Yes, everything has a reason if we search for it. Even in Brownian motion, a suspended particle in a fluid or gas starts to move in the direction of the resultant force on it which is exerted by the other particles that bombard it. Then that particle bombards another. There is no particle which should be responsible for its own direction.
Determinism
Everything is determined, the beginning as well as the end, by forces over which we have no control. It is determined for the insect as well as the star. Human beings, vegetables, or cosmic dust, we all dance to a mysterious tune, intoned in the distance by an invisible piper. - Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
Determinism is the philosophical theory that every event, including human cognition and behavior, decision and action, is determined by an unbroken chain of prior occurrences. Determinists generally believe in only one possible future.
So, according to Einstein we should not repent for our bad deeds and should not be proud of our good deeds because we are like particles in a Brownian motion which don't have responsible for its own direction.
Sophocles, the famous Greek dramatist reminds us by his drama “Oedipus the king” (the origin of the name of Oedipus complex) that although fate can’t be changed we have to suffer for our every inevitable mistake like the king Oedipus who punished himself by blinding his eyes by his own hands. (He killed his father and married his mother by mistake. But predictors have predicted it before his birth).
So friends I like to discuss these problems with you
1. Are we like particles that can not think? (Actually I am the one who gave this example to explain Einstein’s philosophy, thinking on physics)
2. Is Einstein philosophy (determinism ) correct or wrong?
3. Can we change destiny?
4. If destiny can not be changed why do people need predictors?
5. What did Sophocles want to tell by his famous drama “Oedipus the king”? (I think he warned us not to predict because predictions become our wish and then there is a more possibility for happening it)
Aug 9, 2009 12:49 AM CST Einstein, Sophocles, Destiny and Predictions
emannigolJossakin Pirkanmaalla, Southern Finland Finland356 Posts
emannigolJossakin Pirkanmaalla, Southern Finland Finland356 posts
kindheart74: So, according to Einstein we should not repent for our bad deeds and should not be proud of our good deeds because we are like particles in a Brownian motion which don't have responsible for its own direction.
Using determinism and causality that way would be fallacious with moral or ethical problems.
kindheart74: 1. Are we like particles that can not think? (Actually I am the one who gave this example to explain Einstein’s philosophy, thinking on physics)
No. However our thoughts aren't free from causality. Previous chain of events has caused us to think how we think.
kindheart74: 2. Is Einstein philosophy (determinism ) correct or wrong?
Seems to be correct. However, it shouldn't be used like previously mentioned.
kindheart74: 3. Can we change destiny?
Yes and no, depending on how we define destiny. Destiny is caused by previous events; including our acts. Our acts have also been caused by previous events.
kindheart74: 4. If destiny can not be changed why do people need predictors?
Prediction might be in the chain of events causing our destiny.
kindheart74: 5. What did Sophocles want to tell by his famous drama “Oedipus the king”? (I think he warned us not to predict because predictions become our wish and then there is a more possibility for happening it)
To me it sounds like, what is done can not be undone. So it's better to think before acting, because our acts are causing our destiny.
No. However our thoughts aren't free from causality. Previous chain of events has caused us to think how we think.
Seems to be correct. However, it shouldn't be used like previously mentioned.
Yes and no, depending on how we define destiny. Destiny is caused by previous events; including our acts. Our acts have also been caused by previous events.
Prediction might be in the chain of events causing our destiny.
To me it sounds like, what is done can not be undone. So it's better to think before acting, because our acts are causing our destiny.
we can carefully experiment with out acts as long as we are sensitive to others can't we????
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Determinism
Everything is determined, the beginning as well as the end, by forces over which we have no control. It is determined for the insect as well as the star. Human beings, vegetables, or cosmic dust, we all dance to a mysterious tune, intoned in the distance by an invisible piper. - Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
Determinism is the philosophical theory that every event, including human cognition and behavior, decision and action, is determined by an unbroken chain of prior occurrences. Determinists generally believe in only one possible future.
So, according to Einstein we should not repent for our bad deeds and should not be proud of our good deeds because we are like particles in a Brownian motion which don't have responsible for its own direction.
Sophocles, the famous Greek dramatist reminds us by his drama “Oedipus the king” (the origin of the name of Oedipus complex) that although fate can’t be changed we have to suffer for our every inevitable mistake like the king Oedipus who punished himself by blinding his eyes by his own hands. (He killed his father and married his mother by mistake. But predictors have predicted it before his birth).
So friends I like to discuss these problems with you
1. Are we like particles that can not think? (Actually I am the one who gave this example to explain Einstein’s philosophy, thinking on physics)
2. Is Einstein philosophy (determinism ) correct or wrong?
3. Can we change destiny?
4. If destiny can not be changed why do people need predictors?
5. What did Sophocles want to tell by his famous drama “Oedipus the king”? (I think he warned us not to predict because predictions become our wish and then there is a more possibility for happening it)