he loses support from the left and young voters that wants the change.

So in making my Alinsky based prediction. He stays on the sidelines with a smiley face.

What do you say Dude? American eyes and ears are waiting? Should the country give away its historical military battle anthem? To become American the Beuatiful?

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Why do you think that Khomenie and Khatenie were both head Sharia Law jurist? Khomenie taught Sharia Law in Qum before the Shaw exiled him.
Khatenie inherited the s role from Khomenie.

Why some Mullah or Cleric with a degree in say medicine or socialology can be come Supreme Leader? They have such Cleric and Mullah in the Shia sect.

But no, the only one that get power either in the 45 man council to the Supreme leader....are all Sharia Law Jurists.

It is like saying.....the Senate has 100 in it ...and they all are license attroneys. There are lot of Attroney in the Senate and house....but it is like 45%. There are Doctors....business men....actors.....

But not in Shia or Sunni sects. Sharia Law Jurists rule. There is a frigin reason for it. They know how to use Sharia Law to scare off and kill off the political opposition. With the Cleric run courts under them, guys like Mousavi never get a chance.

But liberals support that kind of exchange in political power in this Islamic country. When you do, you do a disservice to your main liberal tentants...of justice and fairness...even to rule of law.

They been using you Dude. They know your political ideology as well as you. And they drawn liberals around their little fingers. jimmy Carter was used by Hamas Dude.

What Conservatives and Christians cannot understand..is why you cannot say no to them. And I think that comes right back the Saul Alinsky style of revolution from within. Make a happy face to the majority, no matter who the majority is. Biden tried it with the Chinese. You saw what happened there. Obama tried with the Libyan rebell over the Lockerbie bomber....how well did that work out?

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Let us give Dude a chance to answer the question. He might surprise us.

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Really? Those were Moslem love taps on the Coptic Churches in Cairo? Those were sweet nothings when the Islamist controlled the Christian Church in Baghdad and killed 56? That was nice fair play when the Taliban executed the Christian medical team in Afghanistan? I can go on here, you know it.

What would it take to prove to you that on the Islamic side of this that there is long term plan to make this into a war of Islam and Christianity? Could anything I presented prove that to you? Or are so ideologically stuck that you have lost ability to make a open minded decision?

What if I have evidence that directly implicated the Supreme Leader Khatenie of the Shia sect in a post 911 religious cerwmonies that was designed to send the 911 victims to hell? Would you call that Islam making war on Christianity?

Check out the Shia Creed and google search the term "320 feet" in it.
The distance refers to sending person to hell. Something about 320 feet to the underworld. I happen to know beyond a shadow of doubt in the 2001 thru 2002, in Qom Iran.

Shia leaders recited the Shia Creed and read the names of the 911 victim, mostly Christians and performed the Shia Creed religious ceremony to sent them to hell. That was before the Invasion of Iraq.

I would call that as act of war....both spiritual and physical of one religion on another.

This is really twisted stuff, Dude. Liberals that support the Shia sect
are on the wrong side. But would evidence to that evil use of religion do it for you? Or are you ideological stuck?

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I will do it for you then. I will run a google on "al Rathman and alQeada" to see if he was in the news or media before his death. Here is what came up in the search.

In the first 50 hits, 3 times stories on his death came up. None to anything prior.

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We are coming into the 911's 10th year anniversary here in the US.
And it is just beginning....not the war between Christianity and Islam.......but war if there is a war ....as the "politically correct" take on those that commerorating 911.

I bring the you that flap over the 911 Coloring Book. Someone to remember 911 did a 36 page Coloring book for children on the events of 911. 10 times in the book....the term 'radical Islamist' was used. Like who would be counting right?

Those politically correct would be counting. I can use 'radical Islamist' 10 times in 4 paragraphs when talking about 911. So to use it 10 times in 36 page coloring book, does not seem excessive to me. Who flew the planes into the World Trade Towers? Pidgeons?

So now we have the Great 911 Coloring Book debate as we head into the 10 year anniversary of the sad event. The political correct and liberal left does know how to pick issue spokesperson. I give them that. Knowing that 4 to 10 croud would be watching the debate intensely, to know if it is political correct to use their box of 12/24/48/64 or 128 colored cayrons on the book.

The left choose a youthful spokeswoman that was is about the size of
a 13 year old and with a child's voice. She proceeded to eviscerate those that see a broader conflict between Christianity and Islam.
The writer of the book, make the defense that the book was written solely to honor the victims on 911 and to give children a concept of the event. It had nothing really to do with Islam and Christianity. Sadly he is a gruff 50 year old man.

So who wins this debate?

But first answer the question. Who expanded it into a Christian v Islam debate? The Left did. The Politically Correct did. They see a way to dump on a 911 commeration for children that tells the story.

This nothing more than the left and politically correct attempting to control the free speech and press in regards to 911. To control the message. They don't want those 4-10 year olds know the story of 911, from anything that is not taught in Schools. Were they can really control the message. Or shown in media, were again they control the message.

But the left and politically correct are protecting your children. Keeping them from having Islamic phobia everytime they see a bearded man or turban.You say. Some of those bearded men carry Ak-47s and do need to be feared as much as the p*dophile on your neigberhood. In Iraq they used the 4 to 10 year olds as human shields in fire fights with Americans.

But the youthful spokesperson of the left, likely does not believe those stories. Or likely has even heard them. Really finding out what this conflict is about or what has happened in it. Is not the left's goal here. Had it been, they would have never brought Christianity into the Great 911 Coloring Book debate. Why? There is not a word about the Christian faith in the book. Except to say....the 911 Ground Zero Cross is much like the Christian Cross that offers hope.

And the left really hates that symbol of hope and faith in the world.
And this is the real reason they attacked the 911 Coloring book.

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Short sweet and approraite. Men of few words are deeply appreciated here.

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Okie Dokie...this should give everyone warm quivers up their pants legs.

Daryl Hannah was arrested today in a protest at the White House. Doing her version of of a 1960's anti war sit in, Hannah sat in protest of a oil pipeline that will run from Canada to US Gulf Coast. That pipeline cuts right thru the middle of the major Shale oil fields on the two countries.

But to Hannah and her environmental friends....it was defacing North America, its wildlife and the environment.

What asked to move by Secret Service, Hannah sited the 1960's favored reply...."Up yours _ _ _" . Ok just bringing back old times here. Hanna did not say that.

Rather Hannah meekly said "I hope President Obama does not cave into them." Showing political correctness during the protest. In the old days, no anti war protester ever would use the title of President.

Soon the click click of hand cuffs were places on her wrists, and Hannah went meekly to the Secret Service's paddy wagon. Why don't we have any environment protesters today with some moxie? A good 1960s anti war protester would have made the confrontation 15 minutes long with kicking and screaming. 25 if the press and camera men were there.

Rumored sitting the Oval Office, President Obama watched the unfolding events on the sidewalk. And asked one of is aids, is that the actress Darl Hannah of the movie "Clan of the Cave Bears"? The aid said yes. The President said "I really liked her in the movie, it was very realistic."

He then to turned to study the map of the Oil pipeline on his desk and ask how many jobs did you say this would bring? And when would it be shovel ready?"grin

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That is not a money issue. Obama has plenty of money for NASA as he out spent GWB 2.5 times. This is a security issue. Putin has "maybe" played Obama's NASA Shuttle cancellation with a covert operation.

Not only that. The US was launching a 1b spy satellite on a Titan 4
heavy lift vehicle. 4rth launch of this new unmanned launch system.
That just blew up after 1 minute of flight.

I just listened to the control center tape and video. The control center saw nothing wrong on screens during the prep to launch or for the 1 minute of flight. But this baby had fuel tank explosion that lite the sky. Almost like someone put something in it. Something that goes bang.

We use our spy satellite extensively in Islamic Terrorist hunting. They know that. Russia and Chinese knows that. If tehy can keep us from launching the new serise of advanced spy satellities....it going ot help extend the wars.

So right those three parties have real motives to scrub and sabotage US launches. By the way, I was wrong. The last Shuttle has already flown. The fleet has been retired. The Russian Soyus failure could not happen as a worse time.

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The grubby little hands of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and company take those same Gov't insurance benefits, earmakrs and gov't contracts. It was thier Obamacare that kept the same quality of coverage from being extended to all Americans.

And guess what? If President Obama did not like all the grubby little hands of both the DEMs and REPs scooping the money and stuffing it into their pockets......all he has to do....is veto the bill.

See him veto any bills?

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Tell us how many times his name has been the media or written up by online security firm like Stratfor if he so important. Ever since bin Laden, Obama has made a effort to only go after the small fish.

Here he has a small library of intelligence from bin Laden raid....and the best he can do is a no namers like al-rahman? Dig us up one site of al-rahman being a major player prior to his death.

See her eis how it works. The CIA and the DoD with that small library of intell....are suppose to clean house now, yes? But all they are landing is the mid level and no namers. So? They make al-Rahman a name after they kill him. Suddenly al Rahman becomes el Zharakiri number 2 and his operation manager of all the attacks.

But before his death, al rahman was a mid level operative and had not made the the back page of Startfor much less the front page.LOL......

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I have kind of talked about this in the past. That the Obama crisis government made gold and other precious metals sky rocket in price and value. But in American history this might not be the first time that a Adminstration has played with making money from gold.

Let me tell you the story of the 1933 Double Eagle $20 gold piece.

You say I never heard of a $20 Double Eagle Gold Piece. That is because they are so rare in circulation, that those are.....are valued at from $6.5m to $7.2m. And yes they get that price in auction.

So here is the story. The $20 Double Eagle was first minted in 1907 and later commission in second mintings by none other than Teddy Roosevelt. The second minting continued to 1933, when F. D. Roosevelt stopped them. And had the entire 1933 minting placed securely in a FED vault. That surprisingly had holes in it.

Soon a few $20 Double Eagle's were hitting the market. They found there ways into the very elite society of Eastern US. And into the treasuries of foreign kings.

The Roosevelts were very social. They knew every body and any body that a was a some body. Not many of these critters have been circulated. Likely less than 50. But they have been jound in the Philly jewlery store.....10....valued today at $40m. From a King estate....a single sold for $6.5m.

Now were this comes back to today.....is Obama/Holder DoJ is prosecuting the owner of the Jewlery store.....a 82 year old woman that inherited the store and found the coins in a safe box....for a return of the $40m in gold Double Eagles.

She tearfully on the stand.....says that she found the coins after
her father passed away....when she noticed a secret compartment in the store vault. She opened the compartment and found the coins.

But why is the Obama administration with gold valued at $1800 per troy ou...when they got 8325 ton of gold sitting in the FED vaults of the country. ......picking on a little old white woman for finding something that the FED government clearly lost back in 1933? Talk about cruel and unusual prosecution, there it is.

Maybe the Obama administration time would be better spent...finding how those few 1933 $20 Double Eagle escaped Fort Knox....than to pick on little 82 year year old ladies that just found a retirement gift....from their deceased father.

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Part two

Now I am not saying that there is a Obama / Putin conspiracy going on over the Soyus crash. But this about a very bad decision of the Obama administration, to end the manned Shuttle program of NASA. Placing our astronauts into risk of a Russian covert operation.

One needs to remember the Artic Sea at this point. The Russian are very opportunistic when it comes to covert operations. The Obama administration placed one in their back ward, when they cancelled the Shuttle program.

If the ISS has a tragic ending at this point. How long before NASA can get another manned program flying? With injured Public opinion and the lefts & Islamist hatred of the program. You are talking 10 or 15 years before NASA flies men again. Time enough for the Chinese and Russian to reach the moon and be headed to mars.

Putin should not be in the position to take the lives of American and foreign astronauts with his covert operation. But that is exactly what the Obama gave him the opportuntity to do. If this ends like the
Kursk sinking did. The United Srates should break off diplomatic relationship with Russia. Untill the international community conduct a totally independent investigation of the Soyus failure that clears him of involvement.

RE: Michele Bachmann gonna LOWER GASOLINE to $2 ........

Did she mention the Shale Oil finds in the country? They cover about 1/3 of the lower 48. Fully develop those shale oils in the future and keep the oil in the in....I would say $2 per gallon is about right.

RE: ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL.

Here is a few other facts.

In the two wars were Isreal took those laws..they were facing massing Moslem armies on all sides. The had all the intent to crush Isreal between them. Isreal acted preemptively to keep her self alive.

Returning Israel to her 1967 borders. Brings the Syrian army to with 26 miles of curing the country in half. Gives the Syrian army the Golden Height over looking all of Isreal.

With today advance weapons systems, Syrian rocket and artillery unit can sit on the Golden Heights and control most Isreal with rocket and artillery fire.

But this matter not to the liberals....that see such a vast injustice being done to the Palstines. Give the land back it was not Isreals. It was not the Palestines either. Because when the Jewish Nation walked across the River Jordan, the Palistine Liberal Organzation was not even a twickle in Yasser Arafat's eyes.

Today Isreal deals with two principle groups....Hamas and elFatah that came directly from PLO. The PLO was not around till 1965. Not the historic Palestines of the region.

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Who was he? We had never heard of him before the strike that killed him! Sounds to me like some middle level alQeada operative that was at the wrong place at the wrong time.

el Zharakiri and al Alwaki are the two biggies now that you want to get. And al Alwalki bomb maker. The guy with the PET explosive knowledge.

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All in the name of liberal political ideology. For that Alinsky utopia that sits out there 10, 100, 1000 years in the future.doh

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There is liberal justice and equal under the law for you!. Dude does not realize that in those REP state live millions of DEM and IND. He would strike at their social security, medicare, employment just to enact revenge on the REP.

A liberal like Dude is liberal only in name. In reality they are oppressive as a Moubark, Assad, or Qdaffi. The have no real sincere compassion for their fellow man. Dude would enforce IPAB commission set up by Obamacare on REP states. What is the IPAB (Independant Payment Advisory Board) commission?

15 Washington beaucrats, not necessarily with medical degrees appointed for 12 year terms that have control of all the countries medical resources, they have even regulation power to change Congressional laws and they report to....no one.

So see how liberals would use a operating board like IPAB? If your Government is on the wrong political side of the street....then they use IBAP to keep medical resources from your local hospital, EMS resources, and other medical resources from your community.

Liberals see it as political pay back and to the victors goes the spoils of a election campaign. You will see at as heart valve that your grandfather cannot get for his heart surgery.

REP and TEA Part are working to get IPAB section of Obamcare repealed. I hope they do before your grandfather needs to heart valve. Vote in REP and TEA Party Senator and Congressmen in 2012! They know that conservative compassion is better than socialized medicine!

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I cannot make that stuff up Dude. I might be a creative word wizard.
But even I cannot make that up.....just google it.

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Think of the phone operator trying to get the White House and President Obama on a collect call from a jail in Boston? The poor woman is going to have Secret Service all over her lines and tapping them.

Then she is going to go thru Obama Secretary and explain it all to them. Several times, all on a 10 minute jail collect call.

Then finally the President picks and there is his Uncle asking him for $1000 dollar to make bail and if ICE can halt his deportation to Kenya.

This might have been the President's 3am phone call for the night......help The Beattle's song "Help, I need Somebody' is coming to mind here.

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No lie, Dude.

The Obama administration has been able to keep it out of the media. But the story just broke.

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McCarthy is wrong, you are worng, the whole entire anti human right propoganda machine of the dang Ultra right wing GOP are wrong, and ur guys have not right in a bout any thing what so ever TT!

The whole foundation of what ever u beleive in politics, is sensless and bottomless and not true what so ever

Islamists and left Europeans are going to gether? McCarthny have probabely had a bad meal

Your GOP guys and WHAT ever monsters of the present time are on the same side as Taliban and Alqueda and what ever fenatic anti reason and anti humanity suppressor regims of the entire planet Earth mister TT!




Why is McCarthy wrong? I have given you several examples of Alinskyvite thinking and decision making with the Obama administration.

But let me give you the capper.

Remember the 8 Imans in Minneapolis were kept from boarding the plane for doing Moslem prayers in the boarding area? McCarthy had a close personal friend that was in the terminal and saw the entire thing.
She said the entire things stank of a set up.

That got McCarthy digging into the Islamic conference that these guys had just attended.

Guess who spoke at the conference? As a key note speaker? The Muslim Congressional REP .....with the 7 name changes.....REP Keith Ellison. Guess who else spoke at the conference. CAIR director did.
Both of these guys have been advocating the Moslem have been suppressed in the US since 911 and that they had had Constitutional rights taken away. blah blah blah since 911. That is what they both spoke on in the Conference.

So out of this conference walks these 8 Imans....and into the airport Terminal.....where they begin a loud Muslim knelling prayer and louding shouting "Alla Ackbar:. This according to his close friend.

So the 8 are arrested and taken off the US AIR flight. Within 24 hours they have filed a civil suit against the air line and the TSA for violating there civil and religious rights.

Getting the picture?

From that ...the civil case was settle out of court. The US Air paid a tidy sum to settle. And more importantly 35,000 TSA screeners were force to undergo 'cultural sensitivity training'.

The Obama administration made the order to force the TSA screeners to take the training on the Islamic Iman's set up to make the government look bad. When the TSA had done nothing wrong. That is how the left and Islam are working together to sabotage America.

McCarthy has other examples of how the left and Islam have joined hands in schemes to embarress, harass, and place government workers into legal limbos and jeopodary.

But we all know McCarthy is wrong. Except.....the Iman's got the idea for this from a Congressional leader...who is a member of the DEM party. So you have a disloyal American government official, that the Obama administration is doing nothing about. Why disloyal? Because the country is in war with radical elements of Islam.

The Iman's represent Islam as well. And the good DEM REP aided and abetted in a time of war to give aid via media misrepresentation to the enemy. Just like the Papanese were asking the POW of WWII to do. Only they had the courage to say no.I call that disloyalty. He took a oath to defend the country, not to set up false scheme to embarress government employees and the country. Obama and Holder are keeping him from prosecution.

To the left it is all big joke. Till you get on the battlefield in Afghinistan, were el Jasserra just ran a long media presentation on the Iman arrest and civil abuses. Then it is not a joke. That gets Americans killed.

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:-)<----- You now it is coming!

Just being fair the reader with a warning.

President Obama father brother ( or Presdient Obama uncle)...one Onynagaego Obama....was stopped for a traffic violation near Boston last week. Then was seemingly was arrested for being a illegal alien.

Can I get a chuck from anyone at the point? It gets better.

When asked what he would do with his one phone call, Onwangaego Obama said he wanted to call the White House. By saying "I think that I want to call the White House."

Chucking now, yes?

I said 'seemingly'. They have not specified the charges yet.....but the one released so far....are common for illegal alien detention.

ICE has been contacted in Mr. Obama case And at the Farmington FED district court, the ICE government attorney said that Mr. Obama (not to be confused with President Obama) had outstanding deportation order on him.

Now I know you are chucking.

His moving vehicle charges were....operating a vehicle while intoxicated, rolling a stop sign, negilent operation of a vehicle.
Making 13 points the fast way. My question is, since he was illegal, how did he get a driver's license? Obviously not in Alabama, Arizona, Florida, Oklahoma or the 20 some other state that keep driver license from aliens.

Ok now you can finish chucking.

Mr. Obama has obtained the legal service of a Mr Wong who specializes in immigration law.grin

Only in America.......

RE: ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL.

Chris, Yasser Arafat....a Moslem and Arab Nationalist.....borrowed the name of a small ancient Christian village (Palestine) to name his organization after. Do you think that might have been done on purpose?

To gain sympathy in the world from confused Christian over what the real PLO was? He could have call them....the Homeless and Impovershed Moslems of the West Bank and it would have much more accurate. Because the 1.5b Moslems in the world have failed...total failed to take care of their own few million displaced.

You all blame Isreal for this. Blame Moslems. Blame Assad of Syria. Blame the leaders of Lebanon, Jordan, and Algeria......as well.
Blame the Shia and Sunni Sect leaders for not adhering to the Koran that says you have to give alms to the poor. Blame the Saudi, they have oil wealth out the ying yang. But none of them can share rubie with them or a acre of land.

Iran is using the Isreal/Palestine conflict to place the world to the brink of a nuclear holocaust. What does Iran have to do it? They are 1000 miles away from the area. Blame Iran some to. The forced movements of 'the Palestines' has so clearly been staged to aid Iran's export of Revolutionary Islam .......

RE: ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL.

Why not explain their plight to the 1.5b Moslem that have 1/4 of all the dry land in world, and see if the Moslem countries can give them homestead? Libya comes to mind. It needs some new people after the bloodshed there.

Or Syria come to mind. Or Iran. Or even Jordan.

Look the Moslem world has made the Palestine the kicking boy of the Moslem world ever since Yasser Arafat took them on the great PLO exodus. They have been booted out of Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Algeria,
each time to have the Moslem world to place them next to Israel for continue violence and conflict.

But no, they have to have a few acres of the West Bank, near Jerasulem, along the border of Israel. What to be real Palestinians?
Give me a break. If they were real Palestinian, then do the dNA famalia test and prove it.

By the way. This big myth that the Isreal keeps them hostage? Isolated in the Gaza and West Bank. According to King Abullah of Jordan. Jordan has issue 595,000 Jordan passport to them. They are free to travel the world on those Jordan passports. Prisoner, my.......

RE: ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF ISRAEL.

The term was around since the day of Christ. I said that earlier. But as far as a organized political movement or group? When Yasser Arafat began to borrow it the 60s. Borrow you say?

Arafat was not even from the West Bank (he was born in Cairo to Palestine parent and live much of his early life Kuwait) and most of his PLO followers were Jordanian......Jordan is much larger place than just the West Bank. That is why when the POL first organized, they did not settle in the West Bank. But along the Israel/Jordan border.

Arafat did not have enough support from the ligitmate West Bankers to settle his PLO on the West Bank.

Then he ticks off the Jordan government and gets booted out of Jordan.
And the great PLO exodus begins. As they do. They collect like minded Moslems from all over the globe. Few with any heritage to the West Bank or Palestine.

But fine, you want to snurf at dNA, carbon dating, ancient writings, artifacts to say that the Palestines were there when Jew arrived after the real exodus from Egypt. And it is ligitmately their land. Enjoy the free fall.

But I would advise.....the word of God be listened to here.....when He said to the Jewish nation..."This is the land I swore to Abraham, to Issac, to Jacob, I will give it your offspring.'". Deu 34:4

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