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Apr 19, 2014 4:44 AM CST noah the film
danieljosh
danieljoshdanieljoshtelford, West Midlands, England UK21 Threads 1 Polls 1,364 Posts
jac379: It took me a long time to realise the lovely, fluffy tale of Noah's Ark that I was taught as a child, is actually a tale of global genocide by the Christian god.

That makes me a bit sick in my mouth just thinking about it.



never thought of it that way your right its sickening
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Apr 19, 2014 1:18 PM CST noah the film
Condor009
Condor009Condor009Victoria, British Columbia Canada200 Posts
jac379: It took me a long time to realise the lovely, fluffy tale of Noah's Ark that I was taught as a child, is actually a tale of global genocide by the Christian god.

That makes me a bit sick in my mouth just thinking about it.


If I remember correctly, the Sumerian Creation Epic along with the original flood is called The Enuma elish, there are many translations in the last 60 some years, from Kramer to current linguistic experts and historians. The original Noah was simply called 'a man of Shuruppak", the 7th ancient city founded by the Gods,(Nefilim) when they 'from Heaven desended'. It was not any sort of 'Christian God' that decided to wipe out Humankind. After going through nearly a dozen other names thet this particular Deity was known by, it finally names him as "Enlil" He had always hated the creation of humans but was not above using them when it suited him as after the deluge, survivors were allowed to live and re-settle what is now Iraq; ancient Mesopotamia, aka Sumer. It was Enlil that persuaded the Council of Gods to 'destroy all human flesh upon the earth. The actual name of the original Noah was Ziusudra in Sumerian,(Utnapishtim in Akkadian). It is he that Gilgamesh went in search of for everlasting Life/ Immortality. Ziusudra was taken to live forever with the Gods.
Found my copy, so I shall quote a passage: "Man of Shuruppak, son of Ubar-Tutu:
Tear down the house, build a ship!
Give up possessions, seek thou life!
Foreswear belongings, keep soul alive!
Aboard ship take thou the seeds of all living things;
That ship thou shalt build-
her dimensions shall be to measure."
There should be several translations on line, especially rom the Encyclopaedia Brittanica, the ancient history sections from Cambridge and Oxford and others.
You will notice the command that he take "the seeds of all living things"...seeds has always been the important word and concept throughout most of the translations by linguists...absolutely nothing about taking live animals or fruit trees, etc. The Old Testament came much later and was drastically changed from the original. or myself and many scholars, the OT version is a very badly written made-up fake for a select group of roaming outcasts then living somewhere between ancient Babylon and Persia.wine
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Apr 19, 2014 8:06 PM CST noah the film
danieljosh
danieljoshdanieljoshtelford, West Midlands, England UK21 Threads 1 Polls 1,364 Posts
Condor009: If I remember correctly, the Sumerian Creation Epic along with the original flood is called The Enuma elish, there are many translations in the last 60 some years, from Kramer to current linguistic experts and historians. The original Noah was simply called 'a man of Shuruppak", the 7th ancient city founded by the Gods,(Nefilim) when they 'from Heaven desended'. It was not any sort of 'Christian God' that decided to wipe out Humankind. After going through nearly a dozen other names thet this particular Deity was known by, it finally names him as "Enlil" He had always hated the creation of humans but was not above using them when it suited him as after the deluge, survivors were allowed to live and re-settle what is now Iraq; ancient Mesopotamia, aka Sumer. It was Enlil that persuaded the Council of Gods to 'destroy all human flesh upon the earth. The actual name of the original Noah was Ziusudra in Sumerian,(Utnapishtim in Akkadian). It is he that Gilgamesh went in search of for everlasting Life/ Immortality. Ziusudra was taken to live forever with the Gods.
Found my copy, so I shall quote a passage: "Man of Shuruppak, son of Ubar-Tutu:
Tear down the house, build a ship!
Give up possessions, seek thou life!
Foreswear belongings, keep soul alive!
Aboard ship take thou the seeds of all living things;
That ship thou shalt build-
her dimensions shall be to measure."
There should be several translations on line, especially rom the Encyclopaedia Brittanica, the ancient history sections from Cambridge and Oxford and others.
You will notice the command that he take "the seeds of all living things"...seeds has always been the important word and concept throughout most of the translations by linguists...absolutely nothing about taking live animals or fruit trees, etc. The Old Testament came much later and was drastically changed from the original. or myself and many scholars, the OT version is a very badly written made-up fake for a select group of roaming outcasts then living somewhere between ancient Babylon and Persia.



woahh to deep for me time to call it a day I think
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