Hi to all , just wondering what & how paople are thinking about this current debat & issue of climate change. Boy are we headed for disaster & a wall of problems. A point of no return.
It's ok...Mother Nature will just hit the reset button and in a few million years or so...do it all again...perhaps not this lifetime for us..but one just like it in future generations....
May I ask have you just seen 'An Inconvenient Truth'? the doco by Al Gore?
..there is a thread posted in the international site that may interest you as well...it is in my profile under view my threads...your contributions of thoughts and suggestions would be appreciated....
Feb 5, 2007 1:29 PM CST Global Warming any Concern ?
clegganMargaret River, Western Australia Australia2 Posts
clegganMargaret River, Western Australia Australia2 posts
Hey Kearoot
You are so right, but we have known this for such a long time and the powers that be in the U.S., China and India are all hiding behind their size, money and power and doing NOTHING!!!! This is a world wide problem and we all need to make it a priority, whether Bush wants us to or not.
It is so frustrating to know there are alternative fuels out there and big business has crushed them because of "Oil mongers" around the world. Imagine if these technologies had been actively persued in the seventies, maybe Iraq wouldn't be happening now?
Anyway, we need to start a grass roots "Green Movement" I think it is the only way to make the governments of the world realize we are willing to make the sacrifices that will make this planet last a little longer.
All due respect to those 'into' the man made global warming idea, but I'm not too taken by it. You can see over many millenia that Earth has had many vast changes in its' environment and land masses. The gasses from the massive volcanic fields millions of years ago did way more damage than what is talked about today from emissions. Antarctica used to be lush forest not too long ago, the Sahara was a vast ocean and Europe no more than mere atolls and the list goes on - oxygen content during the many time periods was also up to 30 or 50% more (or less at certain times) than today. Climate change is a rotation the Earth goes through. I'm not saying the gases humans 'produce' are a non-existent factor - I agree cleaner emissions are a must and I would love to see hydrogen fuel cell, electric and even gas powered vehicles on every street and in the air and oceans, but the normal environmental changes and shifts in Earth's cycles would have happened regardless. We may find that indeed in 100, or even only 50 years, the Poles may be far smaller and that there is aven greenery, grass plains perhaps, instead of the glaciers that made the poles so vast. Its the very foundation of the reason why species die, evolve or new ones appear. Its littered throughout the planet's history. thanks for the opportunity -
Carbon dioxide measured from core samples in both Antarctica and The Arctic, have shown that over 650,000 years where naturally occurring Ice Ages, (and there have been 10 according to scientific measurements,) and fluctuations in temperatures can be graphed through oxygen molecules trapped within the ice.
These Carbon Dioxide levels have been graphed at both peaks and lows of global cycles over this periodof 650,000 years and over the past thirty years the carbon dioxide levels measurements in the Pacific Ocean, of the Earth's atmosphere show that they have tripled in that time period.
Glacial and Polar ice are unadulterated and pure in their content and are used as very clear indicatoes of the Earth's "health' over a lonh period of the Earths history.
Carbon dioxide is attributed to the heating of the oceans temperatures over the past fifty years, and the occurance of record numbers of typhoons in japen, and the South eastern parts of Soouth America, which had bever had hurricanes in recorded history.
Carbon dioxide is a byproduct of fuel emissions and also coal burning power stations, and other areas where coal is used as an energy source.
With the decreased vegetation over the globe, through land clearing, rising temperatures and salinity, the Earths 'natural lungs' cannot convert the carbon dioxide in the atmospere in a sustainable manner.
This is not rocket science, it is common sense, man has created many unnatural occurances in the Earth's biosystem, since the Industrial Revolution, and it has risen expidentially in the last thirty years.
All of this nformation is checkable, and is public knowledge for those who care to look for it.
Surprising to see that some people actually agree with me, I get slugged by greenpeace and media sensationalised claptrap everytime I bring it up, usually...
I totally agree with your points of views Jesse. All is inter-linked with the environment, how elementary can the picture be, back in the 70's the world was already facing major draughts esp: in Africa,apart with the over population problems. Wait until the world wide water shortages arrive, we haven't even seen the worst yet, I petty the folks who don't think ahead , before deciding to have kids, in this day & age. As they (kids)are the ones who will inherit this delhema. back then the global situation, had only 7% arable land (sustanable) to feed everyone on the planet -good luck to us city dewelers.
I hear what ur saying Jess, but no need to get defensive. Ignorance indeed. Of course the trees are not as abundunt etc, everyone, as you said, knows that, but what I'm saying is it isn't as big of a changable variation we are lead to beleive, it would happen regardless, slower perhaps without us, but if it isn't us, it would be other factors. The world, its climate and inhabitants won't stop changing if we suddenly all revert to clean fuels and recycling.
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current debat & issue of climate change. Boy are we headed for disaster & a wall of problems. A point of no return.