RE: Obama Care summed up!

The worse part about Obamacare is that it is just another underfunded defined benefit program. It "promises" coverage, and commits to expenditures, but is already short of funding before even kicking in.

The bill relies on dubious future “savings,” secured by unaccountable appointed committees, and chosen by not yet elected politicians. It contains laughably bogus utilization and cost projections, combined with equally fantastic tax revenue promises, which shamefully underestimate the overall cost of the legislation.

Social Security took 80 years to go broke, Medicare took 50. I suspect Obamacare will take less than 5.

RE: Obama Care summed up!

Two years ago, Obama told us that Obamacare would not cost a penny over $1 trillion ($900 billion to be precise), and that it would not add ‘one dime’ to the debt.

He was off by about 1700%. laugh (seriously)

It turns out that the true long-term funding gap is a mind-boggling $17 trillion, just a tad more than the original sub $1 trillion forecast. This latest revelation means that total underfunded US welfare liabilities: Medicare, Medicaid and social security now amount to $99 trillion.

RE: Obama Care summed up!

Obamacare is most definitely underfunded which is why they are borrowing from Peter to pay Paul. And thousands of it's regulations have not even been written yet, so you can bet it's going to have very slim coverages when it's all said and done.

People do not NEED laser eye surgery. They WANT laser eye surgery. We have lived for centuries without laser eye surgery. You can bet your bottom dollar Obamacare won't offer it,

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

Looks like Romney's election poll numbers remained at 47%, but Obama's has now dropped to 45%

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RE: Obama Care summed up!

Well thank you for clarifying that. I had no idea a European country would be located in Europe. laugh doh laugh

The point I am making is that the Obamacare is NOT what they have in Europe, Canada, Somali or East Bumfooey. It is a wholly different animal and it is woefully underfunded, woefully incomplete, and because of that it will ruin our present system.

RE: Obama Care summed up!

Ok... but how are the doctors treated under the Swiss plan? Do they have outrageous malpractice insurance that they have to provide for themselves? And who pays for their continuing education requirements? What are their university costs? Is there reimbursement rate set below their cost to operate?

These are just a handful of problems that Obamacare neglected to consider. Well, they did cut $500 billion in Medicare reimbursements to doctors, but they did nothing to lower their personal costs. The end result is they will be forced to avoid Medicare patients entirely.

RE: Hey man, the return ticket should be in...

comfort

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RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

Yes. They are having to refresh their talking points since the current ones aren't working. grin

RE: Ladies..If you are here just for the forums...

I say so in my profile, but it doesn't seem to matter. blues

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

I don't know where Dude went off to. He just said he would be away for few days. dunno

It is too close to call. I suspect Obama's numbers will drop today after his handling of the Middle East protests, but it's a crazy world so who knows?

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

Happy Monday, peeps. wave

It looks like no matter how hard the media trys to spin things, Obama has lost his convetion bounce and Romney still holds a marginal lead. Today's poll will not be posted until after 9:30, but here are the results as of yesterday...

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows Mitt Romney attracting support from 47% of voters nationwide, while President Obama earns 46% of the vote. Three percent (3%) prefer some other candidate, and four percent (4%) are undecided.

RE: Obama Care summed up!

The problem is that Obamacare doesn't even remotely resemble other national health care plans. We aren't going to be getting free lasik or free anything. The plan is awful.

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

Ewww! Thanks for the link. bouquet Interesting publication...I think I'm going to add this one to my list of daily reading.

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RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

Hey Monte. wave

Where in the world did you come up with that? It's the first I've heard, but it doesn't surprise me.

Wouldn't it be lovely to find that we released this nutter back into an unsuspecting society. sigh

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

Well I thought it was a good idea at the time, until I saw it being misused so badly. laugh I have decided to just ban myself and spare the poor fella any more work. laugh

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

I just noticed that, too. thumbs down

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

Indeed. It's like we have a new hit television series..."Ineptitude on Parade." doh

RE: Why Billionaires are bankrolling Mitt Romney

To be blunt, there are many, MANY Americans who clearly believe that Obama is an abject failure. I'm sure billionaires feel much the same as we little peons. Their interest in electing another does not come close to meaning that there is some grand conspiracy by the rich.

Rich and poor alike can see Obama for what he is - and if they care about this country they want to see him out of office.

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

They are probably roasting the Colonel as we speak. sigh


Morning O-man! wave

Off to the gym here. sheep

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

Darn it! It says the video is no longer available. frustrated

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

And I know just who that person is. very mad

I was just saying on the other thread that it would be interesting to see what happened if all of us (US, German, Britian...) completely withdrew from there and stopped communicating with them entirely. Take all the money, the equipment and the staff out and park it in Israel.

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

A British newspaper is quoting U.S. diplomatic sources as saying that the State Department had "credible information" two days before the attacks in Egypt and Libya occurred. Two days! What is the Obama administration saying? They are denying any such intelligence existed.

According to The Independent, senior diplomatic sources said that "the US State Department had credible information 48 hours before mobs charged the consulate in Benghazi, and the embassy in Cairo, that American missions may be targeted, but no warnings were given for diplomats to go on high alert and 'lockdown', under which movement is severely restricted."



Is Obama even working anymore, or just off campaigning and raising money?

RE: Would you kiss the person above you or pass? Part 4

No lips but would happily handshake

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

Have you lost your last marble? wow transport wow

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

Sorry. I disagree on all counts. thumbs down

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

Interesting link. I read this...

"This administration is collaborating with radical Islam, and that in fact, the commander in chief is a Muslim himself. Don’t believe me, ask the former Egyptian Foreign Minister."

And I thought to myself...at last someone has the chops to come out and say it.

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

Yep. No offense to Dude, but there's something rotten in Denmark.
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RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

Yeah. The numbers don't quite add up, do they?
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RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

Middle East expert Walid Phares tells Newsmax.TV that “the war with the jihadists is on” and that “the whole world is a battlefield” as a result.

“The administration needs to explain to the American public that the war with the Jihadists is on, even if we withdraw from Iraq, even if we withdraw from Afghanistan,” Phares tells Newsmax in an exclusive interview. “The jihadists are not withdrawing. So it is a unilateral withdrawal from the confrontation on behalf of the Obama administration.

“And we do need to, if not expect, but at least project, that as long as this enemy – these terrorists – have any intention of harming us, the whole world is a battlefield, not just Iraq and Afghanistan.

“They hit in Libya. They could hit in any other place,” he added. “So the American public should be prepared, better prepared, by its administration.”

Phares, an adviser to Congress on terrorism, called the attack in Libya that killed U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans “an absolute act of terrorism with another layer of war crime.

“This is an attack against our diplomats in a country with which we’ve had good relations since the rebels took over and took down Gadhafi.

“But this is also indicative on the strategic level,” he added. “President Obama said that after bin Laden, al-Qaida is going down – and this is evidence that al-Qaida is spreading in areas where it was not operational, such as Libya and, of course, Somalia, Northern Mali, Syria, Iraq.”

RE: Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?

You mean Pro-liberal, don't you dude? Let me assure you they are not one in the same. scold

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