OH THEY'RE GROVELLING NOW COMING UP TO FRIDAYS ELECTION ,,,

PeachMelba I am so sick of it,Its so hard to live, A friend of mine wants me to move to Wexford, and I am seriously thinking of it.... why? coz the crime rate here is rampant. I agree with you , people will get really really p --d off but the only thing is, they are emigrating . thats sad too. I think we are a wonderful country, we have great brains, great local business, esp in the country farmers markets, local businesses and crafts... they havent a chance with all the taxing etc.,

OH THEY'RE GROVELLING NOW COMING UP TO FRIDAYS ELECTION ,,,

PeachMelba I agree, and stop this Cronyism with pals. The posters outside my house, unbelievable !! Labour really expecting us to believe in their promises !! Eamonn Gilmore was on News at 6 onRTE1 and its unbelievable the arrogance about the broken promises, same with Greens when they got in , they bought themselves lovely new houses and put carbon tax on the poor and they could afford Solar powered houses. At this stage I am dissalusioined at them all but the only thing is, not voting is wrong. I am going to give some of the up and coming Independents a chance, they are mostly young, fresh blood. We DO have competent brains in the country, they just tend not to go into politics. Politicians are a particular breed of animal. ireland

OH THEY'RE GROVELLING NOW COMING UP TO FRIDAYS ELECTION ,,,

Pheonix Most people who are voting SFein are in their 20s , 30s, and early 40s . They dont remember the bombings in Ireland, they never went on a march in their lives. I used work in the Dublin housing action Committee and I remember the maze prisoners well, SF have been just as dishonest whilst they came to govt. regarding special Dinners and trips to New York staying in best hotels, a big party for Mary Lou etc., so much for 'Comrades' Maire De Burca where are you ? They simply dont remember the awful atrocities that happened in the north. ireland

OH THEY'RE GROVELLING NOW COMING UP TO FRIDAYS ELECTION ,,,

doh Sorry Pheonix i meant to say the people who follow S.F. wouldnot read or be that politically educated. I have listened to the promises.

OH THEY'RE GROVELLING NOW COMING UP TO FRIDAYS ELECTION ,,,

Has anyone experienced the Avalance of post [Despite my visible No Junk Mail poster] on the door... They are calling and promising me the world.
Labour in particular, do they really think they will get voted in after al l their UTURNS on their promises ? Labours way or..... Fine Gael are quietly confident !!!rolling on the floor laughing Fine Fail continue to rant on about the Mess that they themselves started with Cronyism and backhanders and Bankers being let off and walk into the Sunset. I believe Independents and Sinn Fein stand to do well as people are so fed up and Apathethic. I do hope they come out and vote though. ireland Any thoughts on who will get in ?

RE: What's ur favorite color?

I love sort silky animal print, it isnot tacky, a nice dress made of cheetah print, also Coral, silk coral and azure blue, I wear alot of black and love purple... as for washing.. I wash everything on handwash in the Machine at 30o and put in some sheets of Punch Colour Catcher

RE: Friend requests

I have friends that Ive gotten to know through the Blogs and they mail me and we have things in common. I get alot of freind requests from certain coutries and yes, Glatlol is right, its a way for Scammers to bypass and get 'friendly' so unless youve had a social interaction with the people on the blogs, I'd give them a miss. hope this explains things for you. Enjoy your time on C.S.bouquet Love what ive seen of Maine by the way.

RE: Friend requests

I have friends that Ive gotten to know through the Blogs and they mail me and we have things in common. I get alot of freind requests from certain coutries and yes, Glatlol is right, its a way for Scammers to bypass and get 'friendly' so unless youve had a social interaction with the people on the blogs, I'd give them a miss. hope this explains things for you. Enjoy your time on C.S.bouquet Love what ive seen of Maine by the way.

RE: do every human in this world dislike Irish travelers ???

~i wonder what a lovely girl who says she is a Nurse is doing on C.S. looking for a partner ? Surely somebody so vehemently opposed to most of the views of the overtaxed settled people would prefer to use the very wellknown get to gethers that the pavee people use to introduce prospective Travellers to one another ? Certainly a genuine person who wants to meet a man wouldnt start her career on a Dating site by starting such a divisive Blog, particularly when she is not bothering [or cannot] read the very well meaning and honest replies of the settled people on C.S. and is not even trying to have a reasonable discussion and is on the attack ? It doesnot make sense. Being numerically dyslexic I wouldnot get a job in a bank, and I doubt very much if same lady is a nurse.

RE: do every human in this world dislike Irish travelers ???

I also get the feeling that you are getting some help here, why is that ?

RE: do every human in this world dislike Irish travelers ???

Rosea you have the Police. I am sorry for what happened to you. You never expressed any attempt at sympathy or to say sorry for what happened to me, you are too busy defending .... the difference in your case is, that if you went to the police , and i am assuming you did, you could take that man to court... there were Forensics that could prove he did that... and you could have him charged... had I gone ahead and done that I would have had my house set on fire... fact !!! I would have had to move. I lived in an Estate with many Traveller families, we had nothing but trouble with them , of course we are all liars, everyone on this site is a liar, you still havenot answered my question.... Where is the money coming from for the big cars driven by men and women on the dole ? you choose to ignore it. I am not bothering anymore. TV programmes, you are all the same you willnot face up to the fact that you have a huge anti social problem and that you are quite happy not being part of the larger society... because it suits you financially. You are working as a Nurses Aide so you are in the minority , you have ignored my good background with Travellers and also the fact I am friendly with some nice travellers but in the main, there is a huge problem there. Please answer my question about the Cars, The Weddings, I dont want to hear again about yours, but about the majority, the big hummers, the Communions, the new jeeps bought for Cash ????

RE: do every human in this world dislike Irish travelers ???

p.s. I meant to say that the leader of the gang took out the new pot and proceeded to hit me with it, had I been pushed down the stairs as they tried to do, it is likely I would have hit my head and been killed... this is not an isolated incident, when I worked in a shop part time, I helped Traveller people select dresses for special occasions, my thanks,? a crowd of them came back and robbed me blind in the shop. I had gone against my boss and said 'Its not fair, give them a chance' unfortunately this isnot an isolated incident and this is why security keep a close eye on the Travelling community, there have been a spate of robberies where I live and yes !! they were the ones doing it... Travellers have no respect for us buffers who work or worked for a living, pay our taxes, we are eejits, stupid, 'Townies' and other ceant derrogatory names. Do I hate Travellers ? No , I am friendly with some families who are decent, sadly they are inthe minority. I am also wondering why you came on the site asking for honest opinion and then not taking in that we have experienced bad things and have a right to say it. Whinging and being defensive doesnt do your community any good.

RE: any one want to meet in dub

Jusgt a quick question, is it for much younger members than myself ?

RE: do every human in this world dislike Irish travelers ???

Rosea I willnot continue as I have wasted my time. You asked for comments and asked for truthful comments. I havenot set out to belittle the Travelling community. Your objections to my writing has been very selective and this a thread in all traveller/settled people conversations. Its the pity card taken out... I have already said that I respect the fact that you are hard working, that you pay your taxes, that your children have been taught to respect animals and play with settled people, infact this is very common in most Dublin estates where many decent travellers live. I have not said all travellers. I have said a large section dont use public transport, this is not because they arenot allowed on buses or trains , its because they now all have cars, very expensive weddings etc., and i still havenot got the answer, how can this be done by poor people on the Dole ? I have had alot of experiences in a helping sense with travellers too and i wonder have you read my blogs at all. you choose to be offensive. It is very very bad for your community to blame the treatment of the settled peoples intolerance for the rise and amount of suicides. Are you saying Travellers kill themselves because they are not let in to a dance ?
I am not going to continue because you have you agenda. You refuse to accept cruelty to animals within Pavee Too much drinking and problems with women not bein allowe finish school. I spent alot of time here being honest and you have come back and insult me by sayint you are kind to your horses and dogs..... this is joke, or I am a liar.

RE: do every human in this world dislike Irish travelers ???

So Rosea are you saying that the starving emaciated Dogs are all a lie made up against travellers ? That I am lying about my experience and that of people in the Animal welfare section ? you can say w hat about the settled community. This blog is about Travellers and set up by you. I dont think Greyhound breeding is a nice business to be in. The greyhounds are sold to Spain after they become of no good and treated terribly, starved, in the heat, no shelter and abused. There are special rescue centres for Whippets and Greyhounds. I know you are probably an exception and your family but in the main animals are not fed properly or cared for in your community... I am sorry but check out the Charities that have to go and see the take the animals..... I have done so.

RE: do every human in this world dislike Irish travelers ???

Hi Rosea, I am sad that this blog has led to nothing.... I thought that by giving you a truthful account [as people did ] and by not being rude [i certainly didnot mean to be and wouldnt be rude to you as it took guts to come on here and do a blog....] I thought that you would listen... really take in what was being said. but like all Traveller discussions, it has turned into your becoming defensive. There is reason why travellers are banned from hotels and pubs.... that reason is because of past experience, because of violence after drink. 2. I have seen many traveller weddings with Hummer Cars and huge Dresses, the weddings and communions costing thousands of pounds, it seems to be a one up manship, this was not caused by the settled community. I believe you about your family but if you hand down dresses , as a traveller, you are in the minority. Y ou didnot answer my question regarding the amount of travellers son the Dole who are driving 4 x 4 Cars around ? none are taking the bus. I also think that spending the money on a house, would be preferable to spending thousands on Wedding dresses. But thats your culture and I would respect that, just dont moan about it. What is spent on these occasions would more than pay a good deposit on a house, I am aware of the high percent of Suicides within the Travelling community, this is very very sad. Again drink does play a part and as ive already said, being of pure blood, you are prone to certain illnesses which is v sad, but also Alcohol drives your men mad, and ends in violence and sometimes suicide. The settled community cannot be blamed , there is alot of Depression and suicide within the settled community. so this poor old Buffer cant afford a car, I paid tax [like you ] all my life, I cant afford a brand new car as it would need tax and insurance, I pay my waste charges and my rent. This is something most Travellers dont. I know you think I am being predjudiced but I know the situation here, as does that man here from Tipperary he is living there, you must accept that our experience is real too and that we are not out to hurt you. I wish you the very best. You asked for the truth. I dont believe that most people on here, myself included intended to hurt you , you asked for the truth but then try to defend the undefendable. FACT the travelling community need to look within their society to see why things have got to the stage where there is so much crime [against people living alone] bucking the system and living off the state. Until you own your problems and stop dumping them on those very people whose tax supports the lifestyle of all those travellers collecting Dole and driving cars paid for by cash [I can back this up ] and drinking to excess and living by night and keeping neighbours awake and having feuds and mistreating t heir Dogs and horses. you will have discriminatin. Take care.

RE: do every human in this world dislike Irish travelers ???

Rosea I am not trying to give you a hard time...I appreciate the figures you give... but just one question, The amount of Travellers on the Dole is very very high. Can you tell me why it is now a rarity to see a Traveller family get a bus, or a Luas or a train ? How they all drive Cars,Vans that are up to date and in good order ? How many buy Rolex watches for investment purposes.How they can afford Communion and confirmation and weddings costing thousands and thousands ? it doesnot add up.
with regard to religion, my great Aunt was responsible for the getting Knock [Site in Co Mayo] going, and she gave most of her money away to get it going, she started the Laysisters who look after the sick and was knighted by Pope John Paul 2. He had intended to make her a Saint.
I can attest to the fact that Travellers in Ireland have a tremendious faith in God and Mary the mother of Jesus and go to Knock regularly.

RE: do every human in this world dislike Irish travelers ???

Reb56 Thats interesting about your parents. Nice name, Scottish.

RE: do every human in this world dislike Irish travelers ???

Tinker was never a bad word against Travellers, Tinkers were Travellers int he 40s and beyond who fixed Tin Buckets and other items by trade, this trade is unfortunately dying out, there is one travelling man on the Northside who still makes fantastic Tin mugs and other things, he is one of a dying breed but it is not an insulting name for Travellers. The words Buffer or Townie however is insulting towards settled people just as knacker is insulting to travellers . The word Itinerant, simply means a nomad. Someone with no fixed abode.

RE: do every human in this world dislike Irish travelers ???

Merriweather You have to realise that our Time difference is great I spend alot of late nights trying to answer emails and it is now near my dinner time here.... so you understand if I dont reply it is not because i am ignoring you.. it is because of the time differences. I hope you have a good sleep.

RE: do every human in this world dislike Irish travelers ???

Merriweather. I dont have children, I have a good relationship with travellers that I meet, I take people on face Value and but what I have written is what I have experienced as somebody working in animal rights and also somebody who worked with homeless and trying to get people housed. I would have more dealings than most. I lived with Travellers [settled ] as neighbours too. I dont have any bias and wouldnt turn anyone against any section of society. I have already mailed the Author of the Blog as i admire her for coming on. I hope this answeres your question but let me know if you need anymore help. x

RE: do every human in this world dislike Irish travelers ???

Rosea Thanks for the Blog again... I just want to add. that when I was growing up in Ireland, in the 50s. My Grandma reared me. We had an elderly lady living in a Caravan [up Dublin Mountains] she would call and we would make her strong Tea and Sandwiches and she would tell my grandmother all about her family, the grandkids and their health. She had a daughter, she was a great poet, agead of her time, she would call to me and would sit and tell me her problems.... There was no fear of being robbed, we had good relations and we would give clothing. Going back further, My grandmothers family were big farmers from Mayo, way back... they would look forward to the Travellers or 'Tinkers' coming and they would hire them to work and fix Buckets and look after horses. The Travellers were decent, honest, fun loving and both parties had respect for one another. They would work on the land or doing odd jobs and never a bother...I am wondering, what has happened in the intervening years to cause such a rift ? Again, the Travellers must realise that some of their Traditions are no longer tenable, like Bare knuckle fighting,Sulky racing on main roads,Dog fighting, Cruelty to animals, they can well afford Vets and Flea and worm treatments and can afford to neuter their Dogs, not use them to eat Rats !!! They have to learn respect and not feel superior to the settled people, not feel that everyone is a prospective person to be conned and robbed. A small portion of Travellers live in dire poverty w hilst the other main part live in luxury with New Cars [bought for with cash] and dont seem to be short of money.... so it is only natural that when you want to be treated equally, you have to step up to the mark and pay taxes, show respect for public property and keep the noise down at night and not have Fueds and fights within earshot of settled people. We both need to make an effort. Thanks again Rosia for blogging on C.S. it cannot have been easy.

RE: do every human in this world dislike Irish travelers ???

Yes Pavee point were appointed to take in the Roma population which doesnot neccessarily say that travellers and Roma population have a great love for each other. I will leave it at that. Their tradition of begging is the same although very few travellers nowadays infact none, need to beg for money, nor do they call to the door for clothing either, they dont need that.

RE: do every human in this world dislike Irish travelers ???

Yes Pavee and hence Pavee Point, the centre against Discrimination, headed up by Martin Collins, himself a great animal lover and spokesperson for the Traveller population. The language Ceant, is a type of Irish, there is a great law amongst Travelling people, that is the Secrecy, they will never give away one another. They have great respect for Mother and Father and have many wonderful traditions. It has been thought they derived from the main Tribes, Martin, Joyce, Mongan, McDonagh, Cash, Ward,Collins,
Rosemarie McDonagh is a beautiful woman and represented the travelling community recently on RTE. O'Brien is another well known family, many are from Wexford. I have helped Travellers with writing, have helped them get housing and my observations regarding travellers have been honest and I hope fair. I would like to hear from Rosa herself but She might be working hard Nursing. I have encountered and helped a few traveller women who came across great discrimination when they worked for Nuns as Nurses Aides. This is the other side of the Coin.

RE: do every human in this world dislike Irish travelers ???

Molly Great Blog, I did mention some of the issues already that you raised. I find the fueds very frightening and have experienced same. I also find the barbaric Dog fighting horrific, having said that, some settled people are involved with that also. Sulky races, Horses left to die on the Green, Litter and the County councils letting Travellers and settled travellers away with things that ordinary people wouldnot has caused derision. I think that we both have to talk. To try and understand. However, that doesnot suit many travellers as, despite their protestations,and whinging, they have no intention of paying taxes, they by everything by Cash, live an expensive lifestyle although on the Dole, think Weddings, Communions , and Cars bought for Cash,no insurance for Cars, Travellers need to realise, that to live in Ireland and be treated as equal, let into pubs etc., they will have to have more respect for the settled population which is in the majority and supports their lifestyle economically. There is alot of predjudice on behalf of the Travellers toward settled people too... so we both need to learn to respect each other. Travellers cant have it both ways, they either pay taxes and start looking after their animals properly, have respect for the law, then there will be more respect for their Culture.

RE: Russia has better weapons than USA?

All it takes is one massive Nuclear strike to cause mayhem, death, slow death and a War that will wipe us all out. Is Vladimar or Obama that stupid ? Is oil that scarce ?

RE: Get off with on the Forum?

MadDog Oh ! and Goldengusher sounds like a Disinfectant/House cleaner
and we already have A Dettol here , one is enough, yay

RE: Get off with on the Forum?

MadDog rolling on the floor laughing blushing blushing
You will never know...... I had that sent and I said 'Sh-t'blushing At my age it could be taken for inontinence !!! I'm saying it before you do MAdDog.

RE: Get off with on the Forum?

Mockin thanks for good wishes, Sir Larry might come to visit me with a bundle of 'durty books 'for me to read.... Alas my mind is too full of scalpels and George Clooney lookalike surgeons, all clamouring to get on top of my...... Hernia, Blood n Guts n Scalpels n Intestine. You won't see that on X Hamster !!!doh

RE: hmmm...

PRDreaming I am from the era when a gentleman always pays for the Dinner and you come along having paid for perhaps a lovely new Dress and bag to look great for him... old fashioned ? perhaps, the Bill and tipping would be totally up to the man. Later on down the line, I would pay for Cinema or buy him a nice Shirt, maybe watch, not mean !! but I think the man should pick up the tab for Dinner [evening ] Lunch is a different thing... just old fashioned manners. lips

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