But if you take in reverse from the big worldwide picture back to family size lets say ... isn't that like the kids choosing for themselves what constitutes good or bad, then hoping it filters up to the top IE the parents ... Shouldn't it be the other way round?
Shouldn't the example be set by those "that have the responsibility"
trouble is no one had agreed yet on what contitutes bad and what constitutes good!! Although everyone has their own idea about what it could be!!! and this varies even more from nation to nation!
Yes, individuals will still have the right to choose their own morals ... But what about having a basic that is the same in every nation. What about in the bigger picture ... the world wide picture in between nations?
That is precisely what this thread is about. Pointing the finger and no one being accountable for anything. Going from the smallest of things between humans of same street, town nation, to the hugest one in between nations.
It doesn't matter whether you are a blood mother or a step-mother. The reposibility with raising is the same.
It's not about mommy magic Princess. That was not what you or I were talking about. But because were to busy getting mad at one another's comments neither of us bothered to explain what we meant!!
My comment to you about not having had the xperience of raising children was meant to illustrate that until we are involved with it, we don't truely know how things will pan out. In spite of all the love advice and support we give our children we don't know what we are going to be faced with nor do we know how we will react to certain things, although we know how we would like to think we would react.
Some kids go by their parents morals and values, some kids rebel against them, some kids are a bit of a happy medium between the 2. We can never know!!
Princess glad the tone of your postings has changed to sharing your opinions without sounding so agressive.
I don't think it's about balls (well not after anyway!) I agree that the fact that the welfare system helps teenage mother does encourage them to be LESS careful.
I know what you mean about growing up and the worse thing would be to get pregnant. In spite of that (and I am older than you so it goes even further back). I still had one very good friend of mine get pregnant. She was 16 at the time and she had just lost her 5 year old sister to a brain hemorage. Fortunately she had both her parents support. It radically changed her life. It happens.
I agree that teenage mothers suffer greatly. Absolutely! If their parents are around to help that is great because they need the emotional support.
I don't fully agree with your statement about the standards people have for their children having plummeted. I think no one wishes for their teenage kids to become parents. But now when it happens, they deal with it openly. Teenage mums have always existed. In the old days they used to force teenage Mums to live in Mental hopitals and take their baby away for adoption. Or They used to force the girls to go into a "place for teenage mums" till baby was born then again take baby away for adoption. That's if they were lucky (being sarcky) because if they weren't, they were forced to go somewhere where some backstreet abortiobist would butcher them. The guys in those days would always got away scott free!!! There is no way of knowing how many people are walking around who had to experience such stuff because it was never spoken about. I know one such person. Reason she talks about it is because she eventually married the father of the child she was froced to give away for adoption. Otherwise it would remain a shameful secret she could share with no one. No one outside the family knows though!
Being nice and charming is not about saying that you encourage young girls to be teenage Mums. It's about not sounding so vitriolic towards those that have made that mistake and their parents.
Had you made this post earlier, everyone would have understood where you were coming from, me included.
And of course you know this because you have brought up several kids and know exactely how to be responsible for every single thing that your children have done while they were out with their friends? Am i right?
What other dating/singles site do we know about where it's ok to chat in the forums and keep in touch with the friends made here after not being single anymore?
Still coming here feels like going to the local ...
I had gone with a friend to visit another friend of hers I had never met before ...
We were just about to leave my friend's friend house and were standing in the entrance hall when the most beautiful guy I had seen in my life started walking (actually more like gliding) down the stair ... Him and me both stood transfixed staring at one another ... time stood still ... everything and everyone receeded into nothingness apart from us standing there for a timeless amount of time ... We eventually shook ourselves out of it while my friend and her friend stared at us with their jaws hanging before dissolving into a fit of giggles. Nothing was said ... but we later started "going out" together as boyfriend and girfriend as he turned out to be the brother of the friend we visited ...
Hahahaha! Up on the mountains mostly don't wear ANYTHING to slop around the house!!!!
As to commando ... has to be when the mood takes me ... there are all sorts of underwear types and shapes ... some pretty minimal for wearing under clingy clothes ... so for me it's not related to outerwear ... it related to what I feel like when I get dressed ...
I have a friend in the UK who has been separated for years and both had continued with their own seperate lives ...
Several years later one of them wanted to get divorced ...
The courts took into account EVERYTHING
What she owned What he owned Her pension His pension Her savings His savings How much she earned How much he earned
then shared it right down the middle SEVERAL YEARS AFYER THEY WERE SEPARATED
Also remember that legally if not just the divorce but also the financial situation has not been legally sorted through a consent order (in the UK) then either can claim from the other if they were to receive a legacy from family or win the lottery etc ...
Most of the ways that Humans have ...
I strongly believe in that!!More contributions welcome!!!