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for Hugz!!

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You are explaining yourself very well Onegoodguy!!! Doesn't mean I agree with you!!!

You see I don't agree that there is a single universal standard for morality, because what constitutes morality in one part of the world does not necesseraly apply in another part of the world for varied reasons ...

The question is not "are governments moral" it is "Do the actions of the people who run the governments accross the world act along the lines of ONE universal standard for morality? The answer at the moment is a resounding NO!!!!

In my opinion, nor the individuals accross the world nor the people who represent goverments or institutions accross the world act according to the one universal standard for morality. Because none has been recognised as being so ... Everyone thinks they're right and points the finger!!

I know that currently different "rules" apply but that is my whole point. Should different rules apply?

The intention is there in essence ... everyone wants what is best for themselves, their loved ones, their people etc ...

But what constitutes "best" IE good and what constitutes bad IE evil? Is the world in the state it is today because so many are confused about that issue. Sooooooooooooo many believe that good hinges around power and money!!!!????

RE: “Shopping list” vs 30 seconds

Why should it be necessary to say that?
Shouldn't it be understood?

I have this theory that
- by saying what we don't want we attract it ...
- by saying what we do want we attract it ...

Makes sense to concentrate on the positive

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Well he (Thomas Hobbes) sure isn't invited to my party!!!

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But for most people "the government" means "the people in the government". You're argueing about semantics!!!!

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Doesn't entirely make sense no sorry ...

You see a car is a material object so the person behind the wheel is reponsible for the car ...

A government is an abstract human created name ... although it still has people in charge of it like the car ...

It is possible that a car may harm someone in spite of the due diligence of the driver, if something goes wrong mechanically and it becomes uncontrollable ...

It is however, impossible for a govermnent to harm someone unless SOMEBODY makes a decision then supervises it being carried out ...

RE: love in the club?

Bun in the oven?

RE: Cheesiest pick up lines

I just had the funniest one ever!!!!!!!!!!


"You're such a hunk!"













I swear I don't do weight training or anything!!!

RE: Dusty Rose is still here and with a new bundle of joy!!

Wow!!! DustyRose!!!

Many congratualtions in order!!!!


Congratulations on your new baby boy. Well done both of you!!!! Welcome to this world baby boy!!!

Congratulations on your engagement!!!!

Also congrats on your loss of weight!!!

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Hahaha! Can't be done is not in my dictionary!!!

I have infinate faith in the good within humankind ...

There are more and more people becoming aware that socities cannot function any longer the way have been ...

More and more people are ready for "something else" ...

In my mind it's not about "can't" but rather about "when"

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Hiya ginger!!!

I understand what you are saying. The point was to actually have a starting point "universal unit of morality" in the first place not whether everyone would abide by it. Because at the moment there isn't one ...

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Hiya Onegoodguy!!

Bit puzzled by your statement that governments, societies and corporations ARE NOT people!!! It must be why it is so easy for them to point the finger and blame someone else!!!!

Truth is ... they ARE people!!!! Because "they" are not robots, therefore they must be people!! They might be a group of people and might hide behind a sreen (a bit like the wizard of Oz) but it is the umans bhind the screens that push the buttons!!

Therefore in my view the concept of a unit of morality would apply to ALL

RE: love in the club?

In UK slang to be "in the club" means to be pregnant!!!

RE: Coordinated effort....

First of all you should look very serious and say to everyone you meet : "I need to ask you a question. Please answer truthfuly it's really important to me. Then pause and look tortured and finally ask >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>










"Does my head look fat in this?"

OR you could


Tell them that you were at a party looking out the window when this guy came and stood by you. He said: You see this window here? Well, the wind does strange things outside this window. If you jump out you'll fall only about 20 - 30 feet before an updraft catches you and you're pushed back up."

"No way, that's impossible", you reply.

"Not at all, take a look", the other man replies and he opens the window, climbs up on the sill, and falls out. He drops 10... 20... feet, comes to a stop, and whoosh! He comes right back up and floats back in through the window.

"See, it's fun! You should try it", he says.

"Try it, I don't even believe I saw it!", you exclaim.

"It's easy. Watch, I'll do it again". And with that, he falls out the window again. He drops 10... 20... feet.
Once again, he comes to a stop, and whoosh! He sails right back up and floats safely through the window.

"Give it a try, it's a blast," he says.

"Well, what the heck, it does look like fun. I believe I will give it a try", you say. You climb up on the window sill, and proceed to fall out the window. You fall 10... 20... 30... feet, and splat! You land in the swimming pool bashing your head against the side!

After watching you climb out in a pluttering daze, the other guy casually closes the window and heads back to the bar. As he
sits down and orders another drink. His friend behind the bar gives him his drink and says, "You know, Superman, you're a real jerk when you're drunk!"

RE: Cheesiest pick up lines

I have deliberately lost HER phone number!! Can I have yours?

Might work better!!!

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First of all Dio and Ambrose I really enjoyed reading your thoughts on this subject ... Great to see you pretty much using different words to arrive to a similar idea ...

Riya my blossom!!! Welcome to the thread!!!

May I say that just because something doesn't seem possible at the moment, it means not that it won't be/can't be ...

The very fact of having a univeral unit of morality would preclude "the laying down of "moral codes" for power or dictation ... The very fact that the words codes, power and dictation are used in the same sentence as moral voids the word moral within that sentense because
- codes of behaviour are prescriptive and usually to do with control
- the use of power to uphold prescriptive codes is to do with control
- the use of a dictatorial system is to do with control

None of the above has to do with what is inherently good and 2 of them at least have nothing to do with the welfare of the people spiritually or otherwise

I quite like Ambrose's contribution to what would constitute a measure of morality
Also what StreesFree wrote about unconditional love and spirituality
What you are saying Riya pretty muchh fits with the 2 above!!!

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Cheers!! You (and everyone from over the pond) have a great day!!!

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Yeah! Hugz! Loads of great relevant post including yours !!!

I'm gonna be going to bed soon but will have a look in the morning!!!

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I'm with you on that one ambrose!!!

I was being silly coz you said something like ... Let's say I bomb a city ....

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Kind of ... it was "the thought police" in his book 1984!!!

It's not about having a moral police anyway ... it's about universal unity linked to universal consciousness also ...

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Thank you Ambrose that is what it's about!!!

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So lets get that mind reasoning!!! Are you a man with a plan for universal unification?

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Now Ambrose ... which city did you have in mind?

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My point is that what constitutes right or wrong has not been agreed upon. Although we all know that being moral is adhering to good and being bad is adhering to evil. Many nations (or even individuals) are pointing the finger but do they have the vision to see the truth? Or the courage to act upon it?

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I get what you are saying but the way you phrased in you first post made it sound like some people in power throwing their weight around and making people conform to THEIR "type of morality" . That's what we have now. Only the nations haven't agreed between themselves or with the people ...

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An international love in would be a good start!!!

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Great post Ambrose!!!

"So what I'd suggest as a basic Moral Unti would be something along the lines: An act is immoral if harms others AND those committing or supporting the action are not willing to take personal responsiblity for their results of their actions, and cannot offer the most rigorous arguments/evidence for that act"

that's a bloody good start for a definition!!! what would taking responsibility for their actions intail?

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Doomed?

Must what constitutes morality and power and obedience be linked?

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Enjoy your day!! It's more like bed time here!!

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Amen Ship!!

Oooops! Sorry guys!! I forgot I said no religion!!