RE: Guess the song

where you watching my video i posted ron???????confused

RE: Guess the song

animal~~def leppard???????????

if i got it right my turn~~~


in the beginning...
back in 1955
man didnt know
bout rock n roll show
and all that jive......

RE: Australian pension for pensioners, versa refugee's

refer to differing definitions above post^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

RE: Australian pension for pensioners, versa refugee's

Asylum Seekers
An asylum seeker is a person who has left their country of origin, has applied for recognition as a refugee in another country, and is awaiting a decision on their application.

refugee
Refugees are forced to leave their countries because they have been persecuted or have a well-founded fear of persecution. Refugees run away. They often do not know where they will end up. Refugees rarely have the chance to make plans for their departure such as packing their personal belongings or saying farewell to loved ones. Many refugees have experienced severe trauma or have been tortured.

Illegal Immigrant
Illegal immigrants are people who enter a country without meeting legal requirements for entry, or residence. On the other hand, refugees often arrive with ‘barest necessities’ and without personal documents. Often governments refuse to issue passports to known political dissidents or imprison them if they apply. Refugees may not be able to obtain the necessary documents when trying to escape and may have no choice but to resort to illegal means of escape. Therefore although the only means of escape for some may be illegal entry and/or the use of false documentation, if the person has a well-founded fear of persecution they should be viewed as a refugee and not labeled an 'illegal immigrant'.

RE: Australian pension for pensioners, versa refugee's

visa over stayers (the real illegal immigrants) number around 20,000 per year

refugees (no they're not illegal immigrants, cos they aint breaking any law cept for maybe the law of the country they've fleeing) number a few thousand every year

and then theres a difference between boat refugees and plane refugees....have a browse at this......

THE Opposition says changes in government policy are responsible for a surge in boat people wanting to become refugees in Australia.

If so, why has there been a much bigger surge in plane people applying for asylum? Any weakness in the surveillance of our coastline does not influence those who fly into the country. The misnamed Pacific solution, scrapped by the Rudd Government, never applied to them. Nor, except for a tiny number, did the now abolished temporary protection visas.

The latest report from the UN High Commissioner for Refugees says asylum applications in Australia increased by 19 per cent last year, from 3980 to 4750. How many came by boat? Actually, 179 or fewer than 4 per cent.

This year the number of boat people is already higher, at 221. But it still is tiny compared with those coming by air. And total refugee flows to Australia are much smaller than those experienced by other countries.

The UNHCR statistics show the Australian increase is part of a global trend. Refugee numbers started rising again in 2007 and last year total asylum applications in industrialised countries went up by 12 per cent. The increase for Australia of 19 per cent was above the average but much smaller than Finland's 181 per cent.

There is no mystery about the reason for the increase. The world is becoming less safe. Richard Towle, UNHCR regional representative for Australia, says: "The places traditionally looked to for refuge such as Pakistan are becoming increasingly unstable and people quite rapidly are having to look elsewhere."

The debate on refugees in Australia is stuck in a time warp. Why are Liberals still talking up the threat of a few boatloads of people wanting to settle in Australia? Presumably because that is how they were conditioned by John Howard and Philip Ruddock in the wake of September 11. Perhaps there is a more venal purpose as well, such as whipping up xenophobia.

Certainly, inconvenient facts are not allowed to stand in the way. Every person who arrived by boat during the boom years a decade ago was checked by ASIO and not one was found to be a security risk, as though terrorists would come in leaky boats anyway. Many fled war in Iraq and Afghanistan; wars in which Australia joined against their persecutors and then turned around and punished the victims.

Ninety per cent of those who came by boat during that period were assessed as refugees, on the basis that they would face the real prospect of death or persecution if they returned home. That compares with an average of fewer than half of those who arrive by air. The first thought of most people who risk their lives on the high seas is not that Australia may be a soft touch but that they they fear for their lives. Some are exploited by people smugglers but some also owe their lives to them.

RE: Whats your favourite saying/quote?

rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

RE: MASS SHOOTING

shoulda known better to have tried to debate with a bunch of people who if you dont agree with them start trying to lambast you, and think your coming to cut off their pen*s..........

roll eyes doh uh oh uh oh

RE: Move Israel to the USA

very true points bebe and dr. bombay (god i love your username)
laugh smitten uh oh

RE: MASS SHOOTING

so i begged to speculate.........anything wrong with that???

at no instance did i say i'm coming to take the guns away from you guys.........

but thats the problem with you guys is that YOUR allowed to speculate how good things will be if everyone is armed
....but i cannot speculate of what MIGHT'VE happened, given the hutu's had've been FULLY ARMED with military weapons
(and i mean ALL, not just some)doh

your just so hypocritical when facing the mirror.....roll eyes

RE: MASS SHOOTING

*RQ needs theatrical fainting emote for zee's dramatic exits every week*violin

RE: Australian pension for pensioners, versa refugee's

am having a nice red at the mo kizz......i just hate ignorance, insecurity and injusticeness, if you havnt already noticed.......
laugh wine

geez i just noticed all the I words...
getting down off my soap-box now!professor

RE: HATE IN THE AGE OF OBAMA

well this is the last bastion of egotisticleness i have in my life!!!!!!!moping laugh grin

RE: What kind of person were you in high-school?

so true....i never went along with the crowds, or groups.....

if any of you ever met me in RL you'd be surprised how quiet and sensitive i am.............grin

RE: HATE IN THE AGE OF OBAMA

you and lerald, you sure you aint brothers?????????confused

RE: HATE IN THE AGE OF OBAMA

bodhi, your so right.............sigh laugh

RE: Move Israel to the USA

yes so do i and i am jewish.......and yes there are some who sincerely believe they are the chosen ones, and think they are superior.........but that happens in all races/faiths????sigh

RE: Move Israel to the USA

well, yes i am jewish, and have found that.......but they were once a 'race'.......i copied and pasted this so sorry if it is wrong............

A Jew (Hebrew: ?????????, Yehudi (sg.); ?????????, Yehudim (pl.); Ladino: ??????, Djudio (sg.); ???????, Djudios (pl.); Yiddish: ????, Yid (sg.); ?????, Yidn (pl.)) is a member of the Jewish people, an ethnoreligious group originating in the Israelites or Hebrews of the Ancient Near East.

The Jewish people and the religion of Judaism are strongly interrelated, and converts to Judaism have been absorbed into the Jewish community throughout the millennia.

In Jewish tradition, Jewish ancestry is traced to the Biblical patriarchs, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the second millennium BCE. The Jews enjoyed two periods of political autonomy in their national homeland, the Land of Israel, during ancient history. The first era spanned from 1350 to 586 BCE, and encompassed the periods of the Judges, the United Monarchy, and the Divided Monarchy of the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, ending with the destruction of the First Temple.

The second era was the period of the Hasmonean Kingdom spanning from 140 to 37 BCE. Since the destruction of the First Temple, the diaspora has been the home of most of the world's Jews. Except in the modern State of Israel, established in 1948, Jews are a minority in every country in which they live and they have frequently experienced persecution throughout history, resulting in a population that fluctuated both in numbers and distribution over the centuries.

According to the Jewish Agency, as of 2007 there were 13.2 million Jews worldwide, 5.4 million of whom lived in Israel, 5.3 million in the United States, and the remainder distributed in communities of varying sizes around the world; this represents 0.2% of the current estimated world population. These numbers include all those who consider themselves Jews whether or not affiliated with a Jewish organization. The total world Jewish population, however, is difficult to measure. In addition to halakhic considerations, there are secular, political, and ancestral identification factors in defining who is a Jew that increase the figure considerably

RE: Move Israel to the USA

wrong tater....the palestinians hate the jews becuase if the israel state, and the al-aqsa mosque is located there

the other is this..........

Most of the problems surrounding Jerusalem can be traced to two areas of dispute. One is the political area that asks Jerusalem to be the capital of both Israel and the nascent Palestine. The other and most contentious problem is the holiness of Temple Mount to both Judaism and Islam.

The Moslem "claim" to Jerusalem is based on what is written in the Koran, which although Jerusalem is not mentioned even once, nevertheless talks (in Sura 17:1) of the "Furthest Mosque": "Glory be unto Allah who did take his servant for a journey at night from the Sacred Mosque to the Furthest Mosque." But is there any foundation to the Moslem argument that this "Furthest Mosque" (Al-Masujidi al-Aqtza) refers to what is today called the Aksa Mosque in Jerusalem?.

In the days of Mohammed, who died in 632 of the Common Era, Jerusalem was a Christian city within the Byzantine Empire. Jerusalem was captured by Khalif Omar only in 638, six years after Mohammed's death. Throughout all this time there were only churches in Jerusalem, and a church stood on the Temple Mount, called the Church of Saint Mary of Justinian, built in the Byzantine architectural style.

The Aksa Mosque was built 20 years after the Dome of the Rock, which was built in 691-692 by Khalif Abd El Malik. In or around 711, or about 80 years after Mohammed died, Malik's son, Abd El-Wahd - who ruled from 705-715 - reconstructed the Christian- Byzantine Church of St. Mary and converted it into a mosque. He left the structure as it was, a typical Byzantine "basilica" structure with a row of pillars on either side of the rectangular "ship" in the center. All he added was an onion-like dome on top of the building to make it look like a mosque. He then named it El-Aksa.

RE: HATE IN THE AGE OF OBAMA

i am not bitter, but i considered you more intellegent than to say something that was just bad taste.........but then again i get surprised alot on here...........uh oh

RE: Who is dating who here in CS?

WELL....SHEDMAN AMD MERCEDES1.....merky and slim.....theres a few others but cant remember them all......confused

RE: MASS SHOOTING

and so imagine if they were ALL used in rwanda then???????????

I'M THINKING NEAR COMPLETE OBLITERATION OF TUTSI'Sroll eyes

RE: HATE IN THE AGE OF OBAMA

well, it just showed me (and all the other posters) his ability to 'dehumanise' himself................ laugh

RE: HATE IN THE AGE OF OBAMA

its one thing to prefer particular hair colors, but tater said he wouldnt date a redhead because it would 'look like a dirty blonde down there, who had her monthly's'................barf

RE: HATE IN THE AGE OF OBAMA

havnt got any eh??????????????laugh

RE: HATE IN THE AGE OF OBAMA

tater....did you or did you not say that in the redhead thread??

RE: HATE IN THE AGE OF OBAMA

thats fine JD, he didnt just state an opinion that he wouldnt date a redhead, but he denegrated redheads, by saying down there wouold be like dating a dirty blonde, with her monthlys....
roll eyes uh oh

100 days in office for obama

i dont insult repubs....i call them bush-lovers, or just repubs

roll eyes grin

RE: MASS SHOOTING

and again one more time for the hard of hearing........if all of the hutu's had military style weapons, there would've been way more deaths.................roll eyes

RE: MASS SHOOTING

twist away..................roll eyes

RE: HATE IN THE AGE OF OBAMA

this from a guy who doesnt date redheads!!!!doh

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