Ok, Dali did OK, let's try Nietzsche (15)

OK, I tried this almost forever ago on the forums when there were no separations (that's starting to seem a bit odd now that i think of it) and it flopped horribly. I will give it another go.

"Men have on the whole spoken of love with such emphasis and so idolized it because they have had little of it and have never been allowed to eat their fill of this food: thus it became for them 'food of the gods'. Let a poet depict a utopia in which there obtains universal love, he will certainly have to describe a painful and ludicrous state of affairs the like of which the earth has never yet seen - everyone worshipped, encumbered and desired, not by one lover, as happens now, but by thousands, indeed by everyone else, as the result of an uncontrollable drive which would then be as greatly execrated and cursed as selfishness had been in former times; and the poets in that state of things - provided that they were left alone long enough to write - would dream of nothing but the happy, loveless past, of divine selfishness, of how it was once possible to be alone, undisturbed, unloved, hated, despised on earth, and whatever else may characterize the utter baseness of the dear animal world in which we live."

What's it mean, is he right, tell me how his sister probably wrote it, blurt out whatever suits your fancy, or as always ... feel free to hijack my thread

he did write it in his thesis daybreak(s) I think the theme is men feel for the most part unloved and un cherished and have from that standpoint taken the idea of love to the extreem, where it unto itslef becomes idolized.

"he did write it in his thesis ... " I can only assume you're referring to my saying "tell me his sister likely wrote it" remark.

I was just referring to the speculations that his sister had written some of his later stuff, and had possibly even written most of his works.

As for your take, men feel, or perhaps Nietzsche felt?

Food for thought, what a 10 year old with a dictionary at his disposal came up with - "Be careful what you wish for?"

you got that right bout wishes. Once I wished my manhood would touch the ground! There was a blinding flash of light and when I awoke my legs were gone.

Sounds more like we're back to Dali on that one

And that was actually my son who said that, not I

Along similar lines, I have often thought:

We are consumed by the knowledge that we will someday die. Distressed by this, we go to rediculus measures to attempt to console ourselves. Such as creating god and various religions to convince ourselves that we will live on forever, or at least that our lives have some "meaning".

Imagine if we were immortals. Knowing nothing but life. Surely then we would attempt to convince ourseleves that we might someday die in order to relieve ourselves of the monotany of existance. Perhaps then various tax free sects would form on the basis of consoling the devoded that some day life will end.

OK, against my better judgement, I'll dabble in religion

Some have genuine faith. Some don't. Some others might think that religion wasn't created as a form of self justification but as a means to instill fear on the masses to sway behaviour due to a final judgement based on their actions. A moral compass if you will.

As for death, I wish I could recall where I saw it on the forums, not sure if it was a quote from someone famous, or just something on CS said, I'd love to give credit where it's due. The sentiment they relayed was (paraphrasing) I am not afraid of death, I just don't want to die yet.

It was a woody allen quote:

"I am not afraid of death I just dont want to be there when it happens"

Nope, that wasn't it

The sentiment is completely different, that's humour