RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

Promises, promises...we have heard promises for the last 3 years here.
How many of the them came true? Alinskyvite just spinning off the future and not addressing the reality.

Stalin did the same thing. That is what the 4 and 5 year agriculture and industrial plans were all about. The Russian were starving and in poverty and Stalin would feed them a plan. That in 4 years the agriculure/industry production would grow at 1000% per year. Pablum for for the masses, Dude...just Pablum for the masses.

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

The Libyan rebells are engaging 'remains' of the Qdaffi force in Tripoli.

But.............

No word of Qdaffi or his son. The rebells are offering a reward of 1.5m for him. We offered 27.5m for bin Laden. With Qdaffi's wealth, he can buy a small Dubia island and run a Libyan civil war from there. He can come to Hugo Chavez and get assulym for years as long as he pays the light bill and rent on the villa.

That old Qdaffi has not been caught.....has to be fustrating for Libyan rebells and American President. Both had their finger crossed that Qdaffi would surrender for his trials and hanging. Dang how some people never do what you want.

So my question is. If Qdaffi slips off to Hugoland or Dubia....does the US chase him down in these none involved countries? You talk about the being the world's policeman.....if we do that.....we are clearly are doing the beat on the walk for the globe thingee. Do you have any idea what global search and chase for Qdaffi is going to cost?

But the other part of this is. The only significant bump in approvals that the President has had....is when he did the bin Laden raid. Getting QDaffi and parties for the Hague would be another bump in the polls. So with either Dubia or Hugoland, unless Obama wants to use the SEALs again. It means that the US Taxpayer is picking up the tab to buy a Qdaffi's hand over. That is likely going a lot more than 1.5m that the Libyan rebells are offering.

We need to get the Libyan rebells to up the reward offer. Make it one super tanker filled with crude for Italy.rolling on the floor laughing Cash on the oil marine terminal barrel head on delivery and a cuffed Qdaffi in the hands of the rebells. We are downsizing and cost cutting here. I am not sure if the REP have the funds for a Qdaffi trade, especially since they were not allow to vote on a Libyan conflict.

Obama has dung himself a hole here. In 2012, if Qdaffi has not been found and ...the REP are going to be playing political commercials of Obama saying Qdaffi needs to step down and flashing images of Qdaffi, Lockerbie, the Lockerbie bomber, M113s with Libyan flags on them and Qdaffi words threatening more terrorist attacks on the west in back ground. It is political commercial with 'some bite' as they say.

A living and hiding Qdaffi is worth 4m...maybe 6m votes here in the US I figure to the REP candidate. So I suspect that the US will soon up the reward for Qdaffi. Dang we get stuck again for the tab......

On the high note. The US and West frooze an estimated 36b of Qfaffi 42b
in foreign assets. But how much he had hidden away in Libya is clueless mystery at this point. Don't expect a CBO report out anytime soon on that. No accountant in his right mind wold go to Lybia looking for it. But the Libyan rebells, reminding one of much WWI Arabs taking Damascus with Lawrence of Arabia, did loot his compound.

The west plans to use the 36b for rebuilding of Libya. doh Oh wonderful! We are back to nation building a Moslem country. 36b is a drop in the bucket here. So now Obama and company can begin to rebuild the country while Qdaffi's tribe wants to tear it all apart. As long Qdaffi is alive, that is what they intend to do. Remember Iraq did not settle down until after Sadam had been caught.

We need to look at the positive though. With the rebells in control.....we will not need launch 650K cruise missiles into the country any more. So there is positive here. Todate this has cost the US 6.6b....and the great Qdaffi chase is only beginning. If it ends after Nov of 2012....it is worth 4-6m votes to the REP. Here in the US, REP are saying run Qdaffi run.................grin

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

You simply don't get it. China gave Pakistan the weapon for the Taliban. The little arms and money the US gave to them during Russian/Afghan was...was quickly used up. Not only that the MANPADs have a service life. Everything else that they use is WARSAW pack ordanance and weapons.

Pakistan has a pipeline for it someplace inside China.
Remember it was the Pakistani intell chief that was sent to smooth thing over with the Chinese after the Hgullies terror strike. He went to make sure the pipeline was still open, is my guess.

If not technically updated, the MANPAD heat sensors go bad in time. They have been out of date for along time now. That is why you have not seen any being used bring down aircraft here or there.

When the Russian and Afghan war ended....we got out. Richard Bear testified to that in sworn Congressional hearings. When he left Pakistan for Lebanon, the US had 3 agents CIA in Pakistan. That is a normal contigent for a US embassy staff.

You don't start a group like the Taliban or alQeada with 3 CIA agents.
Today you have 100s of CIA in Pakistan. Remember after bin Laden death, the Pakistani wanted a counting of them all. That is how many that there are today.

You are just trying to pin stuff on the US and REP that they did not do. Stuff that happened 20 year has little bearing to the real world of today. The players change. The technology changes. The geo-political goals change.

Last Thought. It was the Chinese that got the world's richest Copper mine in Afghanistan recently. Copper is already becoming a precious metal. It might become a rare earth metal as well. Your President Obama let them have it, after Americans have been dieing in the country for the last 10 years. We have paid a price for some this. It should be collected. But this administration will never in a 100 years act as a collection agency.

People don't like bill collectors or the IRS. The Saul Alinsky politics would never make a liberal into a bill collector. They have to be liked by the local majority. But that is exactly why the country is broke. To many politician in Washington wanted to be liked and simply gave stuff away.

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

You like that Conrad? I had visions of how GWB was treated by Islamists, liberals and neo con Commys after 911, as I wrote it. All in and for a CS giggle of course.

---
Moving on to something a little more interesting. It has to with a developing race issue in the US. A race issue that has absolutely noting to do with today's White Americans.

To understand this you need to know some American history about the Cherokee Indian tribe. They were moved ...harshly relocated to a reservation in Oklahoma from Georgia in a winter trek that killed 4000. Some time after that, the tribe began to accept Afro American into their ranks as members of the tribe. It was done after the civil war, for reasons unclear to me.

Today 35,000 Afro American can have Cherokee Indian status...over the years some 2500 actually done have it . Some 3500 Afro American have applications into the tribe for membership.

So the first question why do Afro American apply?

As American Indians they get free health care, educational grants and other government benefits awarded to Indians.

But!

The Cherokee Tribe seeing that their nation was being.......populated by Afro Americans. That eventually they could effect the tribal Chiefs group. Just changed the Tribal Constitution to deny the applications for tribe membership from Afro Americans.

Making the Black Caucus in Congress......very up set. Many of the Black Caucus sit on the committees governing Indian affairs. Which is going to make the Cherokee tribe very upset.

Remember when the Indian lobbyist tasked the President for using "Geronimo" as the code name for bin Laden? There is always more the story. I think that they is part of it.

This one is going to be very interesting to watch.

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

The President had fled the Capitol. Leaving it to be struck by both earthquake and coming hurricane. Not since President Adams fled the White House with the approaching British, was Washington so damaged.

The Washington Monument was closed to the cracking of its high observation room. The Capitol and the Pentagon close as the 5.3 quake shook the Capitol. Were was the President the milling and disorganized crowd of government workers asked?

Vacationing were else? Was the reply.

The worker bees were without the elected leader. Who had fled the city. Did the Secret Service get advanced warning of a pending earthquake? In the President briefing warn him early to take this vacation to safety? One can only speculate!

This is the President that is micro managing all the Washington government agencies, yes? With CZARS and special agencies heads? So
when the capitol has a major earthquake, seems to me that chaos should ascend to the city

But it was back to work as normal...after last the quake shook the Capitol. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm Does that? Could that? Mean? That Washington can function without President Obama? What a thought that is.

Here the entire region was shaking and quivering. The NY Stock market had its best day in 2 weeks. Cars still drove in Washington and Richmond. The military still defended the country. Cruise missiles were still launched at Libya. Taxes were still collected and the postal service limped along.

But the President was no were to be scene as the Capitol quivered and shook, yesterday. Playing a round of Golf....reading one his books....sipping some CA wine....it was a tough day for the President.

Just maybe Washington runs better without him. Even when it is hit with earthquake and pending hurricane. Everyone In Washington wants to do their own thing anyways. Being Alinskyvite freeded worker bees from the from the rest of the country's misery.

Judging from the calm and cool response of Washington to a real crisis...yes a earthquake in my book does equate to a real crisis....
They really don't need President Obama to function. So just maybe the
President and his supporter have been blowing smoke at the country ...to how valued and needed his leadership is?

OReilly now is calling President Obama the next Jimmy Carter. It was Jimmy Carter lack of leadership that got him the distain. Washington and New York just proved on the day the earth shook and trembled....how little they need a President to function.

It is something to think about yes?

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

Before I end posting for the day. Let us just interject some US econnmic news in to the thread.

The US is now a 'foodstamp country'. 46m people in the US now collect food stamps. That is 15% of the population. A raise of 74% since the economic collapse of 2007.

In cost the food stamp program in 2010....doubled to 68b in costs.

Newt Grinrich said the 'DEM party is the party of the food stamp' a few years ago. Today the question is can the FED government sustain the raising cost of the program.

REP look at the program as a possible area of cut back, says the article. Millions will be with out food if that happens. In very fine print the Article does say both parties and GWB have supported the program and attempted to take way the stigma associated with taken food stamps.

So we continue to free fall in the tank with media misrepresentation and flawed reporting.

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

In their effort to cleanse Libya of Qdaffi ites......it seem that the rebell might have executed Qdaffi son (Khmais) and intelligence head (Sunussi).

Before you stand up and shout yeah. Two for the good guys.

There was no due process or legal process to the executions.

The good guys forgot to have a trial. Assuming that the bodies that
alJezzera have seen, are the real deal. And they were rebell executed.

Assuming that they are......can we say that the US, NATO, President Obama, Prime Minister Cameron....are all supporting a Libyan rebell regime that did pretty much the same Khomenie regime did in Iran?
With Shan of Iran family? Ah yes we can.

I know the history book gets written by the victor. But Sadam Hussien and his family got a trial.

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

Hey Dude? Who is making war in Libya at present? Is it fair to say......the old war monger Obama and his cronies of venous allies...at this point?rolling on the floor laughing

By the the unofficial cost of the Libya war to the US so far is......
6.6b........which is about 1/2 for the NASA budget for running a manned space program. My how those cruise missiles add up.......

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

If you have not figured it out.....the media...both global and US...is in the "tank" for President Obama. That is not Abram M-1 Battle Tank, that is not local tank of the gas at your gas station....but the proverbial diving tank.

Diving tanks were a big deal in 1920s and 30s in the US. They were part of the carny act, were man woman and beast (horse and rider) ascend to a great height above the tank of water. Then stepping off the edge of the platform to free fall for a few seconds prior to hitting the water surface.

The trick now was to stop your descent into tank's water before you impacted the tank's very hard bottom. The really good divers of the day, could do a 40 foot drop into as little water as 4 or 5 foot.
Oh yes in this carney's special event, many a broken neck and and fractured body emerged from the dive.

That is were the media is Barack Obama at present on the Libyan war.
Having declared a rebell victory....for the sake of Obama approval points .....without the dictator Qdaffi and son in hand....the media has is free falling into the tank.

It jumped over the edge right now the water is rising very fast for the first impact. But can the media stop its descent before hitting the bottom of the tank? All depends on fast you hit the water at and how deep the tank is.

With President Obama saying...'the Qdaffi regime is coming to a end' what happens in Qdaffi decides to become the next desert fox....with his remaining forces and launch a civil war in the country? From maybe a poor bordering country of Chad or Tunisa? Someone said....there no borders in the desert. If so this can go on, and on and on....does the President start to launch cruise missiles into Chad as Qdaffi killers?
That is right we don't target foreign government leaders. But now with the regime fallen, is fair to launch missile in a non hostile contry for a Qdaffi take down? You see were I go.

But with this civil war, both the media and the President will impact the bottom of the tank at high rate of speed. Why? They both got it wrong. Qdaffi is still functioning as a leader of his tribe and forces. Their wishful hopin for a Qdaffi end did not make it so. The same problem that GWB had with Sadam Hussien at the fall of Baghdad. Proving once again that any good mistake with worth repeating.

We don't elect them for their intelligence but we do elect them for their friendly smile and ability to kiss babies. So anyways with Tripoli taken they had to say to say something.....so now the media and the President see the water in the tank fast approaching.

The President commended the efforts of the Lyban rebells...heroic, brave, self less .....to the point of vomit. It might be nice for a few of those words to be used here for returning American forces that the TSA has possible terrorist. Or for the growing line at the unemployment office of fellow countrymen.

Dude will surely point out that Tripoli is now in Rebell hands. That it true....but if you listened to Qdaffi son.....this was big trap to mass the rebell forces.wow So Qdaffi and son can do a house cleaning.
Amazingly the rebell had and now don't have this eldest son of Qdaffi.
So what gives there? As one media reporter sited...."both sides lie to us". He at least is not free falling as fast as the rest of them.doh

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

Hey Dude...did you ever hear of tribal civil war in a Moslem country?
Historically, it is pretty common.

Pretty much like what happened in Iraq. Sunni v Shia.

Here is a prediction. Unless the rebells can get both Qdaffi and his son.......you will have tribal civil war in Libya.

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

That thank you last until the first radical Islamic cleric starts to rant in Libya.

Obama is not going to like getting such a small photo that is the same size as the others. You better ask the Libyan rebels to increase the size two fold.......if they want American aid money from Obama.

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

What? Easier to drill in Brazil than in the Gulf of Mexico? Why? Both are shallow to deep water drilling operation. Obama just gave funding for Brazilian Oil firm to go deep offshore and drill. He created jobs in Brazil. At the same time he chokes oil jobs in the US.

We know were the oil is offshore and onshore here in the US, dude. The US is most geologically mapped country in the world.

No. Obama gave funding to the Brazilian oil industry, because Brazil is pretty much a socialist country. It is safe for him to give it funding. But he if gives oil contracts to American oil men, it comes back to bite him....as they donate it to REP and conservative causes.

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

See Dude you are part to the painting of Libyan rebells as moderates.
Soon the rebells will be cleansing the street of Tripoli of Qgaddfi supporter, right? 1000s will be sent to some Evin like prison that Khonenei had in Iran.

Of they will do just what Qdaffi did. They enforce a Hajiz tax on them for protection money. If it is not paid.....off to Libyan version of Evin they go.

One dictator for another, Dude. Big revolutionary deal......yawn

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

Sadam had the 4th largest Army in the world. Qdaffi was importing African mercs to keep his regime in power. One you use boot on the grond and the other is weak enough to let the rebellion work.

You positive chane are just revoluationay Isalm expanse.

The Libyan rebells on entering Tripoli......are talking of 'cleansing the Qdaffi reigme'. Sounds pretty much like what radical Islamic cleric say of Isreal, yes? The rhetoric of the Libyan rebells and radcial Islamic clerics is the same.

Obama just aided Iran to expand its revolutionary Islam. You don't want to admit it. But that that is the case. The administration does not want to admit it. NATO does not want to admit it. The world's media does not want to admit it. But that is what really happened here.

Consider this.

Libya is a OPEC country. Now controlled by radical Moslems....do you really think EU crude prices are coming down? LOL...........the ARAB Spring has been placing more radical Moslems into positions of authority in OPEC. Do you really thing you are winning this one?
When Iran is gaining more power in OPEC?

Your European Alinskyvite logic is going to cost you big time on this.
The US will develop its shale oil supply. But Europe? Is dependendant on OPEC oil. You rationalized and twisted it, now you got it. LOL.........

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

Sadam had the 4th largest Army in the world. Qdaffi was importing African mercs to keep his regime in power. One you use boot on the grond and the other is weak enough to let the rebellion work.

You positive chane are just revoluationay Isalm expanse.

The Libyan rebells on entering Tripoli......are talking of 'cleansing the Qdaffi reigme'. Sounds pretty much like what radical Islamic cleric say of Isreal, yes? The rhetoric of the Libyan rebells and radcial Islamic clerics is the same.

Obama just aided Iran to expand its revolutionary Islam. You don't want to admit it. But that that is the case. The administration does not want to admit it. NATO does not want to admit it. The world's media does not want to admit it. But that is what really happened here.

Consider this.

Libya is a OPEC country. Now controlled by radical Moslems....do you really think EU crude prices are coming down? LOL...........the ARAB Spring has been placing more radical Moslems into positions of authority in OPEC. Do you really thing you are winning this one?
When Iran is gaining more power in OPEC?

Your European Alinskyvite logic is going to cost you big time on this.
The US will develop its shale oil supply. But Europe? Is dependendant on OPEC oil. You rationalized and twisted it, now you got it. LOL.........

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

So tell us Dude......why when the US has a shale oil industry to develop all over the country. Obama goes to Brazil and gives them 6b in gov't loans to set up the offshore Brazil oil industry and says that he looks froward to buying Brazilian crude in the future?

Yes? We are waiting for this reply with its expectant Alinskyvite logic !
doh

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

Obama said his low approval rating was because American's low opinion of Congress.rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing grin grin doh doh This is worth two belly rolls, two grins and two head slaps. One more of each and we have the three stooges doing a skit here.

Obama disconnect with mainstreet America is the cause of his low approvals. It just happens that most of Congress has a disconnect with
mainstreet America as well.

He pulled the plug on being a President of the people and decided to be Mr. President of the world. When did he do that?Coopehaggen...Nobel Peace Award...Cairo Address....Kobe Steak in the White House....Muslim Brunch in the White House.....his Ground Zero Mosque position....Healthcare....Libyan bombing

One can go on here for quiet a while. But I think you see where I go.

President has sought international fame over the wealthfare of his country. He sold vast amounts of American debt to China, making the US some Chinese proxie state. He fails to understand American exceptionalism and patriotic values.

He says that he will be judged in Nov of 2012...on if things are improving...... so with a whisk of the White House magic wan....what he has done the last three years will disappear. But I think those DoD contractors that just lost billions in long term Defense contracts are going to finish him off next summer....when they begin massive layoffs that keep his unemployment over 8.0%.

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

Totally amazing......Dude can get his leg twitching over Gdaffi's pending fall but cannot get a happy face over Sadam Hussien's fall and demise.

LOL...........

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

What did you say Obama approvals were at? The last i heard.....39%
By Nov of 2012..............................................30% or less.

Meaning?

Meaning that what ever REP emerges from the primaries for the nomination...........................is your next President.

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

The Libyans are just substitutiong one dictator for another one. Qdaffi to Shia Islam and the Supreme Leader Khatenie.

Like I said...Obama has helped to expand Iranian Revolutionary Islam....more than even Khomenie did.

And no I never said Obama was in bed with OBL.

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

I am not going to say this politely. Screw China. We should place a import tax on everything comes to the US from China. Trump says it should start at 20% ....but if China does not change her currency practices ...it should go to 40%....on everything from China.

You want those GE jobs back in the US? Place import tax on GE products made in China. Suddenly GE has a reason to reopen plants in the US and employee people here.

You want to reduce the BOP with China? Place a import tax on China goods. The price goes up and the consumer will globally more. Billions will come the FED government from the tariffs.

You want to stop selling T-Bill notes to China. Make a new class of treasury note that China does not qualify to purchase because of its human right violations.

China wants economic war fare with the US....as is has shown but this Administration is to blinded by ideology to see. We will give it to them. We will find a solution to their rare earth monopoly and steal the global market from them. We will be in the deep ocean with the Japanese mining rare earth metal from the sea bed floor.

This is a no brainer for patriotic Americans that love their country.
Most of the Tea Party are for placing a boycott on Chinese goods. That is 26m American that willing to say no to China. But Trumps idea is better We bring all of our Far east allies into a trade zone.....that will tariff China with us. So I say bring em on.....they want a little of the US.....

Don't kid yourself ....The US is the single biggest market of Chinese goods. We place a tariff on their goods......we can really hurt them.
You can have unemployeed and starving Chinese all over the country.
Because we all know how well Chinese socialism is in getting bread to poor. Please remember Russian socialism failure to feed Russians at the fall of Russia.

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

Say the UN Report that China aided Pakistan to get NKOREAN missile and nuc technologies is accurate....

What country is disrupting the regional governments and destablizing the military balances of the Central Asia region? China.

China armed NKOREA with the NUC. Now it armed Pakistan with the NUC. Then Iran eventually gets the NUC. Russia armed India with the NUC. So with all this NUC proflileration goin on.....you can sing/hum that to Elvis Preistly......a whole lot of Shakin goin on. ))

Surely the US has to think about arming its regional allies with the NUC. SKorea, Tiawan, Phillipine, Japan, India, Easter Island, Christmas Island, the Solomon Islands, ....you get the drift.

If we don't, we let reoccurring conventional attacks on SKorea to occur. We let Pakistan run amuck with TALIBAN and alQeada that can get the NUC.

This way.....if someday some Pakistani and Chinese supported alQeada smuggles in a NUC into a western city and kills bunch of people. We have ringed China and Pakistan with a nuclear detterence. An immediate NUC response from many points to their agreesion and state support of terrorism.

We know how close the Pakistani and Chinese are. You saw the Pakistani reacted after the GHugglie attack on China that killed 11.
They are sending thier top military/intell man to China to smooth thing over. Did they do that post 911? When 3000 were killed? No.

This is hard, yes. But also a possible effective detterence to nuclear terrorism.

Don't kid yourself.....after we learned bin Laden was in a compound in Abottsbad, home of the Pakistani West Point and Military Command center....we considered a saturation bombing of all 400 Taliban and
alQEada bases in Pakistan. We are very serious about defending our country. And we have every right to do so.

We ringed Russia with NUC and the cold war ended without a bang. WE can ring China, Iran and Pakistan with nuc....and maybe the War on Terrorism will end without a bang.

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

Great post Ziggy! You be safe over there!

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

Maybe you have not heard this. The UN report said China was aiding the transfer of NKorea weapon technlogy to Paksitan. Including missiles and nuclear OK?

Might it just be that all the weapon that the Taliban and alQeada use.....which are WARSAW pact designed weapons of the cold war....
just might also come from the factories of China and NKorea?

It make sense to me. If you are going to sell Pakistan the nuc, you might also include some AK-47s in the deal. As a bonus or TO START A
REGIONAL BLOODBATH IN NEIGBHORING AFGHANISTAN AFTER THE RUSSIAN WITHDRAW.

So don't blaming the Bushney anymoe. They did not plan 911. They did not make Afghanistan a harbor for terrorist. Consider that one....to be laid on Pakistan and your Chinese Communist friends.

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

See the Alinskyvite thingee.......did I just say that?........grin
....allows Obama to say to the Tea Party..."yes let us cut the budget, I promise to cut the budget and make a smaller government."

Then to liberal DEMs, he can say "we need spend more, stimulate the economy and make a bigger gov't."

Then to mid IND, he can say "we need to control spending, stimulate the economy and make jobs."

Obama has more positions than matta hari had when she did her fan dance during WWI...)))

But each one is tailored for the audience he is addressing. Here in comes the importance of the Teleprompter. No one jumps from positions like this naturally and as smoothly as he does. He is a great orator, I give him that. But even the best orators cannot jump positions like this.

But with a good writing staff picking up the the public opinion of the audience of the moment and add in the teleprompter.....you can do it.
Teleprompter keeps him on the message and the topic point of the audience.

Remember those 300 foreign policy specialist? That employeed after his election. Well it just happens that the State Department and the Commerce Department employee such foreign policy advisors as well.
So why employee 300 more? Because he doing the same on the international stage.

He will have 20 foreign policy advisor for say....China.....he needs something on the BOP......something for China consumption, something for international consumption, something for US Consumption.

But it is a mis mash and inconsistant message that he sends. The message is some broadly utopian view of a just world
that is fair and equal. But it all jumbled together. That is his foriegn policy.

But the game plan is all Saul Alinsky's.

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

Watch Dude. This is how well I can predict what Alinskyvte Obama will now do.

Iran just sentenced the two American hiker to 8 years. A pretty serve sentence for getting lost on a remote trail in a part of Iran that has no significant military facilities. But according to Iran, they were spying.

So what will Obama going to do?

He will have Hillary Clinton make a statement condemning the verdict. And the next day it is all gone and forgotten. Else he upsets the Iranian apple cart. Alinskyvites, don't want to do that.

Only two Americans are going to face 8 years in Iranian prisons like
Evin. Were what happened in GITMO is child's play.

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

You must not have read that report of UN....that said China aided Pakistan to get NKorean missile and nuclear technology to Iran. But like Alinskyvites, you will say anthing.

But let me take you back to the bin laden raid. Pakistan we now know let China see the partially destroyed stealth helo. China just got a bunch of high techie secrets.

But the question I have is this. When Obama has nearly 1000 stealth aircraft in his inventory.....why did he not breach the bin Laden compound walls with the dropping a GPS quided bombs at critical point for SEAL TEAM entry?

Instead they fly a unmanned 110m stealth helo in and use it as s diversion. How do I know?

Because 12-14 men in a helo that get splits in half and falls from 12 feet in the air with rotor blades flying in all directions and comes crashing to ground. Such a crash will hurt and injure the people abroad. And no one in SEAL TEAM 6 in the bin Laden raid was hurt or injured that night. So that helo did not have men abroad. It was flown unmanned to the compound and crashed as a diversion.

But Obama could have done that with GPS guided bombs from a stealth platform above. Instead they left a partially destroyed stealth helo behind for the Chinese to see. I know SEAL SOP, Dude. They don't leave anything behind. All that cannot be taken is destroyed unless orders from above.

Obama used the bin Laden raid to give the Chinese some of our most valued military stealth secrets. Then he and his administration made SEAL TEAM Six a house hold name. That so alQeada and the Taliban, would know who to hunt on the battlefield for a revenge attack, just like Sharia law requires.

That is how much President Obama is in bed with radical Islam and with the Chinese. That is why when you look at the photos of the situation room on the bin Laden raid. When most were happy to a successful bin Laden mission. Obama was still pensive and worried. There was still lot going on with this plan....that had not been accomplished.

That is how much he hates this country. And how desperately he want the country to fail.

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

You mean this friend of America? This man of European educatted liberalism? This man that so hated the Bush and the Conservative government of the country from 2001-2008 that even today he talks of Busneys.......might have ulterior motives?

Nah, I would never think that our Dude. Would have ulterior motives. Untill he goes giving Taiwan to the Chinese. Slapping Putin on the back for invading Georgia in 2008. Till he cannot see Iran expanding regional infleunce and revolutionary Islam by the Arab Spring.

Then I begin to question if Dude is a friend to America.....or the world for that matter.grin

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

97% of the CS poll nearing 700 voters do not believe what you are dishing out, Dude. That to me, that is a total lost of creditability. That is exactly why the Obama approvals have fallen from 70% to 39% in his three year of office.

People simply don't believe him or his administration. That is a political confidence crisis. S and P got it right. People want to. They want to to think the best of the man and his administration. But Saul Alinsky knew that, when he wrote his manifesto on revolutionary change.

That is why Alinskyite allow public opinion to form and then grab the position. Just like Obama did with health care. Most in the country knew we had problems with health care in 2008. Along comes canidate Obama to address it with 210 times ideologue filled rhetoric in his campaign for the Presidency.

But does Obama give us a Constitutional solution to the health care problems? No. He gives us a 3000 page Alinsky document that alters 1/6 th of the country economy. 3000 pages that no one has time to read or evaluate prior to Congressional votes.

The health care debate of 2009 proved to what extend Obama and his liberal ideologue has lost the confidence of the people. When the 2010 rolled around, DEM officials were looking for new employment across most of the country in droves.

Obama is a not problem solver.....he is a problem maker. Or another way to say this....Obama is not a solution. He is part of the problem.

RE: America will get back on track even it still takes time! Support Obama to win again in 2012!

It is a suggestion so right on.....with China having a carrier killer cruise missile and can keep our 7th fleet from aiding in the defense of
Tiawan. Or South Korea......China and NKorea have used the nuc and military advancement to change the balance of power in the region.

The only thing that is going to deterrance back into play....is South Korea and Tiawan having the nuc. Everyone in the region knows the Obama administration would never go to war with China. That China that own all the US debt that Obama has sold them.

Obama is not only in bed with Khatenie and Ahamenjada of Iran. He is bin ed with China and NKorea. That is why the White House did not beep with the Chinese assualted the Hoyas BB team and Biden got a empty to room to talk to.

And this little nugget in. Obama has failed another American financial insitution. Little investors in the stock market are being recommended to liquidate their holdings and find safer investment in Treasuries (yeah right) and cash (inflation remember). Financial experts are recommending to small investor that they sell off 30% of their stock holding. Small investor=elderly retired.

Obama has sold out and destroy the retirement of eldery Americans once again. All for his wealth redistribution utopia vision from Alinsky. How screwed up is that? Stealing from the elderly to pay for a ideologue dream.

By they way.....the Great Stock market crash of 1932......was begun when the little investors lost market confidence and fled the market.
Triggering off the Great Depression. This blogger several days ago....uttered those infamous words that were never going to happen...according to the President and his economic team.

"Double Dip Recession."

McCarthy was talking about it back in 2010.....all because Obama, liberals and Islam have sabotage America.

This is a list of forum posts created by ttom500.

We use cookies to ensure that you have the best experience possible on our website. Read Our Privacy Policy Here