RE: Do you feel it is ok for your mate to have lunch with an old bf / gf?

but isn't there a saying which goes "don't play with fire, if you don't want to get burnt !"wine

RE: Who here is a VIRGO?

i thought it was 39 to 40 weeks ! isn't it?

RE: Who here is a VIRGO?

well, with mine, christmas came early rolling on the floor laughing
did do the math.

RE: Who here is a VIRGO?

Understandable. But you are not alone - a big chunk of the rest of the world is with you on that one handshake

now back to the OP.
Isn't Virgo one of the best star signs you can have rolling on the floor laughing

RE: Who here is a VIRGO?

it's an international sad memory day Camera. 9/11 !

RE: Who here is a VIRGO?

well i think this statement fits me like a glove banana


my b/d ? 11th september - but it brings a specific very sad memory now sad flower

RE: Happy New Year 2009 Thread

Hello everybody..

Bon fin Anno but also
wishing you all a
HAPPY, HEALTHY and PROSPEROUS 2009 !

R.
kiss wine

RE: I throw out today

hi miro !
you know, i thought and thought about this and at the moment i don't think i have anything to throw out. thank you for making me realise this teddybear

RE: Well done Lewis

brilliant brilliant cliffhanger of a race. very happy for hamilton.
i personally believe he should have been crowned king last year but that exeprience matured him even more.

hi gussi.
vettel is toro rosso with ferrari engines . . . don't think ferrari (the supplier) would have been too happy if vettel did not run his race.

anyhow, the rain helped in the equation, and it's alls well that ends well. beer

RE: Is it better to be loved or to love ???? :)

thanks for the chat. time for formula1 now.
may you all be hit with whatever you're looking for lips laugh

RE: Is it better to be loved or to love ???? :)

cannot agree 100% with you on this one.
love hits you (that's why it is depicted with a bow and arrowed cupid). heart wings

imo, looking for a particular kind of person in a particular way - when / if found - and if reciprocated, then these two have to work towards falling in love with each other. initially it's mutual respect, a lot of attraction and working together to make the relationship work by adding the 'falling in love' part teddybear

RE: Is it better to be loved or to love ???? :)

hi giuri,
i think we are on the same plane but looking at it from different angles. i agree with your post if i was seeing things from your angle, but from where i stand, i reiterate that really 'falling in love' with somebody puts one in a position where they probably cannot rationalise the situation and therefore there is no choice to be made.
don't we know cases where people in a decent and happy marriage/relationship still fall for a third person with the inevitable disastrous (for all concerned) result . . . .
cheers

RE: Is it better to be loved or to love ???? :)

but dear ginger,
my point is that - in matters of the heart, usually one cannot rationalise. i think that's why the expression is 'you fall in love'.
fall = it cannot be helped no ? teddybear

RE: Is it better to be loved or to love ???? :)

hi sommer.
as well as can be expected thank you, although given a beautiful sunday afternoon here in malta, yet sitting at a keyboard - not so sure of anything anymore i guess. confused

hi ginger.
re choices ... it's matter of the heart isn't it. and really and truly who can control the emotions of the heart. just as an example, how many wo/men actually do stay in a bad relationship and cover up for the autrocities they suffer from their partner. food for thought . . .
hug

RE: Is it better to be loved or to love ???? :)

hello everybody.
interesting question.
imo, ideally a balanced situation, but since the original OP requested either the one or the other, imo it is better to love than be loved. real loving is UNSELFISH, so technically by really loving someone, you must not expect their loving you in return. ofcourse (again) the ideal is love and be loved with the same intensity - but in reality how many individuals here can think of anybody in rl in this intensive loving and reciprocated situation. probably less the number of fingers on one hand.
which, while not wanting to hijack this thread, would lead me to ask the other million dollar question : what is better - to have loved and lost or to never have loved at all. (this was a subject which was started in a thread some time back but ended up witty witty and no real conclusions.)

love you all cheers

RE: Something I have been wanting to post for a long time, so here it is

good evening all.
usually am in the eu forums but came across this brillian thread from daniel (thank you OP). read it through and can feel the genuine goodness of the posters.
i believe that irrespective of the religious beliefs of any individual, all wo/man are good. circumstances and sometimes upbringing mould each individual into what s/he becomes.
all religions preach goodness. BUT religion can be twarted and used wrongly. don't do unto others as you wouldn't want others to do unto you is imo a basis to keep all on the straight and narrow. if only all mankind can remember this and practice it.
just my 2 bits.

peace hug

it's a two cow story .

evening all.
just received this email and it did raise a smile. thought i'll share it.

SOCIALISM
You have 2 cows.
You give one to your neighbour.

COMMUNISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both and gives you some milk.

FASCISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both and sells you some milk.

NAZISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both and shoots you.

BUREAUCRATISM
You have 2 cows.
The State takes both, shoots one, milks the other, and then throws the milk away

TRADITIONAL CAPITALISM
You have two cows.
You sell one and buy a bull.
Your herd multiplies, and the economy grows.
You sell them and retire on the income.

SURREALISM
You have two giraffes.
The government requires you to take harmonica lessons

AN AMERICAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You sell one, and force the other to produce the milk of four cows.
Later, you hire a consultant to analyse why the cow has dropped dead.

ENRON VENTURE CAPITALISM
You have two cows.
You sell three of them to your publicly listed company, using letters of credit opened by your brother-in-law at the bank, then execute a debt/equity swap with an associated general offer so that you get all four cows back, with a tax exemption for five cows.
The milk rights of the six cows are transferred via an intermediary to a Cayman Island Company secretly owned by the majority shareholder who sells the rights to all seven cows back to your listed company.
The annual report says the company owns eight cows, with an option on one more.
You sell one cow to buy a new president of the United States, leaving you with nine cows.
No balance sheet provided with the release.
The public then buys your bull.

THE FRENCH CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You go on strike, organise a riot, and block the roads, because you want three cows.

A JAPANESE CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You redesign them so they are one-tenth the size of an ordinary cow and produce twenty times the milk.
You then create a clever cow cartoon image called 'Cowkimon' and market it worldwide.

AN ITALIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows, but you don't know where they are.
You decide to have lunch.

A RUSSIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You count them and learn you have five cows.
You count them again and learn you have 42 cows.
You count them again and learn you have 2 cows.
You stop counting cows and open another bottle of vodka.

A SWISS CORPORATION
You have 5000 cows.
None of them belong to you.
You charge the owners for storing them.

A CHINESE CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You have 300 people milking them.
You claim that you have full employment, and high bovine productivity.
You arrest the newsman who reported the real situation.

AN INDIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You worship them.

A GERMAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You re-engineer them so they live for 100 years, eat once a month, and milk themselves.

A BRITISH CORPORATION
You have two cows.
Both have mad cow disease

AN IRAQI CORPORATION
Everyone thinks you have lots of cows.
You tell them that you have none.
No-one believes you, so they bomb the s**t out of you and invade your country.
You still have no cows, but at least now you are part of Democracy....

AN AUSTRALIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
Business seems pretty good.
You close the office and go for a few beers to celebrate.

A NEW ZEALAND CORPORATION
You have two cows.
The one on the left looks very attractive

rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

no disrespect to any nation or people intended cheers

a serious conversation . . . .

hi man,
i agree.

but, this is rich. part of a writeup by jill lawless (Assopciated Press)

quote
Few believers appeared offended by the campaign, although most doubted it would work.

"I think people will ask themselves, 'On what basis can they make that statement?" said Inayat Bunglawala of the Muslim Council of Britain. "So it will get people thinking, so in that sense it can only be good."

The Rev. Jenny Ellis, spirituality and discipleship officer for the Methodist Church, welcomed the ads.

"This campaign will be a good thing if it gets people to engage with the deepest questions of life," she said.

The religious think tank Theos said it had donated $82 to the campaign, on the grounds that the ads were so bad they would probably attract people to religion.

"It tells people to 'stop worrying,' which is hardly going to be a great comfort for those who are concerned about losing jobs or homes in the recession," said Theos director Paul Woolley.

"Stunts like this demonstrate how militant atheists are often great adverts for Christianity."
unquote

a serious conversation . . . .



hi smoky.
very good post and for which i thank you for posting itcheers

a serious conversation . . . .

well put jb thumbs up

i also believe that all humans are born with only 'good' inside them. obviously circumstances, surroundings and examples makes each individual what he (becomes) is.

also 'heaven' and 'hell' ( however each indiviual wants to depict / imagine them ) exist on this earth !

now let's have a glass of wine wine

a serious conversation . . . .

hi jb.,
i respect your opinions and beliefs.
my last immediate post was not quoting the bible . . in fact i said 'don't do unto others ....' etc. it reflects a generic term to being a good neighbour.
additionally, i never assumes, or am assuming that quote - people who live without religion are incapable of having moralsm - unquote.

it is a never ending subject really isn't it ? and therefore not a bad conversational topic hug

a serious conversation . . . .

i agree that there shouldn't have been any hell fire adverts in the first place, as much as this atheist advert in reply, but what would you tell your children :
there is probably no God so go and enjoy life ?

IMO all parents point out to their offsprings what is right and what is wrong, and 'don't do unto others as you would want others not to do unto you' - and that is basically the biggest chunk of most religions.

additionally, in times of sickness and pain, where would one's thoughts revert to . . .

a serious conversation . . . .

i knew touching 'religion' as a subject could be a hot issue. this was meant to start a conversion between people with different beliefs. It was not meant to be judgemental.

my point of view is the fact that all (well most) religions point to a god - and that God is good.
Atheism points to no god.

The ad says there probably is no God. It also implies that there probably is. And do you really think it does make people feel better ?

a serious conversation . . . .

good thimorning / afternoon all you people out there !

s titbit appeared in todays internet's version of a local newspaper :



christianity is based on the fact that GOD is LOVE.

london is also the most visited city by the travelling maltese, and indeed one of the most popular touristic destination in the world !

while i always thought of myself as a very open minded person, and can accept others point of views, i feel hurt the world has come to this.
how would you feel when confronted by such advert on the famous london buses ?

try to stay within the subject please

RE: Good morning Europe

a quick GOOD MORNING to everybody . . .

now it's into the traffic jams !

RE: SERIOUS QUESTION

Half way through a big old vase of flowers in the style of the classics, in oils, just to see if I can do it with pallette knives instead of brushes.
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very nice, and a challenge with pallette knives. still life in flowers are a favourite of mine. i hope it turns out well (as in how you like it) for you.

i did do some paintings (using oils) in my teen years (land and seascapes). Even some painting by numbers (I was about 10 then) which did turn out rather nice.
Ofcourse after i married it was more painting (and wallpapering) of walls inmost cases. Times change and one changes with it
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